Pitchers with low velocity?
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Thank you sir!
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@coachbelichuck said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
@hikes83_psn said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
Fernando has a high pitch release so the best way to pitch with him is high tunnels. Even though he has low velo, he’s the one on my team with the beat K/9. Something absurd like 190K in 115 innings or something like that. Fernando you need to throw the screwball and circle change alot with the occasional FB out of the zone
Maddux is the same way. His sinker tunnels well with the cutter and the circle change and has insane movement.
Basically with low velo guys, you have rely alot on tunnelling and sequencing to keep your opponent off balance
Spamming low is NEVER a good idea. What you’re basically doing is telling your opponent he only has to worry about 1/3 of the zone
Thanks for the detailed advice. I appreciate this a lot. Is Fernando ok to use online?
yes.... he's great. I haven't used him personally, but him and Cabrera are the two guys I've struggled the most against online. I hate facing those two guys.... Fernando is very hard for me to pick up.
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Fernando definitely usable, he’s got a slow delivery though and low velo so it can be tedious at times.
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Facing Fernando on HOF when your muscle memory wants you to hack early is tough; if the player knows how to use him, good night…
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Thanks man. I haven't seen him at all. I faced that guy Cabrera for the first time on Saturday. First time I've rage quit in a very long time. That guy is glitch or something
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@timshady10_psn said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
Fernando definitely usable, he’s got a slow delivery though and low velo so it can be tedious at times.
Thanks man. That's good to know.
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@yankblan_psn said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
Facing Fernando on HOF when your muscle memory wants you to hack early is tough; if the player knows how to use him, good night…
Thanks man. I'm usually hanging out in the lower divisions but that's good to know, if I can ever move up.
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@hikes83_psn said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
@yankblan_psn said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
I see that expression a lot here, tunneling? What does that mean?
Basically it’s the idea that two (or more) different pitches are delivered from the same height and angle out of the hand and travel the same trajectory long enough to look identical
I was about to come in here and say exactly this. Example: Slider and a Fastball. Throw slider first, then throw a fast ball at the exact same spot where the slider was going before it broke it's plane. This works wonder IRL as well. You can have a teams best hitters looking silly. Obviously you have to mix up your pitch sequences, locations, etc. But tunneling is something that doesnt get the recognition it deserves. My opinion at least.
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Tunnelling is the king this season. Just wanted to add to what the other guys were saying in here.
There's two parts to pitching I'd like to elaborate on to help - tunnelling - and watching your opponent's swing results section. Combining the two will result in a bad time for any opponent, even the best of the best. There are guys who are absolute pitching gods that can't hit worth a lick in the top 50 right now, just go check RS hitting and pitching stats.
Anyway here's my strategy:
For the first batter of every game - I like to throw a few balls to start the game off. Low and inside, high and inside. If they chase, you know two things - a) tunnelling is going to be incredibly effective and b) you aren't restricted to staying in the zone.
For tunnelling, here's my tips. At the start of every AB. Pick a spot you want to work off of. This can be anywhere you want, literally anywhere for the first few batters (if you start to see them barrelling a certain location, cross it out from your mind as a place to start your tunnel).
If you start with a slider or off speed, throw it, and make sure you're staring at your pitcher's release. Wherever it is before it starts breaking - that's where your fastball should go. I don't care if it's down the middle. That's where it should go. That's how tunnelling works most effectively.
Now, that doesn't mean your next pitch is a fastball, which is what guys above are kind of implying by not elaborating. This is when you want to look at the swing results section in the bottom left. Say that first pitch was indeed a slider that broke to the bottom right corner, and you've set yourself up for a middle high fastball down the middle. The question you have to review is: was he early? Was he late? And how early and late? If he was slightly early or slightly late, maybe it's time to tunnel that fastball because the change of speed will throw him off. If he's very early or very late, it's time to throw that exact same pitch again - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. This is the BIGGEST mistake I see my opponents make. I'll be very early on a slider, and they'll go right to the tunnel fastball, and I send it to timbucktoo.
The best pitcher I faced in my most recent 12-1 BR run (my only loss) - at one point he threw me 8 straight sliders before giving me a fastball. I fouled every slider off very early but slowly and surely started to get closer to getting the slider on time. The second I had the slider timed, he went to that fastball, and I popped up very late. Incredible sequence. "Convince me you're on the pitch before I stop throwing it" was his mantra, and it worked insanely well.
Combine this all with pin point pitching, and you're giving people a world of hurt.
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Unpredictability as well. In real baseball, each hitter has his own experience facing you. Video game, you're facing the same guy 27 times in a row.
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@sheyworth_xbl said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
Tunnelling is the king this season. Just wanted to add to what the other guys were saying in here.
There's two parts to pitching I'd like to elaborate on to help - tunnelling - and watching your opponent's swing results section. Combining the two will result in a bad time for any opponent, even the best of the best. There are guys who are absolute pitching gods that can't hit worth a lick in the top 50 right now, just go check RS hitting and pitching stats.
Anyway here's my strategy:
For the first batter of every game - I like to throw a few balls to start the game off. Low and inside, high and inside. If they chase, you know two things - a) tunnelling is going to be incredibly effective and b) you aren't restricted to staying in the zone.
For tunnelling, here's my tips. At the start of every AB. Pick a spot you want to work off of. This can be anywhere you want, literally anywhere for the first few batters (if you start to see them barrelling a certain location, cross it out from your mind as a place to start your tunnel).
If you start with a slider or off speed, throw it, and make sure you're staring at your pitcher's release. Wherever it is before it starts breaking - that's where your fastball should go. I don't care if it's down the middle. That's where it should go. That's how tunnelling works most effectively.
Now, that doesn't mean your next pitch is a fastball, which is what guys above are kind of implying by not elaborating. This is when you want to look at the swing results section in the bottom left. Say that first pitch was indeed a slider that broke to the bottom right corner, and you've set yourself up for a middle high fastball down the middle. The question you have to review is: was he early? Was he late? And how early and late? If he was slightly early or slightly late, maybe it's time to tunnel that fastball because the change of speed will throw him off. If he's very early or very late, it's time to throw that exact same pitch again - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. This is the BIGGEST mistake I see my opponents make. I'll be very early on a slider, and they'll go right to the tunnel fastball, and I send it to timbucktoo.
The best pitcher I faced in my most recent 12-1 BR run (my only loss) - at one point he threw me 8 straight sliders before giving me a fastball. I fouled every slider off very early but slowly and surely started to get closer to getting the slider on time. The second I had the slider timed, he went to that fastball, and I popped up very late. Incredible sequence. "Convince me you're on the pitch before I stop throwing it" was his mantra, and it worked insanely well.
Combine this all with pin point pitching, and you're giving people a world of hurt.
Thanks man. Very elaborate explanation. This is more or less.my strategy with high velo pitchers. I consider myself a decent to good pitcher. I really need to be good to great if I want to compete in these higher divisions as I can't hit the side of a barn. As I'm moving up the hitters are getting better. If I could add some change of pace pitching I think it will help me immensely. I'm going to focus on tunneling even more than I normally do for sure.
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@coachbelichuck said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
@sheyworth_xbl said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
Tunnelling is the king this season. Just wanted to add to what the other guys were saying in here.
There's two parts to pitching I'd like to elaborate on to help - tunnelling - and watching your opponent's swing results section. Combining the two will result in a bad time for any opponent, even the best of the best. There are guys who are absolute pitching gods that can't hit worth a lick in the top 50 right now, just go check RS hitting and pitching stats.
Anyway here's my strategy:
For the first batter of every game - I like to throw a few balls to start the game off. Low and inside, high and inside. If they chase, you know two things - a) tunnelling is going to be incredibly effective and b) you aren't restricted to staying in the zone.
For tunnelling, here's my tips. At the start of every AB. Pick a spot you want to work off of. This can be anywhere you want, literally anywhere for the first few batters (if you start to see them barrelling a certain location, cross it out from your mind as a place to start your tunnel).
If you start with a slider or off speed, throw it, and make sure you're staring at your pitcher's release. Wherever it is before it starts breaking - that's where your fastball should go. I don't care if it's down the middle. That's where it should go. That's how tunnelling works most effectively.
Now, that doesn't mean your next pitch is a fastball, which is what guys above are kind of implying by not elaborating. This is when you want to look at the swing results section in the bottom left. Say that first pitch was indeed a slider that broke to the bottom right corner, and you've set yourself up for a middle high fastball down the middle. The question you have to review is: was he early? Was he late? And how early and late? If he was slightly early or slightly late, maybe it's time to tunnel that fastball because the change of speed will throw him off. If he's very early or very late, it's time to throw that exact same pitch again - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. This is the BIGGEST mistake I see my opponents make. I'll be very early on a slider, and they'll go right to the tunnel fastball, and I send it to timbucktoo.
The best pitcher I faced in my most recent 12-1 BR run (my only loss) - at one point he threw me 8 straight sliders before giving me a fastball. I fouled every slider off very early but slowly and surely started to get closer to getting the slider on time. The second I had the slider timed, he went to that fastball, and I popped up very late. Incredible sequence. "Convince me you're on the pitch before I stop throwing it" was his mantra, and it worked insanely well.
Combine this all with pin point pitching, and you're giving people a world of hurt.
Thanks man. Very elaborate explanation. This is more or less.my strategy with high velo pitchers. I consider myself a decent to good pitcher. I really need to be good to great if I want to compete in these higher divisions as I can't hit the side of a barn. As I'm moving up the hitters are getting better. If I could add some change of pace pitching I think it will help me immensely. I'm going to focus on tunneling even more than I normally do for sure.
Slider low+outside for a ball. Then fastball low+outside for a strike. That is all.
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@darthvaderlight3_psn said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
Unpredictability as well. In real baseball, each hitter has his own experience facing you. Video game, you're facing the same guy 27 times in a row.
That's why I'm trying to add some low velocity guys. Hoping that will add to my unpredictability. I pitched through high school, so I have a decent blueprint on the fundamentals.
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@coachbelichuck said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
@darthvaderlight3_psn said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
Unpredictability as well. In real baseball, each hitter has his own experience facing you. Video game, you're facing the same guy 27 times in a row.
That's why I'm trying to add some low velocity guys. Hoping that will add to my unpredictability. I pitched through high school, so I have a decent blueprint on the fundamentals.
Nice dude, we have the advantage then. I caught and still catch on weekends and make the pitch calls myself. Funnest part of baseball for me.
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Nice man. Nothing like having a good catcher, especially if you can call games. Unfortunately I've been out of high school for almost 20 years. Nowadays its about coaching my son and old man modified softball.
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@coachbelichuck said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
Nice man. Nothing like having a good catcher, especially if you can call games. Unfortunately I've been out of high school for almost 20 years. Nowadays its about coaching my son and old man modified softball.
I hear ya man. Im 30 in men's league and taking little man to his games throughout the week. Cleats ain't never gettin hung up!
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@hikes83_psn said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
Fernando has a high pitch release so the best way to pitch with him is high tunnels. Even though he has low velo, he’s the one on my team with the best K/9. Something absurd like 190K in 115 innings or something like that. Fernando you need to throw the screwball and circle change alot with the occasional FB out of the zone
Maddux is the same way. His sinker tunnels well with the cutter and the circle change and has insane movement.
Basically with low velo guys, you have rely alot on tunnelling and sequencing to keep your opponent off balance
Spamming low is NEVER a good idea. What you’re basically doing is telling your opponent he only has to worry about 1/3 of the zone
Fernando turns his dam back to the batter when he pitches. it is extremely hard to pick up the ball
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@coachbelichuck said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
@yankblan_psn said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
Facing Fernando on HOF when your muscle memory wants you to hack early is tough; if the player knows how to use him, good night…
Thanks man. I'm usually hanging out in the lower divisions but that's good to know, if I can ever move up.
Probably hit my ceiling for the year, maybe low 800s if I pick up the pace to keep my rhythm and improve, but started alternating with FF7, so…
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@yankblan_psn said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
@coachbelichuck said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
@yankblan_psn said in Pitchers with low velocity?:
Facing Fernando on HOF when your muscle memory wants you to hack early is tough; if the player knows how to use him, good night…
Thanks man. I'm usually hanging out in the lower divisions but that's good to know, if I can ever move up.
Probably hit my ceiling for the year, maybe low 800s if I pick up the pace to keep my rhythm and improve, but started alternating with FF7, so…
Lol. Just got done downloading FF7. in another month or two, this game online will be all 99 overall pitchers and I'll quietly bow out.
