Ty Cobb
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@ladyswampfox_xbl said in Ty Cobb:
@misfits_138_1_psn said in Ty Cobb:
Another factor, IMHO, is that Cobb is still a polarizing figure.
It's pretty common knowledge that his first bio was full of lies and slander (as well as the awful movie)-- he wasn't a racist, didn't spike players, and wasn't a drunk.
But it's hard to destroy almost a century of really bad info.In the current political and social climate, you can't blame SDS if he isn't in this year.
Karen's nationwide would have had a fit.It’s very tragic how Stump destroyed his character. If more people bothered to look up the positive things Cobb had to say about integration of baseball, he would be as celebrated as Babe Ruth is.
Definitely. Did you read "A Terrible Beauty"?
Cobb called for integration 20 years before it happened.
And he used to throw out the first pitch and hang out in the dugout at Negro League games.
But the myth of the insane, alcoholic racist is still what people think of him.
It's the biggest miscarriage of justice in baseball history.
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@ncstatehokie_psn said in Ty Cobb:
@kovz88_psn said in Ty Cobb:
They do not have the rights so he's not coming. Was a great bat last year
How do you know this?
If you look on the rosters, non online, you will not see him.....SDS normally puts all the players they have rights for on these rosters well before they enter DD...that's why I laugh at the Jeter or Randy Johnson guesses every year....
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I just noticed it looks like Wade Boggs is gone also?
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@misfits_138_1_psn said in Ty Cobb:
@ladyswampfox_xbl said in Ty Cobb:
@misfits_138_1_psn said in Ty Cobb:
Another factor, IMHO, is that Cobb is still a polarizing figure.
It's pretty common knowledge that his first bio was full of lies and slander (as well as the awful movie)-- he wasn't a racist, didn't spike players, and wasn't a drunk.
But it's hard to destroy almost a century of really bad info.In the current political and social climate, you can't blame SDS if he isn't in this year.
Karen's nationwide would have had a fit.It’s very tragic how Stump destroyed his character. If more people bothered to look up the positive things Cobb had to say about integration of baseball, he would be as celebrated as Babe Ruth is.
Definitely. Did you read "A Terrible Beauty"?
Cobb called for integration 20 years before it happened.
And he used to throw out the first pitch and hang out in the dugout at Negro League games.
But the myth of the insane, alcoholic racist is still what people think of him.
It's the biggest miscarriage of justice in baseball history.
The guy built hospitals!Agree. It’s up there with Rose’s permanent ban and the blown call in Galarraga’s perfect game
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I think I read earlier in the year that the same management company handles Cobb, Ted Williams and Rogers Hornsby's rights, and they couldn't work out a deal for whatever reason so we lost all 3 just like that.
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@skarmaen_psn said in Ty Cobb:
I think I read earlier in the year that the same management company handles Cobb, Ted Williams and Rogers Hornsby's rights, and they couldn't work out a deal for whatever reason so we lost all 3 just like that.
Awww are you kidding me? That sucks—three of the best players in baseball and in the game last year, and we can’t play with them because a deal fell through.
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Ty Cobb did get a bad wrap but on the other hand I am ok with Roger Hornsby never being allowed back in the game. Dude was an [censored] and from every account I have seen, part of the KKK.
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@baracesilk_psn said in Ty Cobb:
Ty Cobb did get a bad wrap but on the other hand I am ok with Roger Hornsby never being allowed back in the game. Dude was an [censored] and from every account I have seen, part of the KKK.
O rly? And your sources for this information?
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Everyone knows of the Fred Lieb accusation but I take that with a grain of salt. However, the president of the Boston Braves (Emil Fuchs) and city councilman William Lynch also stated he was in the KKK. There were other players during the time who came out affirming the accusation. Now it was all 100 years ago, so it's not like we have computer drives full of information, just little excerpts written here and there.
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@baracesilk_psn said in Ty Cobb:
Everyone knows of the Fred Lieb accusation but I take that with a grain of salt. However, the president of the Boston Braves (Emil Fuchs) and city councilman William Lynch also stated he was in the KKK. There were other players during the time who came out affirming the accusation. Now it was all 100 years ago, so it's not like we have computer drives full of information, just little excerpts written here and there.
So you're basing this off of two or three people saying something from a hundred years ago? Real good reason to run a guy's name through the mud after he is gone. Sounds like you have an agenda. This isn't the first thread I've seen you post this.
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Yes I have some agenda.......or I just don't want a KKK member in the game...
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@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Ty Cobb:
@baracesilk_psn said in Ty Cobb:
Everyone knows of the Fred Lieb accusation but I take that with a grain of salt. However, the president of the Boston Braves (Emil Fuchs) and city councilman William Lynch also stated he was in the KKK. There were other players during the time who came out affirming the accusation. Now it was all 100 years ago, so it's not like we have computer drives full of information, just little excerpts written here and there.
So you're basing this off of two or three people saying something from a hundred years ago? Real good reason to run a guy's name through the mud after he is gone. Sounds like you have an agenda. This isn't the first thread I've seen you post this.
Actually, I want to hear this... What agenda could I possibly have???
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@baracesilk_psn said in Ty Cobb:
Everyone knows of the Fred Lieb accusation but I take that with a grain of salt. However, the president of the Boston Braves (Emil Fuchs) and city councilman William Lynch also stated he was in the KKK. There were other players during the time who came out affirming the accusation. Now it was all 100 years ago, so it's not like we have computer drives full of information, just little excerpts written here and there.
Where are the receipts then? We can’t believe a word of what you say without actual proof.
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You don't have to believe a word I say. There are literally hundreds of articles about it just using google. It's ok, I get you want to defend a KKK member but I am not game for that and I won't. You can continue playing with him and that is fine. I rather not have a person of his caliber in the game. Even outside of his racist behavior, he was one of the most hated man to ever play the game. His teammates hated him, as a coach his players hated him. He just wasn't a good guy.
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@ccarr77_psn said in Ty Cobb:
@schnauzerface said in Ty Cobb:
If his swing animation is not an option for your RTTS ballplayer then that usually (always?) means SDS doesn’t have that player’s rights, or at least they don’t plan to use those rights.
Who you got as the best CAP swings?
Josh Hamilton's swing is what I use and my CAP crushes from both sides.
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@baracesilk_psn said in Ty Cobb:
You don't have to believe a word I say. There are literally hundreds of articles about it just using google. It's ok, I get you want to defend a KKK member but I am not game for that and I won't. You can continue playing with him and that is fine. I rather not have a person of his caliber in the game. Even outside of his racist behavior, he was one of the most hated man to ever play the game. His teammates hated him, as a coach his players hated him. He just wasn't a good guy.
I still need proof as to what you’re talking about. All of the stuff I’ve read mentions none of what you say
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@ch-76-1908_psn said in Ty Cobb:
I just noticed it looks like Wade Boggs is gone also?
Boss Hogg is very much still alive…
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@jipp84_psn said in Ty Cobb:
@ch-76-1908_psn said in Ty Cobb:
I just noticed it looks like Wade Boggs is gone also?
Boss Hogg is very much still alive…
LOL I see my mistake now, Also I LOVE me some Sunny! Well played!
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@ladyswampfox_xbl said in Ty Cobb:
@baracesilk_psn said in Ty Cobb:
You don't have to believe a word I say. There are literally hundreds of articles about it just using google. It's ok, I get you want to defend a KKK member but I am not game for that and I won't. You can continue playing with him and that is fine. I rather not have a person of his caliber in the game. Even outside of his racist behavior, he was one of the most hated man to ever play the game. His teammates hated him, as a coach his players hated him. He just wasn't a good guy.
I still need proof as to what you’re talking about. All of the stuff I’ve read mentions none of what you say
Typical of his kind. His agenda can't produce facts or evidence. Its all hearsay to further the rhetoric. Just block him. "Well there's no proof but he was a meany so no one should be able to use his card because I am offended.
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