top guys cant lose?
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@skepple15 said in top guys cant lose?:
@thinkbluedgr said in top guys cant lose?:
You're right. The top players are sore losers. They will blame the game when they lose. I remember watching pitching rebels stream couple years ago and he was blaming the game when he was losing. It's always been like this. This is why I don't care who the top players are. Means nothing. I have more respect for the average player who plays straight up and doesn't quit when losing.
And the followers who send messages to you, they're even bigger losers.
Rebel has definitely changed from a couple years ago. I think he’s just accepted that this is how the game is going to go.
I have respect for people who don’t quit while losing...
Aside from DCs I have not quit a game since 17. It's my code, if I'm down a ton I'll just throw a position player out there until I'm mercied.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in top guys cant lose?:
Turning PS messages off has been a real blessing.
Not only does it prevent others from sending me dumb angry messages, but it prevents me from potentially sending a message in the heat of the moment that I will undoubtedly regret later.
But hate mail is soooooo much fun. But yeah sending it is a no no. There have been times I've wanted to but the better half of me suggested otherwise.
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@Ikasnu said in top guys cant lose?:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in top guys cant lose?:
Turning PS messages off has been a real blessing.
Not only does it prevent others from sending me dumb angry messages, but it prevents me from potentially sending a message in the heat of the moment that I will undoubtedly regret later.
But hate mail is soooooo much fun. But yeah sending it is a no no. There have been times I've wanted to but the better half of me suggested otherwise.
having the emotional restraint of an adult is an expectation no ? i still do the odd rage quit and punch myself in the plums we're all human but weird msg's through PSN? got probssssss if ya do this !!!!!
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Even had that Jerzey Network guy message me post game because I almost beat him. He was crying that the game should of not been so close. smh.
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Yeah, I took the recommendation to turn of messages last year and have not regretted it.
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I beat YourFriendKyle yesterday. Watch his stream, he completely ignored that I was taking pitches just off the plate and having good ab's and complained that he wasn't being rewarded for good input
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@UnderhandCloud14 said in top guys cant lose?:
I beat YourFriendKyle yesterday. Watch his stream, he completely ignored that I was taking pitches just off the plate and having good ab's and complained that he wasn't being rewarded for good input
He probably wasn't being rewarded for good input
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@mitchhammond24 said in top guys cant lose?:
@UnderhandCloud14 said in top guys cant lose?:
I beat YourFriendKyle yesterday. Watch his stream, he completely ignored that I was taking pitches just off the plate and having good ab's and complained that he wasn't being rewarded for good input
He probably wasn't being rewarded for good input
Or he got beat
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@UnderhandCloud14 said in top guys cant lose?:
I beat YourFriendKyle yesterday. Watch his stream, he completely ignored that I was taking pitches just off the plate and having good ab's and complained that he wasn't being rewarded for good input
he sounds like a loser dude yet another YT nerd personality with 0 social skills
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@TheHungryHole said in top guys cant lose?:
@UnderhandCloud14 said in top guys cant lose?:
I beat YourFriendKyle yesterday. Watch his stream, he completely ignored that I was taking pitches just off the plate and having good ab's and complained that he wasn't being rewarded for good input
he sounds like a loser dude yet another YT nerd personality with 0 social skills
Your replies always crack me up brotha
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@UnderhandCloud14 said in top guys cant lose?:
I beat YourFriendKyle yesterday. Watch his stream, he completely ignored that I was taking pitches just off the plate and having good ab's and complained that he wasn't being rewarded for good input
This is one of the reasons people like Kevin so much. Sure, he every now and then he’ll say something like “How was that not gone?”, but for the most part he just gets upset with himself for missing a good pitch or not locating pitches. He doesn’t constantly blame every thing that does wrong on the game itself.
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@UnderhandCloud14 said in top guys cant lose?:
I beat YourFriendKyle yesterday. Watch his stream, he completely ignored that I was taking pitches just off the plate and having good ab's and complained that he wasn't being rewarded for good input
It is absolutely possible that you deserved to win. However, it is also possible that you won as a consequence of him not being rewarded.
This is why I habitually check the PCI analysis post game and look at the hit-chances of both players' hits and outs and check how many fouled balls each player had and where. This way you can analyse the end-result of the game in a more objective manner.
I for instance won my last RS game against a relatively highly rated player, but will be the first to admit that, from an objective stand-point, I should not have won.
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Seraf one thing that legit amazes me is the concept that someone deserves to win. In my entire sporting life there has been one fact NOBODY “deserves” to win. Deserve implies some sort of morality to winning and losing.
Imo the person or team that “deserves” to win is the person or team who actually won.
The only stat that really matters is W. Every other stat is derivative and only serves to give insight in how to increase the chances of an increase in the W stat.
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@Maverick31762 said in top guys cant lose?:
Seraf one thing that legit amazes me is the concept that someone deserves to win. In my entire sporting life there has been one fact NOBODY “deserves” to win. Deserve implies some sort of morality to winning and losing.
Imo the person or team that “deserves” to win is the person or team who actually won.
The only stat that really matters is W. Every other stat is derivative and only serves to give insight in how to increase the chances of an increase in the W stat.
I respectfully disagree.
In almost all sporting activities luck either plays no role at all or is too insignificant to determine the winner. We had a discussion regarding this in the past and no, Chael Sonnen didn't get unlucky when he lost to Anderson Silva. Nor did the soviet hockey team get unlucky vs. the US hockey team in miracle on the ice.
In baseball, luck can play a factor, to an extent - provided that the teams perform to such a similar level throughout the game to leave an opening for luck to factor in.
This iteration of MLB the show is however much much worse than that. The post game PCI analysis does show objectively which player performed better during their at-bats and the difference can be monumental.
In terms of how this game operates, I do consider it absolutely valid to at times state that the losing player factually and objectively deserved to win, much like my last RS opponent should have.
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I was NOT talking about luck.
But since you brought it up if you acknowledge it’s existence then how are you saying it has no impact.
But anyway, my point, which you may just disagree with, is that deserves has no place in sports. It’s the equivalent of coulda, shoulda, woulda. Or I almost won. The bottom line is figuring out how to outscore your opponent NOT squaring up more
Anyway the beauty of baseball for me is that it doesn’t have as much a direct cause and effect outcome compared to other sports. Stuff happens.
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@Maverick31762 said in top guys cant lose?:
deserves has no place in sports. It’s the equivalent of coulda, shoulda, woulda. Or I almost won. The bottom line is figuring out how to outscore your opponent NOT squaring up more
Anyway the beauty of baseball for me is that it doesn’t have as much a direct cause and effect outcome compared to other sports. Stuff happens.This is why I made the distinction.
The word "deserve" has generally no place in sports - however, it has a place when it comes to MLB the Show, and particularly MLB the show 19.
Outscoring = squaring up more - you will not overcome overabundant lineouts by attempting to bloop your way on base. That simply will not work (and if it did, it would be more than sad).
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@SefarR said in top guys cant lose?:
@UnderhandCloud14 said in top guys cant lose?:
I beat YourFriendKyle yesterday. Watch his stream, he completely ignored that I was taking pitches just off the plate and having good ab's and complained that he wasn't being rewarded for good input
It is absolutely possible that you deserved to win. However, it is also possible that you won as a consequence of him not being rewarded.
This is why I habitually check the PCI analysis post game and look at the hit-chances of both players' hits and outs and check how many fouled balls each player had and where. This way you can analyse the end-result of the game in a more objective manner.
I for instance won my last RS game against a relatively highly rated player, but will be the first to admit that, from an objective stand-point, I should not have won.
I think the post game analysis isnt 100% accurate , I also know that what’s on my screen is not always on OP’s . The swing feedback , hot zones, etc. I don’t trust any of it.
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@Therealest_JB said in top guys cant lose?:
@SefarR said in top guys cant lose?:
@UnderhandCloud14 said in top guys cant lose?:
I beat YourFriendKyle yesterday. Watch his stream, he completely ignored that I was taking pitches just off the plate and having good ab's and complained that he wasn't being rewarded for good input
It is absolutely possible that you deserved to win. However, it is also possible that you won as a consequence of him not being rewarded.
This is why I habitually check the PCI analysis post game and look at the hit-chances of both players' hits and outs and check how many fouled balls each player had and where. This way you can analyse the end-result of the game in a more objective manner.
I for instance won my last RS game against a relatively highly rated player, but will be the first to admit that, from an objective stand-point, I should not have won.
I think the post game analysis isnt 100% accurate , I also know that what’s on my screen is not always on OP’s . The swing feedback , hot zones, etc. I don’t trust any of it.
In my experience it is very accurate. I have checked it numerous times after each input and have not myself seen anything to indicate that it wouldn't be accurate. I'm not saying it can't happen, but I'm saying that it is generally reliable.
I've also heard that you may get a red 15 on something that isn't squared, but I have never seen anything but a good/squared be a 15/N. This is also why I check the combination of the hit chance and the timing.
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@SefarR said in top guys cant lose?:
@Therealest_JB said in top guys cant lose?:
@SefarR said in top guys cant lose?:
@UnderhandCloud14 said in top guys cant lose?:
I beat YourFriendKyle yesterday. Watch his stream, he completely ignored that I was taking pitches just off the plate and having good ab's and complained that he wasn't being rewarded for good input
It is absolutely possible that you deserved to win. However, it is also possible that you won as a consequence of him not being rewarded.
This is why I habitually check the PCI analysis post game and look at the hit-chances of both players' hits and outs and check how many fouled balls each player had and where. This way you can analyse the end-result of the game in a more objective manner.
I for instance won my last RS game against a relatively highly rated player, but will be the first to admit that, from an objective stand-point, I should not have won.
I think the post game analysis isnt 100% accurate , I also know that what’s on my screen is not always on OP’s . The swing feedback , hot zones, etc. I don’t trust any of it.
In my experience it is very accurate. I have checked it numerous times after each input and have not myself seen anything to indicate that it wouldn't be accurate. I'm not saying it can't happen, but I'm saying that it is generally reliable.
I've also heard that you may get a red 15 on something that isn't squared, but I have never seen anything but a good/squared be a 15/N. This is also why I check the combination of the hit chance and the timing.
You can get a just early/ squared up as a 15 too. I don't think I've seen anything else though.
