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    @codywolfgang_xbl said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    @squid_adams_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    Just won an 8 INNING events game. Should have gone 8 innings? No.

    A few of the things that caused it to go to 8 innings.

    -I had a runner on second and Aroldis Chapman up to bat. His pitcher is standing there for about 15 seconds, and I figure "why not pinch hit for Chapman?" So I hit L1 to back out of the box, and nothing happens. A moment later, the pitcher steps off the mound and the runner on 2nd goes for 3rd. Out

    -Trea Turner steals 3rd the following inning. The classic stuck in mud animation to allow your opponent to throw you out commences. Boom. Inning over.

    -Jarren Duran steals 3rd this time (successfully but in classic MLB the Show fashion, he goes for home without me putting in that command.) Out.

    Also in that game. Trout hits a gapper, that is probably better off as a single. I send him to 2nd initially, then send him back. The little box that shows what your runners are doing disappears and now I have no idea if Trout is running to second or staying on first. He ultimately ran to second....didn't get thrown out, but it was close.

    And of course we know about the game breaking frequency of home runs and inconsistency with hitting in general....as well as game scripting. Can't tell you how many games I've had in control and then something magical happens with my opponent in the final inning, causing me to lose the game.

    Madden has a 16 year head start in becoming a terrible franchise due to lack of competition...but MLB the Show (and frankly NBA 2k) are not far off. We sports games fans deserve better.

    Sounds like you can’t hit and got burned trying to steal a run on the base paths multiple times. The game isn’t as bad as Madden. I usually am cool with people voicing their concerns with the game, but your post is so far off base.

    It's really not...but go ahead and peep my response to so icy42 for more on my response.

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    As someone, one of many people who a month into maddens life cycle cant play a game without it shutting down my series X I can whole heartedly say this game is nowhere near as bad as Madden. They have to remove features to make madden playable for the few who can run the game without crashes, so yea The Show with all its flaws still doesn’t come anywhere near the disaster that is Madden.

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    @so-icy42_xbl said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    Sounds like you can’t hit and got burned trying to steal a run on the base paths multiple times. The game isn’t as bad as Madden. I usually am cool with people voicing their concerns with the game, but your post is so far off base.

    Yea he already admitted at the top of this page that he uses game exploits like slow animations and whatnot all the time. That confession just completely blew the microscopic amount of sympathy I had for him. I would not be the least bit surprised if he got gunned out through user error in all of these. I swear these clowns are the worst. They expect that just because a guy has 99 speed that they should be successful in stealing EVERY SINGLE TIME. Any time they get gunned out then they throw a fit and blame it on the game. I can honestly say that I’ve NEVER once tried using any of the exploits that exist. Yet this clown uses all of them and then complains when they don’t work 100% of the time. OP is such a cheap cry baby.

    Not looking for sympathy. Just illustrating how this game (much like Madden) has exploits you can take advantage of. After flying out to the warning track 3 times and going to the 4th extra inning in what was supposed to be a 3 inning event game, you tend to just want to get the game over with. If that means bunt cheese, using the stealing home glitch etc. I will do exactly that. Why? Because this game is broken and I no longer feel obliged to play it respectfully. I started off by only going for the wins with a legitimate hit...but that only means I'm going to inevitably line out to first or a warning track fly out and open up an opportunity for my opponent to beat me with a game exploit or a walk off home run by Ozzie Smith.

    And after my 7 day ban (For what exactly? I don't know. I didn't swear, make threats, etc...I guess we just have a lot of soft males in this forum who feel powerful reporting someone 😂) I can absolutely confirm...MLB the Show and Madden are one of the same. I knew it was over for this game when my 97 Lou Brock (you know, the one with 99 speed and 99 steal) got picked off at 1st after taking a one step lead and making no input to steal 2nd.

    I said to myself, heck with it, let's play again. Bottom of the 3rd in an event game, I'm up 1-0. My opponent hasn't been able to touch me all game. However, I wasn't surprised when a 2 out, 2 strike pitch was taken deep to tie the game. Okay, let's go to extra innings. I take the lead again, going up 4-1. Next inning I put in 99 Mariano. Bam, first pitch single...followed by a game tying home run! Only made possible with DDA/Game Scripting/Come Back Logic/Buffing and Nerfing etc. No worries, just come back and score another run and take a 5-4 lead. No way the game is going to keep giving him everything right? Wrong. Game scripting decides he will get 2 home runs on 2 pitches and win the game 6-5.

    The fun thing about it is...for all the simple minded players...the easiest response is "git gud" or "pitch better" or "this happens in real baseball" but what I see is exactly what other people who have abandoned this series see. The game (like every major sports franchise) is scripted. Player input matters maybe 50% and the other 50% is whatever the game decides to do. Maybe pepper a throwing error here, a routine fly ball drop there, and bam...the guy who I was beating can have fun again, now that the game is tied or he has taken the lead. None of that has to do with my skill as a player. I can appreciate going for authenticity, but at the end of the day this is a video game...and wins and losses should be decided by the PLAYERS.

    The only difference between The Show and Madden, is they aren't predatory with micro transactions. They give everyone the same bloated cards, so no one feels like they have to grind endlessly or spend $100...this takes some heat off SDS's back, so they don't get held accountable for churning out heavily flawed products. But don't be fooled. The gameplay is inconsistent and broken. There should be no exploits, no getting tied into an animation, no letting runners score because your fielders have no sense of urgency...but yet we have all these things, because SDS...just like EA and 2k...has gotten lazy. Who wouldn't? You literally have no competition.

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    @jeezy-e_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    As someone, one of many people who a month into maddens life cycle cant play a game without it shutting down my series X I can whole heartedly say this game is nowhere near as bad as Madden. They have to remove features to make madden playable for the few who can run the game without crashes, so yea The Show with all its flaws still doesn’t come anywhere near the disaster that is Madden.

    Like I said before, Madden has been without competition for 16 years and The Show has been without competition for 8 years. Of course Madden is further along in terms of sucking...but The Show is catching up quickly! The game has been going downhill since 18 I'd say...but I'll at least admit this: future Show games will make 21 look like a masterpiece. Things are only going to get worse. Maybe we'll see a Juan Pierre card with 115 power from both sides of the plate? In 2017, I'd rule that out...but not anymore. At the center of all the problems with this game has got to be the game-breaking, excessive home runs. I could almost deal with everything else, but man oh man does this game over exaggerate the percentage of hits that are homers. Almost as bad as a 3 point shooting Shaq card in 2k 😅

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    @squid_adams_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    Just won an 8 INNING events game. Should have gone 8 innings? No.

    A few of the things that caused it to go to 8 innings.

    -I had a runner on second and Aroldis Chapman up to bat. His pitcher is standing there for about 15 seconds, and I figure "why not pinch hit for Chapman?" So I hit L1 to back out of the box, and nothing happens. A moment later, the pitcher steps off the mound and the runner on 2nd goes for 3rd. Out

    -Trea Turner steals 3rd the following inning. The classic stuck in mud animation to allow your opponent to throw you out commences. Boom. Inning over.

    -Jarren Duran steals 3rd this time (successfully but in classic MLB the Show fashion, he goes for home without me putting in that command.) Out.

    Also in that game. Trout hits a gapper, that is probably better off as a single. I send him to 2nd initially, then send him back. The little box that shows what your runners are doing disappears and now I have no idea if Trout is running to second or staying on first. He ultimately ran to second....didn't get thrown out, but it was close.

    And of course we know about the game breaking frequency of home runs and inconsistency with hitting in general....as well as game scripting. Can't tell you how many games I've had in control and then something magical happens with my opponent in the final inning, causing me to lose the game.

    Madden has a 16 year head start in becoming a terrible franchise due to lack of competition...but MLB the Show (and frankly NBA 2k) are not far off. We sports games fans deserve better.

    You know you've smoked yourself [censored] when you think MLB is as bad as Madden. The kids watch too much tik tok man

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    @tattooeddude84 said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    @squid_adams_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    Just won an 8 INNING events game. Should have gone 8 innings? No.

    A few of the things that caused it to go to 8 innings.

    -I had a runner on second and Aroldis Chapman up to bat. His pitcher is standing there for about 15 seconds, and I figure "why not pinch hit for Chapman?" So I hit L1 to back out of the box, and nothing happens. A moment later, the pitcher steps off the mound and the runner on 2nd goes for 3rd. Out

    -Trea Turner steals 3rd the following inning. The classic stuck in mud animation to allow your opponent to throw you out commences. Boom. Inning over.

    -Jarren Duran steals 3rd this time (successfully but in classic MLB the Show fashion, he goes for home without me putting in that command.) Out.

    Also in that game. Trout hits a gapper, that is probably better off as a single. I send him to 2nd initially, then send him back. The little box that shows what your runners are doing disappears and now I have no idea if Trout is running to second or staying on first. He ultimately ran to second....didn't get thrown out, but it was close.

    And of course we know about the game breaking frequency of home runs and inconsistency with hitting in general....as well as game scripting. Can't tell you how many games I've had in control and then something magical happens with my opponent in the final inning, causing me to lose the game.

    Madden has a 16 year head start in becoming a terrible franchise due to lack of competition...but MLB the Show (and frankly NBA 2k) are not far off. We sports games fans deserve better.

    You know you've smoked yourself [censored] when you think MLB is as bad as Madden. The kids watch too much tik tok man

    Yeah, they really do haha. Who knew lip synching was fun to watch? Also...what's the purpose of abandoning Vine for TikTok. Aren't they the same exact thing?

    But yeah...I agree, you'd have to have smoked yourself silly to think this game is not on the same level as Madden. I've played both FARRRRRR more than I'm proud of, so I have a HUUUUUUGE sample size of both games. Madden is 90% broken, The Show is 75% broken. Basically means both games are garbage. Do you really think this game working 25% of the time makes it a superior product to Madden? It's like arguing if warm, moist dog poo is better than dried out, room temperature dog poo.

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    @squid_adams_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    @so-icy42_xbl said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    Sounds like you can’t hit and got burned trying to steal a run on the base paths multiple times. The game isn’t as bad as Madden. I usually am cool with people voicing their concerns with the game, but your post is so far off base.

    Yea he already admitted at the top of this page that he uses game exploits like slow animations and whatnot all the time. That confession just completely blew the microscopic amount of sympathy I had for him. I would not be the least bit surprised if he got gunned out through user error in all of these. I swear these clowns are the worst. They expect that just because a guy has 99 speed that they should be successful in stealing EVERY SINGLE TIME. Any time they get gunned out then they throw a fit and blame it on the game. I can honestly say that I’ve NEVER once tried using any of the exploits that exist. Yet this clown uses all of them and then complains when they don’t work 100% of the time. OP is such a cheap cry baby.

    Not looking for sympathy. Just illustrating how this game (much like Madden) has exploits you can take advantage of. After flying out to the warning track 3 times and going to the 4th extra inning in what was supposed to be a 3 inning event game, you tend to just want to get the game over with. If that means bunt cheese, using the stealing home glitch etc. I will do exactly that. Why? Because this game is broken and I no longer feel obliged to play it respectfully. I started off by only going for the wins with a legitimate hit...but that only means I'm going to inevitably line out to first or a warning track fly out and open up an opportunity for my opponent to beat me with a game exploit or a walk off home run by Ozzie Smith.

    And after my 7 day ban (For what exactly? I don't know. I didn't swear, make threats, etc...I guess we just have a lot of soft males in this forum who feel powerful reporting someone 😂) I can absolutely confirm...MLB the Show and Madden are one of the same. I knew it was over for this game when my 97 Lou Brock (you know, the one with 99 speed and 99 steal) got picked off at 1st after taking a one step lead and making no input to steal 2nd.

    I said to myself, heck with it, let's play again. Bottom of the 3rd in an event game, I'm up 1-0. My opponent hasn't been able to touch me all game. However, I wasn't surprised when a 2 out, 2 strike pitch was taken deep to tie the game. Okay, let's go to extra innings. I take the lead again, going up 4-1. Next inning I put in 99 Mariano. Bam, first pitch single...followed by a game tying home run! Only made possible with DDA/Game Scripting/Come Back Logic/Buffing and Nerfing etc. No worries, just come back and score another run and take a 5-4 lead. No way the game is going to keep giving him everything right? Wrong. Game scripting decides he will get 2 home runs on 2 pitches and win the game 6-5.

    The fun thing about it is...for all the simple minded players...the easiest response is "git gud" or "pitch better" or "this happens in real baseball" but what I see is exactly what other people who have abandoned this series see. The game (like every major sports franchise) is scripted. Player input matters maybe 50% and the other 50% is whatever the game decides to do. Maybe pepper a throwing error here, a routine fly ball drop there, and bam...the guy who I was beating can have fun again, now that the game is tied or he has taken the lead. None of that has to do with my skill as a player. I can appreciate going for authenticity, but at the end of the day this is a video game...and wins and losses should be decided by the PLAYERS.

    The only difference between The Show and Madden, is they aren't predatory with micro transactions. They give everyone the same bloated cards, so no one feels like they have to grind endlessly or spend $100...this takes some heat off SDS's back, so they don't get held accountable for churning out heavily flawed products. But don't be fooled. The gameplay is inconsistent and broken. There should be no exploits, no getting tied into an animation, no letting runners score because your fielders have no sense of urgency...but yet we have all these things, because SDS...just like EA and 2k...has gotten lazy. Who wouldn't? You literally have no competition.

    lol getting bunted on and picked off that's all on you

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    @hustlinowl_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    @squid_adams_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    @so-icy42_xbl said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    Sounds like you can’t hit and got burned trying to steal a run on the base paths multiple times. The game isn’t as bad as Madden. I usually am cool with people voicing their concerns with the game, but your post is so far off base.

    Yea he already admitted at the top of this page that he uses game exploits like slow animations and whatnot all the time. That confession just completely blew the microscopic amount of sympathy I had for him. I would not be the least bit surprised if he got gunned out through user error in all of these. I swear these clowns are the worst. They expect that just because a guy has 99 speed that they should be successful in stealing EVERY SINGLE TIME. Any time they get gunned out then they throw a fit and blame it on the game. I can honestly say that I’ve NEVER once tried using any of the exploits that exist. Yet this clown uses all of them and then complains when they don’t work 100% of the time. OP is such a cheap cry baby.

    Not looking for sympathy. Just illustrating how this game (much like Madden) has exploits you can take advantage of. After flying out to the warning track 3 times and going to the 4th extra inning in what was supposed to be a 3 inning event game, you tend to just want to get the game over with. If that means bunt cheese, using the stealing home glitch etc. I will do exactly that. Why? Because this game is broken and I no longer feel obliged to play it respectfully. I started off by only going for the wins with a legitimate hit...but that only means I'm going to inevitably line out to first or a warning track fly out and open up an opportunity for my opponent to beat me with a game exploit or a walk off home run by Ozzie Smith.

    And after my 7 day ban (For what exactly? I don't know. I didn't swear, make threats, etc...I guess we just have a lot of soft males in this forum who feel powerful reporting someone 😂) I can absolutely confirm...MLB the Show and Madden are one of the same. I knew it was over for this game when my 97 Lou Brock (you know, the one with 99 speed and 99 steal) got picked off at 1st after taking a one step lead and making no input to steal 2nd.

    I said to myself, heck with it, let's play again. Bottom of the 3rd in an event game, I'm up 1-0. My opponent hasn't been able to touch me all game. However, I wasn't surprised when a 2 out, 2 strike pitch was taken deep to tie the game. Okay, let's go to extra innings. I take the lead again, going up 4-1. Next inning I put in 99 Mariano. Bam, first pitch single...followed by a game tying home run! Only made possible with DDA/Game Scripting/Come Back Logic/Buffing and Nerfing etc. No worries, just come back and score another run and take a 5-4 lead. No way the game is going to keep giving him everything right? Wrong. Game scripting decides he will get 2 home runs on 2 pitches and win the game 6-5.

    The fun thing about it is...for all the simple minded players...the easiest response is "git gud" or "pitch better" or "this happens in real baseball" but what I see is exactly what other people who have abandoned this series see. The game (like every major sports franchise) is scripted. Player input matters maybe 50% and the other 50% is whatever the game decides to do. Maybe pepper a throwing error here, a routine fly ball drop there, and bam...the guy who I was beating can have fun again, now that the game is tied or he has taken the lead. None of that has to do with my skill as a player. I can appreciate going for authenticity, but at the end of the day this is a video game...and wins and losses should be decided by the PLAYERS.

    The only difference between The Show and Madden, is they aren't predatory with micro transactions. They give everyone the same bloated cards, so no one feels like they have to grind endlessly or spend $100...this takes some heat off SDS's back, so they don't get held accountable for churning out heavily flawed products. But don't be fooled. The gameplay is inconsistent and broken. There should be no exploits, no getting tied into an animation, no letting runners score because your fielders have no sense of urgency...but yet we have all these things, because SDS...just like EA and 2k...has gotten lazy. Who wouldn't? You literally have no competition.

    lol getting bunted on and picked off that's all on you

    Bunted on yes....Picked off no.

    Unless there's a game mechanic I'm unaware of, you can't be picked off of 1st unless you lead with a slow runner, or input the steal command. (remember, we're talking 99 speed/99 steal Lou Brock here) But I'm open to be proven wrong. Why did I get picked off?

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    @squid_adams_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    @hustlinowl_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    @squid_adams_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    @so-icy42_xbl said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    Sounds like you can’t hit and got burned trying to steal a run on the base paths multiple times. The game isn’t as bad as Madden. I usually am cool with people voicing their concerns with the game, but your post is so far off base.

    Yea he already admitted at the top of this page that he uses game exploits like slow animations and whatnot all the time. That confession just completely blew the microscopic amount of sympathy I had for him. I would not be the least bit surprised if he got gunned out through user error in all of these. I swear these clowns are the worst. They expect that just because a guy has 99 speed that they should be successful in stealing EVERY SINGLE TIME. Any time they get gunned out then they throw a fit and blame it on the game. I can honestly say that I’ve NEVER once tried using any of the exploits that exist. Yet this clown uses all of them and then complains when they don’t work 100% of the time. OP is such a cheap cry baby.

    Not looking for sympathy. Just illustrating how this game (much like Madden) has exploits you can take advantage of. After flying out to the warning track 3 times and going to the 4th extra inning in what was supposed to be a 3 inning event game, you tend to just want to get the game over with. If that means bunt cheese, using the stealing home glitch etc. I will do exactly that. Why? Because this game is broken and I no longer feel obliged to play it respectfully. I started off by only going for the wins with a legitimate hit...but that only means I'm going to inevitably line out to first or a warning track fly out and open up an opportunity for my opponent to beat me with a game exploit or a walk off home run by Ozzie Smith.

    And after my 7 day ban (For what exactly? I don't know. I didn't swear, make threats, etc...I guess we just have a lot of soft males in this forum who feel powerful reporting someone 😂) I can absolutely confirm...MLB the Show and Madden are one of the same. I knew it was over for this game when my 97 Lou Brock (you know, the one with 99 speed and 99 steal) got picked off at 1st after taking a one step lead and making no input to steal 2nd.

    I said to myself, heck with it, let's play again. Bottom of the 3rd in an event game, I'm up 1-0. My opponent hasn't been able to touch me all game. However, I wasn't surprised when a 2 out, 2 strike pitch was taken deep to tie the game. Okay, let's go to extra innings. I take the lead again, going up 4-1. Next inning I put in 99 Mariano. Bam, first pitch single...followed by a game tying home run! Only made possible with DDA/Game Scripting/Come Back Logic/Buffing and Nerfing etc. No worries, just come back and score another run and take a 5-4 lead. No way the game is going to keep giving him everything right? Wrong. Game scripting decides he will get 2 home runs on 2 pitches and win the game 6-5.

    The fun thing about it is...for all the simple minded players...the easiest response is "git gud" or "pitch better" or "this happens in real baseball" but what I see is exactly what other people who have abandoned this series see. The game (like every major sports franchise) is scripted. Player input matters maybe 50% and the other 50% is whatever the game decides to do. Maybe pepper a throwing error here, a routine fly ball drop there, and bam...the guy who I was beating can have fun again, now that the game is tied or he has taken the lead. None of that has to do with my skill as a player. I can appreciate going for authenticity, but at the end of the day this is a video game...and wins and losses should be decided by the PLAYERS.

    The only difference between The Show and Madden, is they aren't predatory with micro transactions. They give everyone the same bloated cards, so no one feels like they have to grind endlessly or spend $100...this takes some heat off SDS's back, so they don't get held accountable for churning out heavily flawed products. But don't be fooled. The gameplay is inconsistent and broken. There should be no exploits, no getting tied into an animation, no letting runners score because your fielders have no sense of urgency...but yet we have all these things, because SDS...just like EA and 2k...has gotten lazy. Who wouldn't? You literally have no competition.

    lol getting bunted on and picked off that's all on you

    Bunted on yes....Picked off no.

    Unless there's a game mechanic I'm unaware of, you can't be picked off of 1st unless you lead with a slow runner, or input the steal command. (remember, we're talking 99 speed/99 steal Lou Brock here) But I'm open to be proven wrong. Why did I get picked off?

    game gives you a lead no need to take an extra step thats on you

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    Even with the extra step, I've never been picked off or picked another person off. If it's Jim Thome, sure...not if it's Trea Turner, Lou Brock or Billy Hamilton. So...like I said before, why did I get picked off?

    Remember. This is a video game. By the rules of the video game, I shouldn't have been picked off. I don't care if it happens in real life...this isn't real life.

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    @hustlinowl_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    @squid_adams_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    @hustlinowl_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    @squid_adams_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    @so-icy42_xbl said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    Sounds like you can’t hit and got burned trying to steal a run on the base paths multiple times. The game isn’t as bad as Madden. I usually am cool with people voicing their concerns with the game, but your post is so far off base.

    Yea he already admitted at the top of this page that he uses game exploits like slow animations and whatnot all the time. That confession just completely blew the microscopic amount of sympathy I had for him. I would not be the least bit surprised if he got gunned out through user error in all of these. I swear these clowns are the worst. They expect that just because a guy has 99 speed that they should be successful in stealing EVERY SINGLE TIME. Any time they get gunned out then they throw a fit and blame it on the game. I can honestly say that I’ve NEVER once tried using any of the exploits that exist. Yet this clown uses all of them and then complains when they don’t work 100% of the time. OP is such a cheap cry baby.

    Not looking for sympathy. Just illustrating how this game (much like Madden) has exploits you can take advantage of. After flying out to the warning track 3 times and going to the 4th extra inning in what was supposed to be a 3 inning event game, you tend to just want to get the game over with. If that means bunt cheese, using the stealing home glitch etc. I will do exactly that. Why? Because this game is broken and I no longer feel obliged to play it respectfully. I started off by only going for the wins with a legitimate hit...but that only means I'm going to inevitably line out to first or a warning track fly out and open up an opportunity for my opponent to beat me with a game exploit or a walk off home run by Ozzie Smith.

    And after my 7 day ban (For what exactly? I don't know. I didn't swear, make threats, etc...I guess we just have a lot of soft males in this forum who feel powerful reporting someone 😂) I can absolutely confirm...MLB the Show and Madden are one of the same. I knew it was over for this game when my 97 Lou Brock (you know, the one with 99 speed and 99 steal) got picked off at 1st after taking a one step lead and making no input to steal 2nd.

    I said to myself, heck with it, let's play again. Bottom of the 3rd in an event game, I'm up 1-0. My opponent hasn't been able to touch me all game. However, I wasn't surprised when a 2 out, 2 strike pitch was taken deep to tie the game. Okay, let's go to extra innings. I take the lead again, going up 4-1. Next inning I put in 99 Mariano. Bam, first pitch single...followed by a game tying home run! Only made possible with DDA/Game Scripting/Come Back Logic/Buffing and Nerfing etc. No worries, just come back and score another run and take a 5-4 lead. No way the game is going to keep giving him everything right? Wrong. Game scripting decides he will get 2 home runs on 2 pitches and win the game 6-5.

    The fun thing about it is...for all the simple minded players...the easiest response is "git gud" or "pitch better" or "this happens in real baseball" but what I see is exactly what other people who have abandoned this series see. The game (like every major sports franchise) is scripted. Player input matters maybe 50% and the other 50% is whatever the game decides to do. Maybe pepper a throwing error here, a routine fly ball drop there, and bam...the guy who I was beating can have fun again, now that the game is tied or he has taken the lead. None of that has to do with my skill as a player. I can appreciate going for authenticity, but at the end of the day this is a video game...and wins and losses should be decided by the PLAYERS.

    The only difference between The Show and Madden, is they aren't predatory with micro transactions. They give everyone the same bloated cards, so no one feels like they have to grind endlessly or spend $100...this takes some heat off SDS's back, so they don't get held accountable for churning out heavily flawed products. But don't be fooled. The gameplay is inconsistent and broken. There should be no exploits, no getting tied into an animation, no letting runners score because your fielders have no sense of urgency...but yet we have all these things, because SDS...just like EA and 2k...has gotten lazy. Who wouldn't? You literally have no competition.

    lol getting bunted on and picked off that's all on you

    Bunted on yes....Picked off no.

    Unless there's a game mechanic I'm unaware of, you can't be picked off of 1st unless you lead with a slow runner, or input the steal command. (remember, we're talking 99 speed/99 steal Lou Brock here) But I'm open to be proven wrong. Why did I get picked off?

    game gives you a lead no need to take an extra step thats on you

    Even with the extra step, I've never been picked off or picked another person off. If it's Jim Thome, sure...not if it's Trea Turner, Lou Brock or Billy Hamilton. So...like I said before, why did I get picked off?

    Remember. This is a video game. By the rules of the video game, I shouldn't have been picked off. I don't care if it happens in real life...this isn't real life

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    Yes not all hits in the game are bad but are off good swings. But this game is so easy to see when it’s about to go bad while playing. I should not know that if I give up a very late or very early hit I’m giving up runs within 2 batters. I shouldn’t be able to have degrom at 125 pitches , still in the green throwing 102. But I bring in 96 chapman man and 5 pitches in I get the pitcher is tired alert. Content is what has been saving this gane the past 3 releases. If 22 plays like this it’s going to not be good for SDS

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    @squid_adams_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    Remember. This is a video game. By the rules of the video game, I shouldn't have been picked off. I don't care if it happens in real life...this isn't real life

    Wtf. What rules are these you speak of? The ones you made up in your head? Don't take a lead and you won't get picked off. It's that simple.

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    going back to where you said no buttons would work until he stepped off. After a pitch is selected nothing will work, with your HUUUUGE sample size you say you have I would think you'd know this. Just admit you screwed up multiple times in the game and call it a day.

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    @mam8a-245300_xbl said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    @squid_adams_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    Remember. This is a video game. By the rules of the video game, I shouldn't have been picked off. I don't care if it happens in real life...this isn't real life

    Wtf. What rules are these you speak of? The ones you made up in your head? Don't take a lead and you won't get picked off. It's that simple.

    The game has mechanics. You press square, you hit for power. Press circle, you hit for contact. Hit for a little contact and power press X. If you apply logic, you'd realize other facets of the game have mechanics. Like beanball said, you know what's coming when you have the lead in the final innings. I've been set up to lose on soooooo many occasions, I refuse to believe I have that big of an issue "under pressure."

    The base running mechanics, for as long as I've been playing this game are as follows: One lead, you're safe (with a fast player) Two leads is a crapshoot...you can be picked off, but can also get back safely. If you hit L2 in order to steal, and take a lead, it increases the probability of you being picked off. You're almost certainly getting picked off (or will just take off) if you press L2 with two leads (oh...btw, i mean when you hit L1 twice). Slow players have no business taking leads, as that's a good way to get picked off. SO given all that information, the mechanics the game has laid out over several iterations of "The Show", leading off with one L1 press, with a player like Lou Brock...with no command to steal, should not result in me getting picked off. I have not seen this happen before or since....with a LARGE sample size.

    So if the game isn't consistent on what constitutes being out or safe...along with hitting, pitching and fielding mechanics, then what am I playing? It's like a slot machine with no control over how you do. It should be more like Poker where you control your own destiny.

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    @foge011_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    going back to where you said no buttons would work until he stepped off. After a pitch is selected nothing will work, with your HUUUUGE sample size you say you have I would think you'd know this. Just admit you screwed up multiple times in the game and call it a day.

    You're just not aware of what's going on in these games brotha. Research DDA, then we can talk. And don't be predictable by refusing to look it up or say you've heard about it and it's BS.

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    i honestly didnt read the post

    i just came here to laugh at the title

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

    ok bye

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    Mlb the Show is not perfect by any means, however you obviously have not played Madden recently. Madden is the biggest joke of a game since Cyberpunk. EA might possibly the worst gaming company in the world. I play both equally right now, MUT h2h is unplayable.

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    @mereel13_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    i honestly didnt read the post

    i just came here to laugh at the title

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

    ok bye

    Later!

    Also, if you have time read the post. Might be eye opening 👀

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    @mubby_33_psn said in It's Official: MLB the Show is Just as Bad as Madden:

    Mlb the Show is not perfect by any means, however you obviously have not played Madden recently. Madden is the biggest joke of a game since Cyberpunk. EA might possibly the worst gaming company in the world. I play both equally right now, MUT h2h is unplayable.

    If you're playing Madden right now, must not be THAT bad. Probably a load of poo every single game, just like MLB The Show. I will say though...I think it's probably harder to make a football game than a baseball game. 22 bodies running around is a lot more complex than one pitcher throwing to one batter with 8 stationary fielders. I would sure hope there's not as many straight up glitches.

    The thing is...MLB The Show isn't a glitch fest like Madden. It's mostly horrible animations which leads to you getting out, committing an error or giving up runs, along with the blatant buffing+nerfing and/or game scripting. They only get away with it because so many of you are empty headed and okay as long as you're getting free and easy to earn 99 cards.

    So to all the naysayers...are you arguing that MLB The Show isn't as bad as Madden or are you arguing the MLB The Show is a good game?

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