PINPOINT pitching ruined this game
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Baseball is a game of adjustments. I think, in this case, the adjustment needs to be learning to hit balls on the edges.
Personally, I don’t use pinpoint, but I agree that overall this year, even poor players seem much better at pitching.
That said, being able to hit your spots is not the only thing. I still face quite a few opponents who have very predictable sequences. In general, I think the ppp meta also leads to many players trying to make every pitch a dot on the edge. This also can lead to more walks and mistakes, or even just 3-0 pitches down the middle.
A surprising number of players do not challenge in hitter’s counts or even at all.
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@el-fiama-bianca_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@spyacht_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
i am totally agree with op and the size of the pci should become a stick to make it look like a real bat
It's already in the game... it's called wedge.
No, not really
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@gohardgrandpa said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
I don't use pinpoint. I've got a shaky right hand from nerve damage and when I use pinpoint it looks like someone gave a baby an etch a sketch.
Pinpoint has helped a ton of people. You see a lot of dots and painted corners now. It makes me feel better about being able to hit the ball decent when I know someone is using it.
Be grateful if you can use pinpoint, I use pulse and it blows but that's what I have to use to play the game. So I always have to get pitchers with really high control ratings
To me the fair criticism about pinpoint is you an actually have the tracing looking awful and still get a perfect release.
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I have always argued against more user input and less randomness because I knew this would happen. When I can paint corners with a silver pitcher just as well as a diamond pitcher while using PPP then the cards do not matter any longer. They might as well give all pitchers the same "per nines" as they have become meaningless. It does save me stubs though.
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@vipersneak_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
I have always argued against more user input and less randomness because I knew this would happen. When I can paint corners with a silver pitcher just as well as a diamond pitcher while using PPP then the cards do not matter any longer. They might as well give all pitchers the same "per nines" as they have become meaningless. It does save me stubs though.
This is exactly how I feel about the entire online portion of the game. Stats just don't matter other than SPEED. Speed is the only stat that seems to be obvious.
I have been trying to figure out the difference between competitive mode and simulation mode but can't seem to tell any difference because to use simulation mode you have to be offline and play the CPU. Online vs the CPU on competitive mode doesn't seem any different than offline in simulation mode.
As far as PPP, it needs to be a lot harder to throw a perfect pitch. All 3 stages should matter, not just the two release circles.
Bottom line - PPP is too easy for the results you get, make it harder, For example, with a level 99 pitcher, the pattern should be slow and easy, but with a level 55 pitcher it should be a lot faster and harder to accoplish.
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@buddyhightower_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@vipersneak_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
I have always argued against more user input and less randomness because I knew this would happen. When I can paint corners with a silver pitcher just as well as a diamond pitcher while using PPP then the cards do not matter any longer. They might as well give all pitchers the same "per nines" as they have become meaningless. It does save me stubs though.
This is exactly how I feel about the entire online portion of the game. Stats just don't matter other than SPEED. Speed is the only stat that seems to be obvious.
I have been trying to figure out the difference between competitive mode and simulation mode but can't seem to tell any difference because to use simulation mode you have to be offline and play the CPU. Online vs the CPU on competitive mode doesn't seem any different than offline in simulation mode.
As far as PPP, it needs to be a lot harder to throw a perfect pitch. All 3 stages should matter, not just the two release circles.
Bottom line - PPP is too easy for the results you get, make it harder, For example, with a level 99 pitcher, the pattern should be slow and easy, but with a level 55 pitcher it should be a lot faster and harder to accoplish.
I agree with this 100%
I think the best way to differentiate the pitchers would to have lower rated pitchers given much less leighway on the tracing/timing. Kinda like bad hitters have a really small PCI which = less room for error.
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- The most important part to consider: The hitter is trying to get on base, the pitcher wants an out. Both individuals have a right to winning and only one will come out on top.
- PinPoint is not a problem...could it be tweaked? Sure. But its not the biggest issue the game is facing.
- Pitchers have habits/patterns -- after a few innings, go to the pitch analysis to see what they are doing v lefty/righty hitters.
- You have to take pitches, especially when they are close to the black. The more pitches you see early, the more data is included in the pitching analysis. Plus the SP will eat pitches/burn energy.
- No your strengths and weakness -- I am pretty bad at working my PCI low to high, but good at working it high to low. So I tend to setup in the upper 1/2-1/3 of the strike zone.
- Shrink your strike zone: by half, by quadrants -- whatever fits the pitchers pattern.
- Be ok with not being right and do not force a swing unless down in the count. If I think a dude is going to pitch a high outside FB and they hit me with a low inside Slider that dots the lower corner...odds are I'm going to give him that pitch to live a little longer at the plate.
Finally, if you REALLY REALLY care enough to change the course of what your are upset with when playing online, PRACTICE. If you're sick of striking out on high and inside FB, go practice hitting high inside FB. Practicing to improve weaknesses is better than complaining to others to cater to your weaknesses.
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@t00muchham_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
- The most important part to consider: The hitter is trying to get on base, the pitcher wants an out. Both individuals have a right to winning and only one will come out on top.
- PinPoint is not a problem...could it be tweaked? Sure. But its not the biggest issue the game is facing.
- Pitchers have habits/patterns -- after a few innings, go to the pitch analysis to see what they are doing v lefty/righty hitters.
- You have to take pitches, especially when they are close to the black. The more pitches you see early, the more data is included in the pitching analysis. Plus the SP will eat pitches/burn energy.
- No your strengths and weakness -- I am pretty bad at working my PCI low to high, but good at working it high to low. So I tend to setup in the upper 1/2-1/3 of the strike zone.
- Shrink your strike zone: by half, by quadrants -- whatever fits the pitchers pattern.
- Be ok with not being right and do not force a swing unless down in the count. If I think a dude is going to pitch a high outside FB and they hit me with a low inside Slider that dots the lower corner...odds are I'm going to give him that pitch to live a little longer at the plate.
Finally, if you REALLY REALLY care enough to change the course of what your are upset with when playing online, PRACTICE. If you're sick of striking out on high and inside FB, go practice hitting high inside FB. Practicing to improve weaknesses is better than complaining to others to cater to your weaknesses.
How can you work a pitcher if PPP allows someone to constantly spot low and away sliders?
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@locutusofburg said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@t00muchham_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
- The most important part to consider: The hitter is trying to get on base, the pitcher wants an out. Both individuals have a right to winning and only one will come out on top.
- PinPoint is not a problem...could it be tweaked? Sure. But its not the biggest issue the game is facing.
- Pitchers have habits/patterns -- after a few innings, go to the pitch analysis to see what they are doing v lefty/righty hitters.
- You have to take pitches, especially when they are close to the black. The more pitches you see early, the more data is included in the pitching analysis. Plus the SP will eat pitches/burn energy.
- No your strengths and weakness -- I am pretty bad at working my PCI low to high, but good at working it high to low. So I tend to setup in the upper 1/2-1/3 of the strike zone.
- Shrink your strike zone: by half, by quadrants -- whatever fits the pitchers pattern.
- Be ok with not being right and do not force a swing unless down in the count. If I think a dude is going to pitch a high outside FB and they hit me with a low inside Slider that dots the lower corner...odds are I'm going to give him that pitch to live a little longer at the plate.
Finally, if you REALLY REALLY care enough to change the course of what your are upset with when playing online, PRACTICE. If you're sick of striking out on high and inside FB, go practice hitting high inside FB. Practicing to improve weaknesses is better than complaining to others to cater to your weaknesses.
How can you work a pitcher if PPP allows someone to constantly spot low and away sliders?
Please refer to line-item #3 -- picking up on pitcher patterns.
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@spyacht_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@el-fiama-bianca_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@spyacht_psn said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
i am totally agree with op and the size of the pci should become a stick to make it look like a real bat
It's already in the game... it's called wedge.
No, not really
https://i.imgur.com/t3uSaDw.jpgNot sure what [censored] game you're playing but that's not what I am playing lmao
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@t00muchham_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@locutusofburg said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@t00muchham_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
- The most important part to consider: The hitter is trying to get on base, the pitcher wants an out. Both individuals have a right to winning and only one will come out on top.
- PinPoint is not a problem...could it be tweaked? Sure. But its not the biggest issue the game is facing.
- Pitchers have habits/patterns -- after a few innings, go to the pitch analysis to see what they are doing v lefty/righty hitters.
- You have to take pitches, especially when they are close to the black. The more pitches you see early, the more data is included in the pitching analysis. Plus the SP will eat pitches/burn energy.
- No your strengths and weakness -- I am pretty bad at working my PCI low to high, but good at working it high to low. So I tend to setup in the upper 1/2-1/3 of the strike zone.
- Shrink your strike zone: by half, by quadrants -- whatever fits the pitchers pattern.
- Be ok with not being right and do not force a swing unless down in the count. If I think a dude is going to pitch a high outside FB and they hit me with a low inside Slider that dots the lower corner...odds are I'm going to give him that pitch to live a little longer at the plate.
Finally, if you REALLY REALLY care enough to change the course of what your are upset with when playing online, PRACTICE. If you're sick of striking out on high and inside FB, go practice hitting high inside FB. Practicing to improve weaknesses is better than complaining to others to cater to your weaknesses.
How can you work a pitcher if PPP allows someone to constantly spot low and away sliders?
Please refer to line-item #3 -- picking up on pitcher patterns.
Picking up on pitcher patterns does very little if every pitch is spotted on the low outside corner.
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@t00muchham_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
- The most important part to consider: The hitter is trying to get on base, the pitcher wants an out. Both individuals have a right to winning and only one will come out on top.
- PinPoint is not a problem...could it be tweaked? Sure. But its not the biggest issue the game is facing.
- Pitchers have habits/patterns -- after a few innings, go to the pitch analysis to see what they are doing v lefty/righty hitters.
- You have to take pitches, especially when they are close to the black. The more pitches you see early, the more data is included in the pitching analysis. Plus the SP will eat pitches/burn energy.
- No your strengths and weakness -- I am pretty bad at working my PCI low to high, but good at working it high to low. So I tend to setup in the upper 1/2-1/3 of the strike zone.
- Shrink your strike zone: by half, by quadrants -- whatever fits the pitchers pattern.
- Be ok with not being right and do not force a swing unless down in the count. If I think a dude is going to pitch a high outside FB and they hit me with a low inside Slider that dots the lower corner...odds are I'm going to give him that pitch to live a little longer at the plate.
Finally, if you REALLY REALLY care enough to change the course of what your are upset with when playing online, PRACTICE. If you're sick of striking out on high and inside FB, go practice hitting high inside FB. Practicing to improve weaknesses is better than complaining to others to cater to your weaknesses.
Great points but all the things you listed are common sense approaches that a baseball player would make/take. This forum is 78% pimple poppers who want everything gift wrapped for them. That's why companies like SDS are fighting a never ending battle. They can adjust something 100% exactly what the cry babies are crying about but they wont even be happy or appreciate that adjustment. Instead they'll move on down their ladder of their cry baby list of complaints/demands. Stick to Fortnite and World of Warcraft.
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@locutusofburg said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@t00muchham_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@locutusofburg said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@t00muchham_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
- The most important part to consider: The hitter is trying to get on base, the pitcher wants an out. Both individuals have a right to winning and only one will come out on top.
- PinPoint is not a problem...could it be tweaked? Sure. But its not the biggest issue the game is facing.
- Pitchers have habits/patterns -- after a few innings, go to the pitch analysis to see what they are doing v lefty/righty hitters.
- You have to take pitches, especially when they are close to the black. The more pitches you see early, the more data is included in the pitching analysis. Plus the SP will eat pitches/burn energy.
- No your strengths and weakness -- I am pretty bad at working my PCI low to high, but good at working it high to low. So I tend to setup in the upper 1/2-1/3 of the strike zone.
- Shrink your strike zone: by half, by quadrants -- whatever fits the pitchers pattern.
- Be ok with not being right and do not force a swing unless down in the count. If I think a dude is going to pitch a high outside FB and they hit me with a low inside Slider that dots the lower corner...odds are I'm going to give him that pitch to live a little longer at the plate.
Finally, if you REALLY REALLY care enough to change the course of what your are upset with when playing online, PRACTICE. If you're sick of striking out on high and inside FB, go practice hitting high inside FB. Practicing to improve weaknesses is better than complaining to others to cater to your weaknesses.
How can you work a pitcher if PPP allows someone to constantly spot low and away sliders?
Please refer to line-item #3 -- picking up on pitcher patterns.
Picking up on pitcher patterns does very little if every pitch is spotted on the low outside corner.
Start your PCI down in that corner then DURRRRRRRR
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@el-fiama-bianca_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@t00muchham_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
- The most important part to consider: The hitter is trying to get on base, the pitcher wants an out. Both individuals have a right to winning and only one will come out on top.
- PinPoint is not a problem...could it be tweaked? Sure. But its not the biggest issue the game is facing.
- Pitchers have habits/patterns -- after a few innings, go to the pitch analysis to see what they are doing v lefty/righty hitters.
- You have to take pitches, especially when they are close to the black. The more pitches you see early, the more data is included in the pitching analysis. Plus the SP will eat pitches/burn energy.
- No your strengths and weakness -- I am pretty bad at working my PCI low to high, but good at working it high to low. So I tend to setup in the upper 1/2-1/3 of the strike zone.
- Shrink your strike zone: by half, by quadrants -- whatever fits the pitchers pattern.
- Be ok with not being right and do not force a swing unless down in the count. If I think a dude is going to pitch a high outside FB and they hit me with a low inside Slider that dots the lower corner...odds are I'm going to give him that pitch to live a little longer at the plate.
Finally, if you REALLY REALLY care enough to change the course of what your are upset with when playing online, PRACTICE. If you're sick of striking out on high and inside FB, go practice hitting high inside FB. Practicing to improve weaknesses is better than complaining to others to cater to your weaknesses.
Great points but all the things you listed are common sense approaches that a baseball player would make/take. This forum is 78% pimple poppers who want everything gift wrapped for them. That's why companies like SDS are fighting a never ending battle. They can adjust something 100% exactly what the cry babies are crying about but they wont even be happy or appreciate that adjustment. Instead they'll move on down their ladder of their cry baby list of complaints/demands. Stick to Fortnite and World of Warcraft.
Being able to throw a pitch in the exact same spot every time is no different than spamming the same play in madden over and over.
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@locutusofburg said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@el-fiama-bianca_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@t00muchham_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
- The most important part to consider: The hitter is trying to get on base, the pitcher wants an out. Both individuals have a right to winning and only one will come out on top.
- PinPoint is not a problem...could it be tweaked? Sure. But its not the biggest issue the game is facing.
- Pitchers have habits/patterns -- after a few innings, go to the pitch analysis to see what they are doing v lefty/righty hitters.
- You have to take pitches, especially when they are close to the black. The more pitches you see early, the more data is included in the pitching analysis. Plus the SP will eat pitches/burn energy.
- No your strengths and weakness -- I am pretty bad at working my PCI low to high, but good at working it high to low. So I tend to setup in the upper 1/2-1/3 of the strike zone.
- Shrink your strike zone: by half, by quadrants -- whatever fits the pitchers pattern.
- Be ok with not being right and do not force a swing unless down in the count. If I think a dude is going to pitch a high outside FB and they hit me with a low inside Slider that dots the lower corner...odds are I'm going to give him that pitch to live a little longer at the plate.
Finally, if you REALLY REALLY care enough to change the course of what your are upset with when playing online, PRACTICE. If you're sick of striking out on high and inside FB, go practice hitting high inside FB. Practicing to improve weaknesses is better than complaining to others to cater to your weaknesses.
Great points but all the things you listed are common sense approaches that a baseball player would make/take. This forum is 78% pimple poppers who want everything gift wrapped for them. That's why companies like SDS are fighting a never ending battle. They can adjust something 100% exactly what the cry babies are crying about but they wont even be happy or appreciate that adjustment. Instead they'll move on down their ladder of their cry baby list of complaints/demands. Stick to Fortnite and World of Warcraft.
Being able to throw a pitch in the exact same spot every time is no different than spamming the same play in madden over and over.
If you get beat by someone spamming the same play over and over that's on you. Seriously do you people have a complaint about everything??!!!!
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It's a video game. It tries to replicate real life as much as possible but sometimes there's limitations...
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The things you are crying about are easily countered. You just dont want to put the effort into finding out how.
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@locutusofburg said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@t00muchham_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@locutusofburg said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@t00muchham_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
- The most important part to consider: The hitter is trying to get on base, the pitcher wants an out. Both individuals have a right to winning and only one will come out on top.
- PinPoint is not a problem...could it be tweaked? Sure. But its not the biggest issue the game is facing.
- Pitchers have habits/patterns -- after a few innings, go to the pitch analysis to see what they are doing v lefty/righty hitters.
- You have to take pitches, especially when they are close to the black. The more pitches you see early, the more data is included in the pitching analysis. Plus the SP will eat pitches/burn energy.
- No your strengths and weakness -- I am pretty bad at working my PCI low to high, but good at working it high to low. So I tend to setup in the upper 1/2-1/3 of the strike zone.
- Shrink your strike zone: by half, by quadrants -- whatever fits the pitchers pattern.
- Be ok with not being right and do not force a swing unless down in the count. If I think a dude is going to pitch a high outside FB and they hit me with a low inside Slider that dots the lower corner...odds are I'm going to give him that pitch to live a little longer at the plate.
Finally, if you REALLY REALLY care enough to change the course of what your are upset with when playing online, PRACTICE. If you're sick of striking out on high and inside FB, go practice hitting high inside FB. Practicing to improve weaknesses is better than complaining to others to cater to your weaknesses.
How can you work a pitcher if PPP allows someone to constantly spot low and away sliders?
Please refer to line-item #3 -- picking up on pitcher patterns.
Picking up on pitcher patterns does very little if every pitch is spotted on the low outside corner.
GOB's not onboard...
If EVERY pitch is spotted on the low-outside corner, then you just picked up on the pattern...I would recommend placing the PCI low and outside.
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@locutusofburg said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@el-fiama-bianca_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@t00muchham_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
- The most important part to consider: The hitter is trying to get on base, the pitcher wants an out. Both individuals have a right to winning and only one will come out on top.
- PinPoint is not a problem...could it be tweaked? Sure. But its not the biggest issue the game is facing.
- Pitchers have habits/patterns -- after a few innings, go to the pitch analysis to see what they are doing v lefty/righty hitters.
- You have to take pitches, especially when they are close to the black. The more pitches you see early, the more data is included in the pitching analysis. Plus the SP will eat pitches/burn energy.
- No your strengths and weakness -- I am pretty bad at working my PCI low to high, but good at working it high to low. So I tend to setup in the upper 1/2-1/3 of the strike zone.
- Shrink your strike zone: by half, by quadrants -- whatever fits the pitchers pattern.
- Be ok with not being right and do not force a swing unless down in the count. If I think a dude is going to pitch a high outside FB and they hit me with a low inside Slider that dots the lower corner...odds are I'm going to give him that pitch to live a little longer at the plate.
Finally, if you REALLY REALLY care enough to change the course of what your are upset with when playing online, PRACTICE. If you're sick of striking out on high and inside FB, go practice hitting high inside FB. Practicing to improve weaknesses is better than complaining to others to cater to your weaknesses.
Great points but all the things you listed are common sense approaches that a baseball player would make/take. This forum is 78% pimple poppers who want everything gift wrapped for them. That's why companies like SDS are fighting a never ending battle. They can adjust something 100% exactly what the cry babies are crying about but they wont even be happy or appreciate that adjustment. Instead they'll move on down their ladder of their cry baby list of complaints/demands. Stick to Fortnite and World of Warcraft.
Being able to throw a pitch in the exact same spot every time is no different than spamming the same play in madden over and over.
Which is why you play LB or S to prevent play spamming in madden. Now does playing those positions take practice, some Football IQ and Skill? Yes.
Weird...its kind of like MLB: TS...requiring practice, some IQ and skill.
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Think it’s important to remember it is still a video game, you wouldn’t want it to be exactly like real life or we’d be playing 3 hour games. This thread does make me feel tempted to try out pinpoint pitching though, I’ve always been a pulse kind of guy myself.
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@locutusofburg said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@t00muchham_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@locutusofburg said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
@t00muchham_xbl said in PINPOINT pitching ruined this game:
- The most important part to consider: The hitter is trying to get on base, the pitcher wants an out. Both individuals have a right to winning and only one will come out on top.
- PinPoint is not a problem...could it be tweaked? Sure. But its not the biggest issue the game is facing.
- Pitchers have habits/patterns -- after a few innings, go to the pitch analysis to see what they are doing v lefty/righty hitters.
- You have to take pitches, especially when they are close to the black. The more pitches you see early, the more data is included in the pitching analysis. Plus the SP will eat pitches/burn energy.
- No your strengths and weakness -- I am pretty bad at working my PCI low to high, but good at working it high to low. So I tend to setup in the upper 1/2-1/3 of the strike zone.
- Shrink your strike zone: by half, by quadrants -- whatever fits the pitchers pattern.
- Be ok with not being right and do not force a swing unless down in the count. If I think a dude is going to pitch a high outside FB and they hit me with a low inside Slider that dots the lower corner...odds are I'm going to give him that pitch to live a little longer at the plate.
Finally, if you REALLY REALLY care enough to change the course of what your are upset with when playing online, PRACTICE. If you're sick of striking out on high and inside FB, go practice hitting high inside FB. Practicing to improve weaknesses is better than complaining to others to cater to your weaknesses.
How can you work a pitcher if PPP allows someone to constantly spot low and away sliders?
Please refer to line-item #3 -- picking up on pitcher patterns.
Picking up on pitcher patterns does very little if every pitch is spotted on the low outside corner.
Park your PCI on the corner and wait then....
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My contribution to this thread will be short and sweet: I've always preferred meter and will continue to use meter. Don't care if I don't get any higher than 700 in RS.
I'm content.
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