Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?
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@arvcpa_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
Last year was my first year playing DD. I played every mode, off-line and on-line. I did play RS pretty heavily. I was not that good, but worked to develop my skills and work towards Prestige programs.
This year, for on-line, I've focused much more on BR than RS. I get to 500 on RS to gather my free diamond. I don't think I'll ever get to the WS level, and don't want to beat my head against the wall.
With the change to the BR program this year, with more rewards, I find myself hanging out in that world a lot. I can get to the 100 point total in a month, short games, diverse lineups... I love it. I'll never go 12-0, but I can get to 8-9 wins per entry and complete most of the "missions".
I still do all of the off-line stuff (conquest, POTM, Topps Now, etc.), but for on-line, it's BR for me.
What about you guys? Any differences between 20/21?
Ya, playing less RS than past year, doing more moments and conquest. The online play is frustrating and inconsistent.
Remember playing you last year, I was up and the last inning you come back and beat me. You messaged me after saying I should have won and all.
You are one of the good ones, keep at it and you will reach higher ranks!
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@genopolanco_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
@namtrah22_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
@washednd_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
I hate RS because I’ll reach legend and have to be miserable playing it. No desire to play a single game on legend. I get to 800 and stop
Yea man I feel this. I love HOF but I hate playing on legend. Its just not fun to me. I really think SDS needs to consider adding a 3rd level of HOF difficulty. IMO HOF should start at 600. Spring Training has no business being on Veteran difficulty, so they could simply make all-star from 0-599. Once I get to WS I just stop playing because I have no desire to hang around up there once I get there.
0-599 - All-Star
600-999 - HOF
1000+ - LegendThat’s how I would like to see it if we are sticking with the highest rated player deciding the difficulty.
I would be 100% fine with that. They would probably have to give out more points for a win or else Legend players will be mad about how long it takes to get out of HOF, but its definitely a start. Legend to me blows and only getting to play so many games on HOF before I have to start worrying about potentially playing on Legend sucks.
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@namtrah22_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
@genopolanco_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
@namtrah22_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
@washednd_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
I hate RS because I’ll reach legend and have to be miserable playing it. No desire to play a single game on legend. I get to 800 and stop
Yea man I feel this. I love HOF but I hate playing on legend. Its just not fun to me. I really think SDS needs to consider adding a 3rd level of HOF difficulty. IMO HOF should start at 600. Spring Training has no business being on Veteran difficulty, so they could simply make all-star from 0-599. Once I get to WS I just stop playing because I have no desire to hang around up there once I get there.
0-599 - All-Star
600-999 - HOF
1000+ - LegendThat’s how I would like to see it if we are sticking with the highest rated player deciding the difficulty.
I would be 100% fine with that. They would probably have to give out more points for a win or else Legend players will be mad about how long it takes to get out of HOF, but its definitely a start. Legend to me blows and only getting to play so many games on HOF before I have to start worrying about potentially playing on Legend sucks.
I agree I just hit 700 and now I’m like trying to savor my time. Milk it long enough before next season. Hitting 900+ basically just means no more RS til next season.
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@arvcpa_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
Last year was my first year playing DD. I played every mode, off-line and on-line. I did play RS pretty heavily. I was not that good, but worked to develop my skills and work towards Prestige programs.
This year, for on-line, I've focused much more on BR than RS. I get to 500 on RS to gather my free diamond. I don't think I'll ever get to the WS level, and don't want to beat my head against the wall.
With the change to the BR program this year, with more rewards, I find myself hanging out in that world a lot. I can get to the 100 point total in a month, short games, diverse lineups... I love it. I'll never go 12-0, but I can get to 8-9 wins per entry and complete most of the "missions".
I still do all of the off-line stuff (conquest, POTM, Topps Now, etc.), but for on-line, it's BR for me.
What about you guys? Any differences between 20/21?
I played 2000 games in ranked last year. This tear 30. I only play the USA conquest map over and over to parallel cards....and I love it. People online suck.
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Right there with you. Love BR this year and have got to 100 each season and hardly played LY. I max out Events and BR and then if I feel like it play some RS. I’m 18-0 but I stop playing before HOF each season. Not because I can’t hit it as if did fine in the HOF event but rather because this is supposed to be fun and those pitch speeds are stressful or at least require me not to have cocktails while playing. And yeah, not doing that….
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@genopolanco_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
Honestly the only difference for me is I actually find more enjoyment playing conquest and vs CPU. Mostly because I really love the parallel system they implemented.
I have to be on-call for my job some nights so it’s nice having something to keep my interest on those nights and not worry about having to quit out mid-game if I get called in.
I love the parallel's way more then the Ruby diamonds from last year. Whoever came up with this idea deserves a raise.
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I didn’t buy the game this year for the first time since ‘16. While ‘19 was fairly enjoyable at times and I liked the content after the terrible product that was ‘18, ‘20 was a miserable experience for me personally, almost as bad as ‘18 again. I’ve still watched streams and checked the forum here to see how things are going, but it seems to be pretty much more of the same in terms of online play.
Any improvements that have been made (PPP looks great and I’ve long been wishing for a stadium creator) are negated by the unrealistic and at times seemingly random nature of online play, which is what drove me away from the game in the first place. Until they can do something about the core gameplay mechanics, the other improvements are not going to be truly appreciated. -
@comebacklogic said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
to see how things are going,
Come back comeback!!!!
See what I did there? Hilarious.
P.S. We miss you.
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@washednd_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
I hate RS because I’ll reach legend and have to be miserable playing it. No desire to play a single game on legend. I get to 800 and stop
I play BR events and grind offline.
Is 800 legend? I thought it was HOF?
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@comebacklogic said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
I didn’t buy the game this year for the first time since ‘16. While ‘19 was fairly enjoyable at times and I liked the content after the terrible product that was ‘18, ‘20 was a miserable experience for me personally, almost as bad as ‘18 again. I’ve still watched streams and checked the forum here to see how things are going, but it seems to be pretty much more of the same in terms of online play.
Any improvements that have been made (PPP looks great and I’ve long been wishing for a stadium creator) are negated by the unrealistic and at times seemingly random nature of online play, which is what drove me away from the game in the first place. Until they can do something about the core gameplay mechanics, the other improvements are not going to be truly appreciated.I’ve been in your shoes and waited til May to buy and my opinion is the game is a lot better than what is being said. It’s like reading Yelp reviews. People aren’t really posting great things, they only post the bad and are usually way over dramatic.
But what about 20 made it so miserable for you?
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@codywolfgang_xbl said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
@raesone_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
I haven't. I've shifted my focus away from RS and towards BR since being "stuck" at home in Europe because of the pandemic. I get joy out of that, win or lose. I'll dive back into RS and start to compete again once I'm able to go back to the US. Connections are a ton better when I'm there.
You should try RS this year. I think the gameplay in the higher levels is much better than Br this year.
Yeah I will eventually, when I get to the US later this year.
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@lucas8181_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
I'm enjoying conquest more too, as a previous poster said. I always enjoyed conquest, but I never cared much for the USA map. I'm at 25 of the gold prospects, and plan to get them all. It's great for parallels, monthly programs, xp, etc. It's also great as a guy with a family. Too many times I start a RS game just to hear "Honey.....can you help me"
Holy smokes we have the same wife. I swear everytime I start a game the door opens and in comes the wife with the kids not far behind.
"Hey babe, when you get a minute can you...."
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@arvcpa_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
Last year was my first year playing DD. I played every mode, off-line and on-line. I did play RS pretty heavily. I was not that good, but worked to develop my skills and work towards Prestige programs.
This year, for on-line, I've focused much more on BR than RS. I get to 500 on RS to gather my free diamond. I don't think I'll ever get to the WS level, and don't want to beat my head against the wall.
With the change to the BR program this year, with more rewards, I find myself hanging out in that world a lot. I can get to the 100 point total in a month, short games, diverse lineups... I love it. I'll never go 12-0, but I can get to 8-9 wins per entry and complete most of the "missions".
I still do all of the off-line stuff (conquest, POTM, Topps Now, etc.), but for on-line, it's BR for me.
What about you guys? Any differences between 20/21?
Last year I was playing wayyy to much so this year I play ... More
... Lol for real I'm a fan of 9innings game so I like RS whatever the level and yes all star included ... but there so many stupid douche Fukc out there .... Last year I was frustrating trying to beat them but this year ... Pause, quit, get to another game so that's my little change ! And I'm almost in the 800 on a shnitty tv for the first time of my life ! -
@go4stros25_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
@lucas8181_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
I'm enjoying conquest more too, as a previous poster said. I always enjoyed conquest, but I never cared much for the USA map. I'm at 25 of the gold prospects, and plan to get them all. It's great for parallels, monthly programs, xp, etc. It's also great as a guy with a family. Too many times I start a RS game just to hear "Honey.....can you help me"
Holy smokes we have the same wife. I swear everytime I start a game the door opens and in comes the wife with the kids not far behind.
"Hey babe, when you get a minute can you...."
Wait...!?! The game allows you to have wife ?!?
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@genopolanco_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
@comebacklogic said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
I didn’t buy the game this year for the first time since ‘16. While ‘19 was fairly enjoyable at times and I liked the content after the terrible product that was ‘18, ‘20 was a miserable experience for me personally, almost as bad as ‘18 again. I’ve still watched streams and checked the forum here to see how things are going, but it seems to be pretty much more of the same in terms of online play.
Any improvements that have been made (PPP looks great and I’ve long been wishing for a stadium creator) are negated by the unrealistic and at times seemingly random nature of online play, which is what drove me away from the game in the first place. Until they can do something about the core gameplay mechanics, the other improvements are not going to be truly appreciated.I’ve been in your shoes and waited til May to buy and my opinion is the game is a lot better than what is being said. It’s like reading Yelp reviews. People aren’t really posting great things, they only post the bad and are usually way over dramatic.
But what about 20 made it so miserable for you?
Well, long answer (as always with me), I started in ‘16 and I played on a crappy TV with no game mode and I obviously sucked, but I liked the concept of DD and wanted to improve, So I returned for ‘17 and did somewhat better with naturally expected improvement over time.
So ‘18 I preordered, brought a monitor because everyone assured me the TV was holding me back aaaaaand - Of course, they dropped the ball. In the sense that it was an awful slow pitch game where everyone threw low off speed and you just popped up regardless, plus content was totally terrible and tedious. I wasn’t very happy, but given that the previous two games had been excellent, I figured it could be an unusually bad year, an outlier for the franchise. ‘19 seemed to confirm that, with everything from gameplay to content, while still far from perfect, vastly improved and headed in the right direction.
‘20 then, was expected to be pretty well received with further improvements because “we listened to the community” and so on. It simply wasn’t. They didn’t listen to a single word anyone said and in many ways, as a “pitching guy”, if you will (I’d say I get more satisfaction from plotting to have a batter hit into a double play and successfully executing that play, or pitching a well sequenced AB that results in a strikeout than I do from hitting a 500 foot homer), it was the worst baseball game I’ve ever played. There was literally nowhere you could throw a pitch that couldn’t potentially result in a ridiculous hit or home run, which isn’t at all realistic and made me not want to play the game at all.
In addition to this, several bugs recurred at launch that had been present in the game for at least two years previously, which really hammered home just how much of a copy/paste this game is from year to year. I also thought content was absolutely awful, in the opposite manner to ‘18. There were simply too many unnecessary versions of the same player, an over saturation of 99s, most of which weren’t even close to deserved on actual ratings and for me, that diminishes the sense of achievement you get from building an elite team. They also messed up badly when planning for things like the infinite queues to buy the 12-0 rewards (Not salty, I had - And still have - them all, just shows a lack of foresight) and the fact they gave us 60 finest choice packs that contained a selection of 3 choices, ensuring pointless duplicates galore.
It was another bad year for content and gameplay and that made 2 of 3 consecutive years the game had been garbage. With MLB The Show being literally the only game I play, when it came to upgrading to a PS5 and buying the same copy/paste game with the same unrealistic batted ball outcomes and point and click hitting mechanics, I took a long hard look at myself and refused to keep on paying for what was, on the balance of all known percentages, likely to be a substandard product that wouldn’t work correctly for some weeks post launch. Believe me, I took no pleasure from being right when the early access fiasco ensued and SDS sat silent while the community erupted, but I wasn’t surprised. Because on all known form, that’s exactly what SDS do.
I’d like to hope they can bring the game back to what originally enticed me in all those years ago, the kind of game where you can’t even touch the ball online, much less win a game, but you still want to take on the challenge and improve and play. The current state of the game isn’t much different to last year and is still trending in the wrong direction for me, even with the welcome addition of PPP, hitting is still ridiculous in so many ways from the streams and videos I’ve seen.a_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
@comebacklogic said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
to see how things are going,
Come back comeback!!!!
See what I did there? Hilarious.
P.S. We miss you.
Apparently I still feature heavily in Diamond Dynasty from what I read on here, however, everyone thinks I should be removed. -
Just like last year, I play a lot of conquest and RS! I’m getting a lot more wins this year because of the influx of Xbox players but now I’m in the 675-715 range which means you have to play on HOF which is not fun imo but yeah, I love the USA MAP because it gives you a chance to parallel your players and you get prospect packs that are going for a decent amount of stubs!
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@raesone_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
I haven't. I've shifted my focus away from RS and towards BR since being "stuck" at home in Europe because of the pandemic. I get joy out of that, win or lose. I'll dive back into RS and start to compete again once I'm able to go back to the US. Connections are a ton better when I'm there.
You are maybe the first person, who could try playing online games in The Show in Europe and USA. I was always thinking in how big disadvantage are players in Europe and it seems, it's significant.
I play much less online this year, because pitch speeds are different game to game. In one game I can hit DeGroms fb no problem and in the next game 94mph fb looks like a blur and I can't react
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Totally.
I didnt play 20
I am playing 21.
Hope that helps.
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@lewisnadasurf1_psn said in Have you changed how you play 21 vs 20?:
Totally.
I didnt play 20
I am playing 21.
Hope that helps.
You win for most concise, crystal-clear answer.
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I haven't played as much ranked as I did last year, but I'm playing a lot more BR with the introduction of the BR program.
I got up into HOF on ranked last week and it was immediately noticeable how much harder it is to hit this year. I made WS twice last year and once in 19, but feel like I'm really struggling. I've only played 3 or 4 HOF games so it's a tiny sample size, and I know I'll adjust once I focus on it more, but it's definitely a huge difference from 19 and 20's hitting experience.
