Attn: SDS, Your Days Are Numbered. Tick Tock, Tick Tock
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@tonythetiger2k16 said in Attn: SDS, Your Days Are Numbered. Tick Tock, Tick Tock:
EA MVP Baseball 2005 as the BEST baseball game ever released up until 2005. The game play was awesome & they were the 1st to do a Stadium Creator which SDS couldn't do until 2021. Only thing that was bad with EA MVP 2005 was the graphics if you compare to how software has advanced thru the years to what it is now today. As well with EA knowing the are entering Baseball again without having a Monopoly on it like SDS has had for the last several years. I am pretty sure they will NOT make it "pay-to-win" because at the end of the day they need to poach MLBTS players if they are to be successful at all.
Let me know how well that game played online. It's basically impossible to compare games from that era to modern games due to networking and server complications.
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While MVP was pretty good in 2004 or so, I do not expect anything from EA other than annoying pay-to-win microtransactions and a horrible online gameplay environment. They have definately regressed over the past decade or so....Horrible customer service, bug infested software, and a library of full of trash games.
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EA now is NOT EA from 2005.
Zero confidence.
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While it’s good that there could be some real competition, slow your role a little bit as we don’t know anything about EA’s baseball game will be like. It very well could end like all of their other sports’ games which I wouldn’t play even if I got the games for free.
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Even if EA stains the sheets with it, it's still good for competition and will force devs to reevaluate their stance and attempt to make improvements. There will be those that will defect to EA's new game because it'll be shiny and new. That means less revenue for SDS and if they want it back, they'll have to compete to get it back. IF, big, gigantic, enormous if, EA's game is magically 'good', even more effort to improve this copy/paste from the last 4 or 5 years. Either way, it's a long way off and might not even come to fruition. At the same time, MLBTS needs a kick in the pants to improve the experience. Maybe this is it; maybe it isn't. I play RBI, Super Mega and The Show. I like baseball more than I like the developers.
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@konphlikt_psn said in Attn: SDS, Your Days Are Numbered. Tick Tock, Tick Tock:
Even if EA stains the sheets with it, it's still good for competition and will force devs to reevaluate their stance and attempt to make improvements. There will be those that will defect to EA's new game because it'll be shiny and new. That means less revenue for SDS and if they want it back, they'll have to compete to get it back. IF, big, gigantic, enormous if, EA's game is magically 'good', even more effort to improve this copy/paste from the last 4 or 5 years. Either way, it's a long way off and might not even come to fruition. At the same time, MLBTS needs a kick in the pants to improve the experience. Maybe this is it; maybe it isn't. I play RBI, Super Mega and The Show. I like baseball more than I like the developers.
That is EXACTLY what I said in very few words within my OP. SDS has 4 years to do this to secure their customer base & not lose too many over to EA in 2024.
And for the record. I do NOT Hate MLBTS. There are just way more things within & about MLBTS that I do NOT like or enjoy then the things within & about that I do enjoy. Just from what I remember with when I played with MVP 2005, it was exactly the opposite with having more things I like about & within it in contrast to what I didn't like.
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@hikes83_psn said in Attn: SDS, Your Days Are Numbered. Tick Tock, Tick Tock:
Hellllllll no unless this franchise goes to the crapper. EA is notoriously for bad gameplay AND being crooks
Agreed, a little competition doesn't hurt but SDS will be fine IMO.
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@tonythetiger2k16 said in Attn: SDS, Your Days Are Numbered. Tick Tock, Tick Tock:
Just finished seeing a video on YouTube & OMG, OMG & OMG!!! Oh, did I forget to say OMFG?
But just heard & seen the news I have been hoping & praying for so many years now.
SDS, Your days are numbered. Start the count down because if you guys (the developers) does NOT improve this game to what most in here are wanting it to be. Then you will lose half & maybe even more then half of your customer base. You have 4 years to do this, because .......
EA is relaunching MVP Baseball in 2024.
For all you in here reading this. go see the video for yourselves.EA.... no thanks. Imagine how bad there version of DD will be
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Even if EA releases a baseball game in 2024, they still need to secure the league and players rights.
Right now that is SDS who has those rights.
Doubtful MLB and the MLBPA allow two seperate companies to obtain those rights.
(Just like how Topps is losing the rights for their sports cards to Fanatics)
So that leaves two options:
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EA out bids SDS and gets the rights therefore being the ONLY company allowed to produce a licensed product. Not only does that give EA to much power into making the game pay to play; but it also keeps SDS from making a licensed game. Thus you still have a company that has a monopoly on an MLB game.
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EA doesn't get the player rights and still goes through making the game. But it's all generic players and teams. Where the only way to make real MLB teams and players is by editing the rosters. I don't care what you say about SDS, die hard MLB fans won't play a game that isn't licensed.
So, you're going to end up with a company, that has a proven track record of making their games 'pay to play' driving a company that doesn't have that business model out of business or a second game that is non licensed.
Either way, I still see SDS standing tall in 2024
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@dirty-shawnchez_psn said in Attn: SDS, Your Days Are Numbered. Tick Tock, Tick Tock:
Even if EA releases a baseball game in 2024, they still need to secure the league and players rights.
Right now that is SDS who has those rights.
Doubtful MLB and the MLBPA allow two seperate companies to obtain those rights.
(Just like how Topps is losing the rights for their sports cards to Fanatics)
So that leaves two options:
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EA out bids SDS and gets the rights therefore being the ONLY company allowed to produce a licensed product. Not only does that give EA to much power into making the game pay to play; but it also keeps SDS from making a licensed game. Thus you still have a company that has a monopoly on an MLB game.
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EA doesn't get the player rights and still goes through making the game. But it's all generic players and teams. Where the only way to make real MLB teams and players is by editing the rosters. I don't care what you say about SDS, die hard MLB fans won't play a game that isn't licensed.
So, you're going to end up with a company, that has a proven track record of making their games 'pay to play' driving a company that doesn't have that business model out of business or a second game that is non licensed.
Either way, I still see SDS standing tall in 2024
From my understanding. SDS does NOT have EXCLUSIVE Rights with MLB. They purchased the License for X-amount of years. Any other Game Label can also purchase the License as well as long as MLB feels they are credible enough.. However NO ONE else has been willing or wanting to pay that huge cost to get them MLB Licensing & risk their game NOT being able to turn a profit upon being released. This is how & why SDS has been the ONLY MLB Baseball Sim Game for the last several years.
As well the MLB Licensing includes & covers ALL active players. It's with the retired players EA will now need to seek out individually & get the Rights from them to use their name & likeness within the game. Also with which cards. Surely it will NOT be Topps because Topps is under Contract with MLBTS. However EA can easily strike a deal with Fleer, Upper Deck or Donruss to use their cards for retired players.
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Doesn't whatever company makes RBI Baseball also have player rights? I've never played it, but the latest version has Tim Anderson on the cover so I would assume that they're allowed to use all the other current players as well.
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Yeah I think once this game from EA drops and we play it we will realize how good SDS has made the game. But thats just me.
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@whitejw98_psn said in Attn: SDS, Your Days Are Numbered. Tick Tock, Tick Tock:
Doesn't whatever company makes RBI Baseball also have player rights? I've never played it, but the latest version has Tim Anderson on the cover so I would assume that they're allowed to use all the other current players as well.
RBI Baseball is MLB Licensed. But that s purely an ARCADE style play video game. EXTREMELY LIMITED with it's modes & game play. MLBTS, EA MVP & 2K Baseball are each Simulators & way more advanced with more features & capabilities. Very Very BIG DIFFERENCE with what RBI Baseball is.
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This shouldn't be about whether one moves on from SDS or not but rather the fact the competition should force SDS into better gameplay.
The EA product doesn't even need to be good to force SDS's hand.
Competition is exactly what's missing from other sports games and I welcome EA's entry back into this space. Now... where are those competitors for madden and nhl? Lol
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EA... Where sports games go to die.
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@tonythetiger2k16 said in Attn: SDS, Your Days Are Numbered. Tick Tock, Tick Tock:
Just finished seeing a video on YouTube & OMG, OMG & OMG!!! Oh, did I forget to say OMFG?
But just heard & seen the news I have been hoping & praying for so many years now.
SDS, Your days are numbered. Start the count down because if you guys (the developers) does NOT improve this game to what most in here are wanting it to be. Then you will lose half & maybe even more then half of your customer base. You have 4 years to do this, because .......
EA is relaunching MVP Baseball in 2024.
For all you in here reading this. go see the video for yourselves.Please go to that franchise so we don’t have to hear your incessant complaints day in and day out.
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“I disagree, it's a very good game but I think Donkey Kong is the best game ever”
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@killerpresence4 said in Attn: SDS, Your Days Are Numbered. Tick Tock, Tick Tock:
@tonythetiger2k16 said in Attn: SDS, Your Days Are Numbered. Tick Tock, Tick Tock:
Please go to that franchise so we don’t have to hear your incessant complaints day in and day out.
I will still be coming in here just to rub it in how much better it is. So deal with it. LMAO
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@tonythetiger2k16 said in Attn: SDS, Your Days Are Numbered. Tick Tock, Tick Tock:
@dirty-shawnchez_psn said in Attn: SDS, Your Days Are Numbered. Tick Tock, Tick Tock:
Even if EA releases a baseball game in 2024, they still need to secure the league and players rights.
Right now that is SDS who has those rights.
Doubtful MLB and the MLBPA allow two seperate companies to obtain those rights.
(Just like how Topps is losing the rights for their sports cards to Fanatics)
So that leaves two options:
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EA out bids SDS and gets the rights therefore being the ONLY company allowed to produce a licensed product. Not only does that give EA to much power into making the game pay to play; but it also keeps SDS from making a licensed game. Thus you still have a company that has a monopoly on an MLB game.
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EA doesn't get the player rights and still goes through making the game. But it's all generic players and teams. Where the only way to make real MLB teams and players is by editing the rosters. I don't care what you say about SDS, die hard MLB fans won't play a game that isn't licensed.
So, you're going to end up with a company, that has a proven track record of making their games 'pay to play' driving a company that doesn't have that business model out of business or a second game that is non licensed.
Either way, I still see SDS standing tall in 2024
From my understanding. SDS does NOT have EXCLUSIVE Rights with MLB. They purchased the License for X-amount of years. Any other Game Label can also purchase the License as well as long as MLB feels they are credible enough.. However NO ONE else has been willing or wanting to pay that huge cost to get them MLB Licensing & risk their game NOT being able to turn a profit upon being released. This is how & why SDS has been the ONLY MLB Baseball Sim Game for the last several years.
As well the MLB Licensing includes & covers ALL active players. It's with the retired players EA will now need to seek out individually & get the Rights from them to use their name & likeness within the game. Also with which cards. Surely it will NOT be Topps because Topps is under Contract with MLBTS. However EA can easily strike a deal with Fleer, Upper Deck or Donruss to use their cards for retired players.
Per this article starting in 2025 Topps will no longer be able to produce baseball cards with MLB team logos.
If you look at the LS cards, in the Show now, and any of the FB/Legends, minus the new kinda (Milestone, 42, Awards, etc) they are all modeled after the players respective Topps card from that year.
Ex: Griffey JR's All-Star Silver card is a picture of the exact card from that years All-Star series that was in Topps set that year's release.
The LS Bobby Dalbec is the exact picture of his Topps RC card from this year's set.
Topps will be going the rights, to produce actual MLB designated cards, to Fanatics is 2025.
Yes, they can still print baseball cards, but they would be like how Panini cards are produced. The player with a generic uniform. No logos and not mention of team name other that the city.
Now, SDS may have to do something with Fanatics to keep offset what Topps is losing, so they can keep showing logos and team name is the digital versions of the player's card for the game.
Now, in order for any video game company to produce a game, with the player's name, likeness, and team name/logo, they have to have an agreement with that sports 'governing' entity. In this case, MLB and the MLBPA, along with the players that are considered legends.
EA has that exclusive agreement with the NFL. Thus why an NFL game produced that isn't by EA, Doug Flutie Football, can only have generic teams and players.
If the MLB decides to do an exclusivity rights deal, with either SDS or EA, then they will be the only ones able to produce a game with actual MLBPA players.
So, if SDS gets these exclusive rights, which I'm assuming they are trying, you can actually tell me that you would switch to a game, made by a different company, that wouldn't have actual MLB players and teams?
Again, the ONLY way EA will ever give SDS competition bus if they (EA) can get an exclusivity contract) or they use the same business model (highly doubtful) that SDS uses and have content that is both usable and doesn't cost an arm and a leg to acquire.
I see neither of those happening.
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@dirty-shawnchez_psn said in Attn: SDS, Your Days Are Numbered. Tick Tock, Tick Tock:
@tonythetiger2k16 said in Attn: SDS, Your Days Are Numbered. Tick Tock, Tick Tock:
@dirty-shawnchez_psn said in Attn: SDS, Your Days Are Numbered. Tick Tock, Tick Tock:
If the MLB decides to do an exclusivity rights deal, with either SDS or EA, then they will be the only ones able to produce a game with actual MLBPA players.
If what you say holds merit (which it does NOT) ..... Then that means OOTP on PC couldn't use MLB players & teams. But they do because they do have the MLB License as well. Therefore SDS does NOT have EXCLUSIVE Rights to MLB Teams, Players, Ballparks, etc. It's up to the MLB & MLBPA if they want to sell rights to an other Game Label or not. In most case they easily will because it's more money for them. The issue is that many Game Labels can NOT afford the cost of the Licensing or is just NOT willing to take the risk of paying for it & it's game failing to turn a profit once released.
