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  • johnny_reb34_PSNJ Offline
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    In light of the fact EA sports has been sued countless times. And settled out of court more times than we'll ever know for deceptive and fraudulent practices. I have no idea about SDS or Sony, but odds are there is some litigation involved there as well.

    But for transparency purposes and to protect themselves, somewhat, from legal hassles wouldn't it be more ethical for them just to blast a big label out similar to "This game is for fun, it is not a true sports simulation so results and outcomes will be randomized". I mean, they have the disclaimer about not playing too long because of headaches and all. They warn us about the gore and blood. Labels everywhere.

    Basically there are disclaimers all over the gaming world. The most prominent cases you'll hear about in the EA world is about the "loot boxes" and all the class actions suits brought against them for promoting, basically, online gambling for little kids. Some countries won't even allow EA games to be sold because of it. It's why they have odds on the packs indicating your chances of pulling those coveted cards. They had to be sued in order to inject some ethics and transparency.

    That, though, is tame to compared to all the class actions suits filed against them for liability regarding player depression and psychological side-effects (some pretty serious) resulting from deceptive marketing. Emotional distress through civil lawsuits.

    People do get pretty "involved" (for a better word) in these games and are driven by the human competition they trust is the foundation of the game. Especially some of the younger customers and more impressionable don't understand these games are all for fun with not a lot of emphasis on skill.

    I know back in college I took a corporate ethics course. To protect themselves (and possibly because they were ran by fundamentally good people) most of the Fortune 500 had whole legal teams that did nothing but investigate and guarantee transparency in marketing. In the long run the money spent saved millions/billions in liability suits.

    Just food for thought. I do love the game, but I understand what it is. Little Junior out there with some deep-seated issues anyway, might not have as healthy of an understanding. It would be a shame (unethical) to continually fuel the manipulation through posts suggesting they need to "get gud" and practice a lot. Just be up front.

    Drop the "tin-foil" replies to people that have serious concerns about WHY things happen the way they do in the game. This only reinforces a lack of ethics. I mean if a federal team of investigators did some serious snooping do you think they would determine that all suggestions about AI manipulation is unfounded?

    It's fine to talk up all the great missions, cards, etc. They are a fun element in the game. But don't tell people you don't know (so don't understand their level of mental maturity or stability) how to become accomplished at a game that isn't about skill.

    Not trying to be crabby, just trying to help.

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  • maskedgrappler_PSNM Offline
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    Sorry you lost

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  • johnny_reb34_PSNJ Offline
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    Lost what my friend? I'm just getting started. Every successful crusade starts with one upset person with connections, some bit of savvy, a legitimate gripe and, most of all, a whole lot of determination. I'm not talking about posting angry stuff out here. I've already got the reaction I expected, and filed it away.

    I'm done with that part. Good day.

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  • Nanthrax_1_PSNN Offline
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    Go outside. Get some sunlight

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  • KDClemson_PSNK Offline
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    Ramone threw in a line of code to make it harder specifically for johhny_reb34 to hit, lawsuit should be a slam dunk for him.

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  • chickun_legs_PSNC Offline
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    There’s a great deal of variance in the hitting outcomes this year. However despite that, there is an obvious degree of skill needed to win consistently. This is why some people have 60-5 records and most don’t.

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  • ChArTeRBuS_PSNC Offline
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    It’s just a video game, no need for a label that reads

    “This is not real, this is a simulation, you are not Babe Ruth, you are on your couch in 2021, not at yankee stadium in the early 1900s”

    All of that is common knowledge.

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    #8

    @charterbus_psn said in disclaimer label on sports "sim":

    It’s just a video game, no need for a label that reads

    “This is not real, this is a simulation, you are not Babe Ruth, you are on your couch in 2021, not at yankee stadium in the early 1900s”

    All of that is common knowledge.

    Oh really!? I thought I was actually in Verdansk, and being shot at when I was playing call of duty the other day

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  • KyleJaros88_PSNK Offline
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    @johnny_reb34_psn said in disclaimer label on sports "sim":

    In light of the fact EA sports has been sued countless times. And settled out of court more times than we'll ever know for deceptive and fraudulent practices. I have no idea about SDS or Sony, but odds are there is some litigation involved there as well.

    But for transparency purposes and to protect themselves, somewhat, from legal hassles wouldn't it be more ethical for them just to blast a big label out similar to "This game is for fun, it is not a true sports simulation so results and outcomes will be randomized". I mean, they have the disclaimer about not playing too long because of headaches and all. They warn us about the gore and blood. Labels everywhere.

    Basically there are disclaimers all over the gaming world. The most prominent cases you'll hear about in the EA world is about the "loot boxes" and all the class actions suits brought against them for promoting, basically, online gambling for little kids. Some countries won't even allow EA games to be sold because of it. It's why they have odds on the packs indicating your chances of pulling those coveted cards. They had to be sued in order to inject some ethics and transparency.

    That, though, is tame to compared to all the class actions suits filed against them for liability regarding player depression and psychological side-effects (some pretty serious) resulting from deceptive marketing. Emotional distress through civil lawsuits.

    People do get pretty "involved" (for a better word) in these games and are driven by the human competition they trust is the foundation of the game. Especially some of the younger customers and more impressionable don't understand these games are all for fun with not a lot of emphasis on skill.

    I know back in college I took a corporate ethics course. To protect themselves (and possibly because they were ran by fundamentally good people) most of the Fortune 500 had whole legal teams that did nothing but investigate and guarantee transparency in marketing. In the long run the money spent saved millions/billions in liability suits.

    Just food for thought. I do love the game, but I understand what it is. Little Junior out there with some deep-seated issues anyway, might not have as healthy of an understanding. It would be a shame (unethical) to continually fuel the manipulation through posts suggesting they need to "get gud" and practice a lot. Just be up front.

    Drop the "tin-foil" replies to people that have serious concerns about WHY things happen the way they do in the game. This only reinforces a lack of ethics. I mean if a federal team of investigators did some serious snooping do you think they would determine that all suggestions about AI manipulation is unfounded?

    It's fine to talk up all the great missions, cards, etc. They are a fun element in the game. But don't tell people you don't know (so don't understand their level of mental maturity or stability) how to become accomplished at a game that isn't about skill.

    Not trying to be crabby, just trying to help.

    dude you write like 15 paragraphs of [censored] on here everyday. play the game if you are having fun. if you are not then find something else to do/play...I know, i know. you have some dumbass smart response

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    @kdclemson_psn said in disclaimer label on sports "sim":

    Ramone threw in a line of code to make it harder specifically for johhny_reb34 to hit, lawsuit should be a slam dunk for him.

    Gamer not found....hmmm

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  • KyleJaros88_PSNK Offline
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    @rebsfan_psn said in disclaimer label on sports "sim":

    @kdclemson_psn said in disclaimer label on sports "sim":

    Ramone threw in a line of code to make it harder specifically for johhny_reb34 to hit, lawsuit should be a slam dunk for him.

    Gamer not found....hmmm

    you didnt spell it correctly lol

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  • RebsFan_PSNR Offline
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    @kylejaros88_psn said in disclaimer label on sports "sim":

    @rebsfan_psn said in disclaimer label on sports "sim":

    @kdclemson_psn said in disclaimer label on sports "sim":

    Ramone threw in a line of code to make it harder specifically for johhny_reb34 to hit, lawsuit should be a slam dunk for him.

    Gamer not found....hmmm

    you didnt spell it correctly lol

    Well played..

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  • RebsFan_PSNR Offline
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    @johnny_reb34_psn said in disclaimer label on sports "sim":

    In light of the fact EA sports has been sued countless times. And settled out of court more times than we'll ever know for deceptive and fraudulent practices. I have no idea about SDS or Sony, but odds are there is some litigation involved there as well.

    But for transparency purposes and to protect themselves, somewhat, from legal hassles wouldn't it be more ethical for them just to blast a big label out similar to "This game is for fun, it is not a true sports simulation so results and outcomes will be randomized". I mean, they have the disclaimer about not playing too long because of headaches and all. They warn us about the gore and blood. Labels everywhere.

    Basically there are disclaimers all over the gaming world. The most prominent cases you'll hear about in the EA world is about the "loot boxes" and all the class actions suits brought against them for promoting, basically, online gambling for little kids. Some countries won't even allow EA games to be sold because of it. It's why they have odds on the packs indicating your chances of pulling those coveted cards. They had to be sued in order to inject some ethics and transparency.

    That, though, is tame to compared to all the class actions suits filed against them for liability regarding player depression and psychological side-effects (some pretty serious) resulting from deceptive marketing. Emotional distress through civil lawsuits.

    People do get pretty "involved" (for a better word) in these games and are driven by the human competition they trust is the foundation of the game. Especially some of the younger customers and more impressionable don't understand these games are all for fun with not a lot of emphasis on skill.

    I know back in college I took a corporate ethics course. To protect themselves (and possibly because they were ran by fundamentally good people) most of the Fortune 500 had whole legal teams that did nothing but investigate and guarantee transparency in marketing. In the long run the money spent saved millions/billions in liability suits.

    Just food for thought. I do love the game, but I understand what it is. Little Junior out there with some deep-seated issues anyway, might not have as healthy of an understanding. It would be a shame (unethical) to continually fuel the manipulation through posts suggesting they need to "get gud" and practice a lot. Just be up front.

    Drop the "tin-foil" replies to people that have serious concerns about WHY things happen the way they do in the game. This only reinforces a lack of ethics. I mean if a federal team of investigators did some serious snooping do you think they would determine that all suggestions about AI manipulation is unfounded?

    It's fine to talk up all the great missions, cards, etc. They are a fun element in the game. But don't tell people you don't know (so don't understand their level of mental maturity or stability) how to become accomplished at a game that isn't about skill.

    Not trying to be crabby, just trying to help.

    If you can't afford your medication, AstraZeneca may be able to help.

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    The kids having depressions because of this (or any other game) don’t need better labels, they need better parents...

    Daddy didn’t give attention, oh, to the fact that Mommy didn’t care...

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  • jerseylonghornJ Offline
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    @johnny_reb34_psn said in disclaimer label on sports "sim":

    In light of the fact EA sports has been sued countless times. And settled out of court more times than we'll ever know for deceptive and fraudulent practices. I have no idea about SDS or Sony, but odds are there is some litigation involved there as well.

    But for transparency purposes and to protect themselves, somewhat, from legal hassles wouldn't it be more ethical for them just to blast a big label out similar to "This game is for fun, it is not a true sports simulation so results and outcomes will be randomized". I mean, they have the disclaimer about not playing too long because of headaches and all. They warn us about the gore and blood. Labels everywhere.

    Basically there are disclaimers all over the gaming world. The most prominent cases you'll hear about in the EA world is about the "loot boxes" and all the class actions suits brought against them for promoting, basically, online gambling for little kids. Some countries won't even allow EA games to be sold because of it. It's why they have odds on the packs indicating your chances of pulling those coveted cards. They had to be sued in order to inject some ethics and transparency.

    That, though, is tame to compared to all the class actions suits filed against them for liability regarding player depression and psychological side-effects (some pretty serious) resulting from deceptive marketing. Emotional distress through civil lawsuits.

    People do get pretty "involved" (for a better word) in these games and are driven by the human competition they trust is the foundation of the game. Especially some of the younger customers and more impressionable don't understand these games are all for fun with not a lot of emphasis on skill.

    I know back in college I took a corporate ethics course. To protect themselves (and possibly because they were ran by fundamentally good people) most of the Fortune 500 had whole legal teams that did nothing but investigate and guarantee transparency in marketing. In the long run the money spent saved millions/billions in liability suits.

    Just food for thought. I do love the game, but I understand what it is. Little Junior out there with some deep-seated issues anyway, might not have as healthy of an understanding. It would be a shame (unethical) to continually fuel the manipulation through posts suggesting they need to "get gud" and practice a lot. Just be up front.

    Drop the "tin-foil" replies to people that have serious concerns about WHY things happen the way they do in the game. This only reinforces a lack of ethics. I mean if a federal team of investigators did some serious snooping do you think they would determine that all suggestions about AI manipulation is unfounded?

    It's fine to talk up all the great missions, cards, etc. They are a fun element in the game. But don't tell people you don't know (so don't understand their level of mental maturity or stability) how to become accomplished at a game that isn't about skill.

    Not trying to be crabby, just trying to help.

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    @yankblan_psn said in disclaimer label on sports "sim":

    The kids having depressions because of this (or any other game) don’t need better labels, they need better parents...

    Daddy didn’t give attention, oh, to the fact that Mommy didn’t care...

    1. Black
    2. Jeremy
    3. Rearviewmirror
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    I didn’t read all that but the game is random. If you don’t swing at junk pitches that’s the only skill everything else is controlled by the system. Your perception of pitch speeds, your swing timing, your swing window, your contact and your result. Anybody saying anything other than that is just lying to themselves.

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    @writetoshawn_psn said in disclaimer label on sports "sim":

    @yankblan_psn said in disclaimer label on sports "sim":

    The kids having depressions because of this (or any other game) don’t need better labels, they need better parents...

    Daddy didn’t give attention, oh, to the fact that Mommy didn’t care...

    Black > Jeremy

    Definitely; if I ever get a divorce, this song will be banned from my collection. It’s great but depressing even when I’m happy lol

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    @yankblan_psn said in disclaimer label on sports "sim":

    @writetoshawn_psn said in disclaimer label on sports "sim":

    @yankblan_psn said in disclaimer label on sports "sim":

    The kids having depressions because of this (or any other game) don’t need better labels, they need better parents...

    Daddy didn’t give attention, oh, to the fact that Mommy didn’t care...

    Black > Jeremy

    Definitely; if I ever get a divorce, this song will be banned from my collection. It’s great but depressing even when I’m happy lol

    All my pci
    Had been washed in black
    Popped up everything 😢

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