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@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
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@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
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@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
It's a skilless joke and is the epitome of what ruins this game for grown folks, those who actually played ball and/or the true fans.
I have not seen that much arrogance and self importance in one sentence in quite a long time. Congrats.
It's a video game. It is meant to be fun for all players. Get over it.
? Strange comment.
Fyi I was throwin'
( not throw-ing )
2 finger side armed curve balls and full float true knuckle balls before most of you kids own dad was born probably.There is No arrogance in that statement in the slightest. I am quite a humble man.
It is a fact and thus why someone (* other than me) started this thread.The 2 hitting options of discussion are no way a comparison in any shape or form thus they need to be in two seperated categories or at least with a toggle option to isolate the different skill sets so the game is more enjoyable for the players who desire such.
Go outside and get daddy to throw you an under handed pitch and just swing a choked up real bat without aiming at the ball !
Who is hitting with the bat when any contact is made.
??.
Ha..the pitcher is the one hitting a bat, not the batters bat hitting a pitch !
Bass- ackwards and has no resemblance to any ball I was ever a part of.First, I think you need to reacquaint yourself with the definition of humble.
Secondly, you have not made a comment yet about directional hitting that has not been belittling or demeaning to those who use it. You are building yourself up by tearing others down. Decidedly not humble.
By the way, there are folks over at the Operation Sports forums who will insinuate you are a child and not a true fan because you play DD and not Franchise.
It is all a matter of perspective and of course and neither you or they are right.
No belittling.
Just FACTS.
Only thing is that the 2 forms of play need to be seperated by user choice just as guess pitch is.A chess board has no marbles.
"A chess board has no marbles" is a false equivalent. If people were trying to pitch footballs or hit a pitch with a hockey stick, your wonderful quote would fit. What this comes down to is people getting angry because they are losing/have lost when they feel they should win because of how their opponent plays.
- Some teams use small ball to win (Baseball)
- Some teams want to hit gappers and HRs (Baseball)
- Some teams run the wing-t (Football)
- Some teams go empty and throw (Football)
- Live and die by the three (basketball)
- Get inside for the easy score/foul (basketball)
- Using directional hitting (The Show)
- Using Zone Hitting (The Show)
I do not hear anyone complaining that throwing the ball 40 times "isn't football" or that shooting 3s isn't basketball. So I find it pretty rich to have a gamer come on a baseball video game forum and tell people how they should play and how one way of playing shouldn't be allowed in competition. When fact is that their preferred way of hitting (zone hitting) doesn't accurately simulate hitting a baseball either.
So quit your complaining. When the servers are back-up, login, and do what you do: Stair down Rizzo's crotch from your Strike Zone Camera and act like you're amazing because you're moving a curser around a square.
FYI - Before you start laying claim that I use directional, I am a zone hitter. I find the arrogance of PCI users hilarious. Get over yourselves.
Your comparisons are ridiculous haha
Directional is cpu controlled aiming..
In madden itd be like lettung the cpu throw for you....run for you etc. All you do is snap.
Itd be like an online shooter and using aimbot and auto aim.
You do still know you have to be accurate in your swing and direction of the bat to be successful right? You can still swing and miss at a ball down the plate if you are early or late and you can still miss a ball if your directional swing is up and in but the ball is down and away. You sound like a dope man.
You have no idea how directional works and been using it for 3+ years? Hahaha
Poor wooderboy relies on directional to compete cuz he cant follow the ball w the pci.
Feel free to add me and I’ll show you just how well I know it donut boy
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@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@thewooderboy_mlbts said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@t00muchham_xbl said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
It's a skilless joke and is the epitome of what ruins this game for grown folks, those who actually played ball and/or the true fans.
I have not seen that much arrogance and self importance in one sentence in quite a long time. Congrats.
It's a video game. It is meant to be fun for all players. Get over it.
? Strange comment.
Fyi I was throwin'
( not throw-ing )
2 finger side armed curve balls and full float true knuckle balls before most of you kids own dad was born probably.There is No arrogance in that statement in the slightest. I am quite a humble man.
It is a fact and thus why someone (* other than me) started this thread.The 2 hitting options of discussion are no way a comparison in any shape or form thus they need to be in two seperated categories or at least with a toggle option to isolate the different skill sets so the game is more enjoyable for the players who desire such.
Go outside and get daddy to throw you an under handed pitch and just swing a choked up real bat without aiming at the ball !
Who is hitting with the bat when any contact is made.
??.
Ha..the pitcher is the one hitting a bat, not the batters bat hitting a pitch !
Bass- ackwards and has no resemblance to any ball I was ever a part of.First, I think you need to reacquaint yourself with the definition of humble.
Secondly, you have not made a comment yet about directional hitting that has not been belittling or demeaning to those who use it. You are building yourself up by tearing others down. Decidedly not humble.
By the way, there are folks over at the Operation Sports forums who will insinuate you are a child and not a true fan because you play DD and not Franchise.
It is all a matter of perspective and of course and neither you or they are right.
No belittling.
Just FACTS.
Only thing is that the 2 forms of play need to be seperated by user choice just as guess pitch is.A chess board has no marbles.
"A chess board has no marbles" is a false equivalent. If people were trying to pitch footballs or hit a pitch with a hockey stick, your wonderful quote would fit. What this comes down to is people getting angry because they are losing/have lost when they feel they should win because of how their opponent plays.
- Some teams use small ball to win (Baseball)
- Some teams want to hit gappers and HRs (Baseball)
- Some teams run the wing-t (Football)
- Some teams go empty and throw (Football)
- Live and die by the three (basketball)
- Get inside for the easy score/foul (basketball)
- Using directional hitting (The Show)
- Using Zone Hitting (The Show)
I do not hear anyone complaining that throwing the ball 40 times "isn't football" or that shooting 3s isn't basketball. So I find it pretty rich to have a gamer come on a baseball video game forum and tell people how they should play and how one way of playing shouldn't be allowed in competition. When fact is that their preferred way of hitting (zone hitting) doesn't accurately simulate hitting a baseball either.
So quit your complaining. When the servers are back-up, login, and do what you do: Stair down Rizzo's crotch from your Strike Zone Camera and act like you're amazing because you're moving a curser around a square.
FYI - Before you start laying claim that I use directional, I am a zone hitter. I find the arrogance of PCI users hilarious. Get over yourselves.
Your comparisons are ridiculous haha
Directional is cpu controlled aiming..
In madden itd be like lettung the cpu throw for you....run for you etc. All you do is snap.
Itd be like an online shooter and using aimbot and auto aim.
You do still know you have to be accurate in your swing and direction of the bat to be successful right? You can still swing and miss at a ball down the plate if you are early or late and you can still miss a ball if your directional swing is up and in but the ball is down and away. You sound like a dope man.
False..if it worked that way maybe...but holding up just influences fly ball. You have no idea what youre talking about.
W zone you can have perfect timing and miss.....thatd never happen w directional.
This isn’t true. I get that you hate directional but you really should learn more about it (actually try it on high levels) before you argue a point you just are plain wrong about.
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@xxdeathreyxx_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@thewooderboy_mlbts said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@t00muchham_xbl said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
It's a skilless joke and is the epitome of what ruins this game for grown folks, those who actually played ball and/or the true fans.
I have not seen that much arrogance and self importance in one sentence in quite a long time. Congrats.
It's a video game. It is meant to be fun for all players. Get over it.
? Strange comment.
Fyi I was throwin'
( not throw-ing )
2 finger side armed curve balls and full float true knuckle balls before most of you kids own dad was born probably.There is No arrogance in that statement in the slightest. I am quite a humble man.
It is a fact and thus why someone (* other than me) started this thread.The 2 hitting options of discussion are no way a comparison in any shape or form thus they need to be in two seperated categories or at least with a toggle option to isolate the different skill sets so the game is more enjoyable for the players who desire such.
Go outside and get daddy to throw you an under handed pitch and just swing a choked up real bat without aiming at the ball !
Who is hitting with the bat when any contact is made.
??.
Ha..the pitcher is the one hitting a bat, not the batters bat hitting a pitch !
Bass- ackwards and has no resemblance to any ball I was ever a part of.First, I think you need to reacquaint yourself with the definition of humble.
Secondly, you have not made a comment yet about directional hitting that has not been belittling or demeaning to those who use it. You are building yourself up by tearing others down. Decidedly not humble.
By the way, there are folks over at the Operation Sports forums who will insinuate you are a child and not a true fan because you play DD and not Franchise.
It is all a matter of perspective and of course and neither you or they are right.
No belittling.
Just FACTS.
Only thing is that the 2 forms of play need to be seperated by user choice just as guess pitch is.A chess board has no marbles.
"A chess board has no marbles" is a false equivalent. If people were trying to pitch footballs or hit a pitch with a hockey stick, your wonderful quote would fit. What this comes down to is people getting angry because they are losing/have lost when they feel they should win because of how their opponent plays.
- Some teams use small ball to win (Baseball)
- Some teams want to hit gappers and HRs (Baseball)
- Some teams run the wing-t (Football)
- Some teams go empty and throw (Football)
- Live and die by the three (basketball)
- Get inside for the easy score/foul (basketball)
- Using directional hitting (The Show)
- Using Zone Hitting (The Show)
I do not hear anyone complaining that throwing the ball 40 times "isn't football" or that shooting 3s isn't basketball. So I find it pretty rich to have a gamer come on a baseball video game forum and tell people how they should play and how one way of playing shouldn't be allowed in competition. When fact is that their preferred way of hitting (zone hitting) doesn't accurately simulate hitting a baseball either.
So quit your complaining. When the servers are back-up, login, and do what you do: Stair down Rizzo's crotch from your Strike Zone Camera and act like you're amazing because you're moving a curser around a square.
FYI - Before you start laying claim that I use directional, I am a zone hitter. I find the arrogance of PCI users hilarious. Get over yourselves.
Your comparisons are ridiculous haha
Directional is cpu controlled aiming..
In madden itd be like lettung the cpu throw for you....run for you etc. All you do is snap.
Itd be like an online shooter and using aimbot and auto aim.
You do still know you have to be accurate in your swing and direction of the bat to be successful right? You can still swing and miss at a ball down the plate if you are early or late and you can still miss a ball if your directional swing is up and in but the ball is down and away. You sound like a dope man.
False..if it worked that way maybe...but holding up just influences fly ball. You have no idea what youre talking about.
W zone you can have perfect timing and miss.....thatd never happen w directional.
This isn’t true. I get that you hate directional but you really should learn more about it (actually try it on high levels) before you argue a point you just are plain wrong about.
Get ready to be called clueless and a flex about a lead developer posted about it on another forum.
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@sean_87__psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@Ikasnu_PSN
You would be mistaken on that, lol. I have made it between 700-830 every time I play RS enough.Kuddos to you bro that's impressive
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@thewooderboy_mlbts said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@thewooderboy_mlbts said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@thewooderboy_mlbts said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@t00muchham_xbl said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
It's a skilless joke and is the epitome of what ruins this game for grown folks, those who actually played ball and/or the true fans.
I have not seen that much arrogance and self importance in one sentence in quite a long time. Congrats.
It's a video game. It is meant to be fun for all players. Get over it.
? Strange comment.
Fyi I was throwin'
( not throw-ing )
2 finger side armed curve balls and full float true knuckle balls before most of you kids own dad was born probably.There is No arrogance in that statement in the slightest. I am quite a humble man.
It is a fact and thus why someone (* other than me) started this thread.The 2 hitting options of discussion are no way a comparison in any shape or form thus they need to be in two seperated categories or at least with a toggle option to isolate the different skill sets so the game is more enjoyable for the players who desire such.
Go outside and get daddy to throw you an under handed pitch and just swing a choked up real bat without aiming at the ball !
Who is hitting with the bat when any contact is made.
??.
Ha..the pitcher is the one hitting a bat, not the batters bat hitting a pitch !
Bass- ackwards and has no resemblance to any ball I was ever a part of.First, I think you need to reacquaint yourself with the definition of humble.
Secondly, you have not made a comment yet about directional hitting that has not been belittling or demeaning to those who use it. You are building yourself up by tearing others down. Decidedly not humble.
By the way, there are folks over at the Operation Sports forums who will insinuate you are a child and not a true fan because you play DD and not Franchise.
It is all a matter of perspective and of course and neither you or they are right.
No belittling.
Just FACTS.
Only thing is that the 2 forms of play need to be seperated by user choice just as guess pitch is.A chess board has no marbles.
"A chess board has no marbles" is a false equivalent. If people were trying to pitch footballs or hit a pitch with a hockey stick, your wonderful quote would fit. What this comes down to is people getting angry because they are losing/have lost when they feel they should win because of how their opponent plays.
- Some teams use small ball to win (Baseball)
- Some teams want to hit gappers and HRs (Baseball)
- Some teams run the wing-t (Football)
- Some teams go empty and throw (Football)
- Live and die by the three (basketball)
- Get inside for the easy score/foul (basketball)
- Using directional hitting (The Show)
- Using Zone Hitting (The Show)
I do not hear anyone complaining that throwing the ball 40 times "isn't football" or that shooting 3s isn't basketball. So I find it pretty rich to have a gamer come on a baseball video game forum and tell people how they should play and how one way of playing shouldn't be allowed in competition. When fact is that their preferred way of hitting (zone hitting) doesn't accurately simulate hitting a baseball either.
So quit your complaining. When the servers are back-up, login, and do what you do: Stair down Rizzo's crotch from your Strike Zone Camera and act like you're amazing because you're moving a curser around a square.
FYI - Before you start laying claim that I use directional, I am a zone hitter. I find the arrogance of PCI users hilarious. Get over yourselves.
Your comparisons are ridiculous haha
Directional is cpu controlled aiming..
In madden itd be like lettung the cpu throw for you....run for you etc. All you do is snap.
Itd be like an online shooter and using aimbot and auto aim.
You do still know you have to be accurate in your swing and direction of the bat to be successful right? You can still swing and miss at a ball down the plate if you are early or late and you can still miss a ball if your directional swing is up and in but the ball is down and away. You sound like a dope man.
False..if it worked that way maybe...but holding up just influences fly ball. You have no idea what youre talking about.
W zone you can have perfect timing and miss.....thatd never happen w directional.
So you don’t play with directional yet you’re trying to tell someone who’s only used directional for the last 3+ years how it works lmaoooo you’re a bleeping donut bro. You’re the biggest tool bag on this forum and that says a lot.
Donut?? Hahah
Listen. One of the lead developers said the cpu aims.... so yes letting the cpu aim for you is easier than actually having to put the pci on the ball. Directional is the easier of the two esp on any level below hof.
Maybe change the difficulty to hof for all of ranked seasons instead of progressing as you go.
Oh so youve never tried zone or you suck at it? Get gud at zone...isnt that answer??
Youve just nominated yourself as the biggest tool bag.
Im not telling you how it works..im telling you how SDS says it works....so youre saying the developers are wrong? Hahahahahaha
Take your L
Show the proof they said it donut
Read the thread..its been posted. But here ya go since youre a fool. Didnt realize i was dealing with a bunch of morons.
Grizz...how is showing the proof of how a developer says it works considered flexing? Haha
Directional or Zone is personal preference. As far as the main hitting engine goes, both interfaces are identical (Directional simulates your PCI placement for you and passes it to the engine). In Zone hitting you pick the timing and PCI location. In Directional you pick the timing and influence PCI location (or if you don't influence, it picks for you). For this reason it is better not to influence than to influence randomly and get it half right and half wrong (in that situation you are better off paying attention to location and taking pitches).
I would compare it to manual vs automatic shifting for driving. If you are below average in stick shifting, you are better off using automatic where it handles it for you. Your disadvantage is 'forgiven' though you gain nothing extra for it. If you are above average in stick shifting, you are better off using stick to 'earn' that advantage. This is why professional drivers have to use stick to compete at the highest levels because even a small edge adds up, but you can drive perfectly well either way. In fact automatic accelerates faster than manual and doesn't lose energy to shifts, losing out only because manual is smarter and more efficient in other ways.
For this reason, some players succeed more with Directional, others succeed more with Zone. As you approach Legend difficulty, it becomes more important to use Zone because you have 2 ways to outperform rather than 1 1/2. There is no inherent disadvantage to Directional but you miss out on 1/2 a way to shine. So Zone is not significantly more successful in general. For beginners, Directional is often more successful. To be precise, it depends on if you are above or below average in skill at PCI placement (compared to your 2 other skills - timing and take pitch).
Brian SCEA
Senior AI Programmer - MLB: The Show
https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show/966054-directional-hitting-mlb-show-20-a-2.html
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@xxdeathreyxx_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@thewooderboy_mlbts said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@t00muchham_xbl said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
It's a skilless joke and is the epitome of what ruins this game for grown folks, those who actually played ball and/or the true fans.
I have not seen that much arrogance and self importance in one sentence in quite a long time. Congrats.
It's a video game. It is meant to be fun for all players. Get over it.
? Strange comment.
Fyi I was throwin'
( not throw-ing )
2 finger side armed curve balls and full float true knuckle balls before most of you kids own dad was born probably.There is No arrogance in that statement in the slightest. I am quite a humble man.
It is a fact and thus why someone (* other than me) started this thread.The 2 hitting options of discussion are no way a comparison in any shape or form thus they need to be in two seperated categories or at least with a toggle option to isolate the different skill sets so the game is more enjoyable for the players who desire such.
Go outside and get daddy to throw you an under handed pitch and just swing a choked up real bat without aiming at the ball !
Who is hitting with the bat when any contact is made.
??.
Ha..the pitcher is the one hitting a bat, not the batters bat hitting a pitch !
Bass- ackwards and has no resemblance to any ball I was ever a part of.First, I think you need to reacquaint yourself with the definition of humble.
Secondly, you have not made a comment yet about directional hitting that has not been belittling or demeaning to those who use it. You are building yourself up by tearing others down. Decidedly not humble.
By the way, there are folks over at the Operation Sports forums who will insinuate you are a child and not a true fan because you play DD and not Franchise.
It is all a matter of perspective and of course and neither you or they are right.
No belittling.
Just FACTS.
Only thing is that the 2 forms of play need to be seperated by user choice just as guess pitch is.A chess board has no marbles.
"A chess board has no marbles" is a false equivalent. If people were trying to pitch footballs or hit a pitch with a hockey stick, your wonderful quote would fit. What this comes down to is people getting angry because they are losing/have lost when they feel they should win because of how their opponent plays.
- Some teams use small ball to win (Baseball)
- Some teams want to hit gappers and HRs (Baseball)
- Some teams run the wing-t (Football)
- Some teams go empty and throw (Football)
- Live and die by the three (basketball)
- Get inside for the easy score/foul (basketball)
- Using directional hitting (The Show)
- Using Zone Hitting (The Show)
I do not hear anyone complaining that throwing the ball 40 times "isn't football" or that shooting 3s isn't basketball. So I find it pretty rich to have a gamer come on a baseball video game forum and tell people how they should play and how one way of playing shouldn't be allowed in competition. When fact is that their preferred way of hitting (zone hitting) doesn't accurately simulate hitting a baseball either.
So quit your complaining. When the servers are back-up, login, and do what you do: Stair down Rizzo's crotch from your Strike Zone Camera and act like you're amazing because you're moving a curser around a square.
FYI - Before you start laying claim that I use directional, I am a zone hitter. I find the arrogance of PCI users hilarious. Get over yourselves.
Your comparisons are ridiculous haha
Directional is cpu controlled aiming..
In madden itd be like lettung the cpu throw for you....run for you etc. All you do is snap.
Itd be like an online shooter and using aimbot and auto aim.
You do still know you have to be accurate in your swing and direction of the bat to be successful right? You can still swing and miss at a ball down the plate if you are early or late and you can still miss a ball if your directional swing is up and in but the ball is down and away. You sound like a dope man.
False..if it worked that way maybe...but holding up just influences fly ball. You have no idea what youre talking about.
W zone you can have perfect timing and miss.....thatd never happen w directional.
This isn’t true. I get that you hate directional but you really should learn more about it (actually try it on high levels) before you argue a point you just are plain wrong about.
It is true...straight from developers mouth. Its exactly how directional works. You dont aim up or down...youre influencing the ball whether you want to hit a fly ball or a ground ball.
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@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@xxdeathreyxx_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@thewooderboy_mlbts said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@t00muchham_xbl said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
It's a skilless joke and is the epitome of what ruins this game for grown folks, those who actually played ball and/or the true fans.
I have not seen that much arrogance and self importance in one sentence in quite a long time. Congrats.
It's a video game. It is meant to be fun for all players. Get over it.
? Strange comment.
Fyi I was throwin'
( not throw-ing )
2 finger side armed curve balls and full float true knuckle balls before most of you kids own dad was born probably.There is No arrogance in that statement in the slightest. I am quite a humble man.
It is a fact and thus why someone (* other than me) started this thread.The 2 hitting options of discussion are no way a comparison in any shape or form thus they need to be in two seperated categories or at least with a toggle option to isolate the different skill sets so the game is more enjoyable for the players who desire such.
Go outside and get daddy to throw you an under handed pitch and just swing a choked up real bat without aiming at the ball !
Who is hitting with the bat when any contact is made.
??.
Ha..the pitcher is the one hitting a bat, not the batters bat hitting a pitch !
Bass- ackwards and has no resemblance to any ball I was ever a part of.First, I think you need to reacquaint yourself with the definition of humble.
Secondly, you have not made a comment yet about directional hitting that has not been belittling or demeaning to those who use it. You are building yourself up by tearing others down. Decidedly not humble.
By the way, there are folks over at the Operation Sports forums who will insinuate you are a child and not a true fan because you play DD and not Franchise.
It is all a matter of perspective and of course and neither you or they are right.
No belittling.
Just FACTS.
Only thing is that the 2 forms of play need to be seperated by user choice just as guess pitch is.A chess board has no marbles.
"A chess board has no marbles" is a false equivalent. If people were trying to pitch footballs or hit a pitch with a hockey stick, your wonderful quote would fit. What this comes down to is people getting angry because they are losing/have lost when they feel they should win because of how their opponent plays.
- Some teams use small ball to win (Baseball)
- Some teams want to hit gappers and HRs (Baseball)
- Some teams run the wing-t (Football)
- Some teams go empty and throw (Football)
- Live and die by the three (basketball)
- Get inside for the easy score/foul (basketball)
- Using directional hitting (The Show)
- Using Zone Hitting (The Show)
I do not hear anyone complaining that throwing the ball 40 times "isn't football" or that shooting 3s isn't basketball. So I find it pretty rich to have a gamer come on a baseball video game forum and tell people how they should play and how one way of playing shouldn't be allowed in competition. When fact is that their preferred way of hitting (zone hitting) doesn't accurately simulate hitting a baseball either.
So quit your complaining. When the servers are back-up, login, and do what you do: Stair down Rizzo's crotch from your Strike Zone Camera and act like you're amazing because you're moving a curser around a square.
FYI - Before you start laying claim that I use directional, I am a zone hitter. I find the arrogance of PCI users hilarious. Get over yourselves.
Your comparisons are ridiculous haha
Directional is cpu controlled aiming..
In madden itd be like lettung the cpu throw for you....run for you etc. All you do is snap.
Itd be like an online shooter and using aimbot and auto aim.
You do still know you have to be accurate in your swing and direction of the bat to be successful right? You can still swing and miss at a ball down the plate if you are early or late and you can still miss a ball if your directional swing is up and in but the ball is down and away. You sound like a dope man.
False..if it worked that way maybe...but holding up just influences fly ball. You have no idea what youre talking about.
W zone you can have perfect timing and miss.....thatd never happen w directional.
This isn’t true. I get that you hate directional but you really should learn more about it (actually try it on high levels) before you argue a point you just are plain wrong about.
It is true...straight from developers mouth. Its exactly how directional works. You dont aim up or down...youre influencing the ball whether you want to hit a fly ball or a ground ball.
So I was right. You’ve never used it on upper levels enough to find out for yourself. As expected.
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It's a skilless joke and is the epitome of what ruins this game for grown folks, those who actually played ball and/or the true fans.
I have not seen that much arrogance and self importance in one sentence in quite a long time. Congrats.
It's a video game. It is meant to be fun for all players. Get over it.
? Strange comment.
Fyi I was throwin'
( not throw-ing )
2 finger side armed curve balls and full float true knuckle balls before most of you kids own dad was born probably.There is No arrogance in that statement in the slightest. I am quite a humble man.
It is a fact and thus why someone (* other than me) started this thread.The 2 hitting options of discussion are no way a comparison in any shape or form thus they need to be in two seperated categories or at least with a toggle option to isolate the different skill sets so the game is more enjoyable for the players who desire such.
Go outside and get daddy to throw you an under handed pitch and just swing a choked up real bat without aiming at the ball !
Who is hitting with the bat when any contact is made.
??.
Ha..the pitcher is the one hitting a bat, not the batters bat hitting a pitch !
Bass- ackwards and has no resemblance to any ball I was ever a part of.First, I think you need to reacquaint yourself with the definition of humble.
Secondly, you have not made a comment yet about directional hitting that has not been belittling or demeaning to those who use it. You are building yourself up by tearing others down. Decidedly not humble.
By the way, there are folks over at the Operation Sports forums who will insinuate you are a child and not a true fan because you play DD and not Franchise.
It is all a matter of perspective and of course and neither you or they are right.
No belittling.
Just FACTS.
Only thing is that the 2 forms of play need to be seperated by user choice just as guess pitch is.A chess board has no marbles.
"A chess board has no marbles" is a false equivalent. If people were trying to pitch footballs or hit a pitch with a hockey stick, your wonderful quote would fit. What this comes down to is people getting angry because they are losing/have lost when they feel they should win because of how their opponent plays.
- Some teams use small ball to win (Baseball)
- Some teams want to hit gappers and HRs (Baseball)
- Some teams run the wing-t (Football)
- Some teams go empty and throw (Football)
- Live and die by the three (basketball)
- Get inside for the easy score/foul (basketball)
- Using directional hitting (The Show)
- Using Zone Hitting (The Show)
I do not hear anyone complaining that throwing the ball 40 times "isn't football" or that shooting 3s isn't basketball. So I find it pretty rich to have a gamer come on a baseball video game forum and tell people how they should play and how one way of playing shouldn't be allowed in competition. When fact is that their preferred way of hitting (zone hitting) doesn't accurately simulate hitting a baseball either.
So quit your complaining. When the servers are back-up, login, and do what you do: Stair down Rizzo's crotch from your Strike Zone Camera and act like you're amazing because you're moving a curser around a square.
FYI - Before you start laying claim that I use directional, I am a zone hitter. I find the arrogance of PCI users hilarious. Get over yourselves.
Your comparisons are ridiculous haha
Directional is cpu controlled aiming..
In madden itd be like lettung the cpu throw for you....run for you etc. All you do is snap.
Itd be like an online shooter and using aimbot and auto aim.
You do still know you have to be accurate in your swing and direction of the bat to be successful right? You can still swing and miss at a ball down the plate if you are early or late and you can still miss a ball if your directional swing is up and in but the ball is down and away. You sound like a dope man.
False..if it worked that way maybe...but holding up just influences fly ball. You have no idea what youre talking about.
W zone you can have perfect timing and miss.....thatd never happen w directional.
This isn’t true. I get that you hate directional but you really should learn more about it (actually try it on high levels) before you argue a point you just are plain wrong about.
It is true...straight from developers mouth. Its exactly how directional works. You dont aim up or down...youre influencing the ball whether you want to hit a fly ball or a ground ball.
So I was right. You’ve never used it on upper levels enough to find out for yourself. As expected.
In DD the lower levels are where its superior. Maybe [censored] read the entire thread.... all diamonds letting the cpu aim for you is trash. So you basically cant get gud at zone so rely on the AI to place the pci....and resorts to timing only.
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@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
Because they reward xp for hits and hrs etc...when it takes 0 skill to hit with this bullsh*t online and rewards garbage user play. Which then gives them more xp to be more garbage online. Hits where pci doesnt even reach..hrs off balls in dirt...its a freaking joke. Turn off that for online for 1000th time and for 4yrs running. Its a joke. This isnt rbi baseball.
Directional hitting does take skill. For someone like myself who has vision and post concussion issues, it's the only thing I can use to enjoy the game. Fortunately you have the skill to play something more challenging. I'm surprised that directional hitters are not matched against other directional players automatically. It's not really very fair to you to match them up with you.
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@jaytal6_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
Because they reward xp for hits and hrs etc...when it takes 0 skill to hit with this bullsh*t online and rewards garbage user play. Which then gives them more xp to be more garbage online. Hits where pci doesnt even reach..hrs off balls in dirt...its a freaking joke. Turn off that for online for 1000th time and for 4yrs running. Its a joke. This isnt rbi baseball.
Directional hitting does take skill. For someone like myself who has vision and post concussion issues, it's the only thing I can use to enjoy the game. Fortunately you have the skill to play something more challenging. I'm surprised that directional hitters are not matched against other directional players automatically. It's not really very fair to you to match them up with you.
See he gets it...all im saying is take it out of "competitive" settings...play vs the cpu w it. Concussions are no fun.
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@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@jaytal6_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
Because they reward xp for hits and hrs etc...when it takes 0 skill to hit with this bullsh*t online and rewards garbage user play. Which then gives them more xp to be more garbage online. Hits where pci doesnt even reach..hrs off balls in dirt...its a freaking joke. Turn off that for online for 1000th time and for 4yrs running. Its a joke. This isnt rbi baseball.
Directional hitting does take skill. For someone like myself who has vision and post concussion issues, it's the only thing I can use to enjoy the game. Fortunately you have the skill to play something more challenging. I'm surprised that directional hitters are not matched against other directional players automatically. It's not really very fair to you to match them up with you.
See he gets it...all im saying is take it out of "competitive" settings...play vs the cpu w it. Concussions are no fun.
No they are not. And I've had too many unfortunately.
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Pci is to much work. Directional and pulse pitching for the win.
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@joeselser_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
Pci is to much work. Directional and pulse pitching for the win.
You will die saying that.....Just watch the pitch release point from each pitcher, and you can have success 100% of the time!!!!
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@kylejaros88_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
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Inagine losing to someone using directional lmao
I guarantee you have and didnt even know it
An event game perhaps, but not likely in RS. Not likely at all.
thats a crazy assumption, if youre like most people youve played hundreds and hundreds of games every year for years...of course its happened. if someone beats you, you automatically assume they must be using zone? or they wouldnt have beaten you?
I assume everyone i play uses zone unless I'm sub 500 or in an event.
well then you assume wrong.
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i dont get the argument here. its pretty simple, the interface that requires more input from the user is going to be inherently more difficult. even if you take out the cpu aiming, whats going to be easier? hitting a single button or timing that button while also adjusting pci with the left stick. directional is definitely easier but i wouldnt say it gives anyone a huge advantage
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@ny_giants4_life said in Why directional is trash for online...:
i dont get the argument here. its pretty simple, the interface that requires more input from the user is going to be inherently more difficult. even if you take out the cpu aiming, whats going to be easier? hitting a single button or timing that button while also adjusting pci with the left stick. directional is definitely easier but i wouldnt say it gives anyone a huge advantage
If they set difficulty to hof or legend id agree.... but on lower levels its given an advantage when its all diamonds.
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@thewooderboy_mlbts said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@tmoneymill_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@thewooderboy_mlbts said in Why directional is trash for online...:
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@t00muchham_xbl said in Why directional is trash for online...:
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@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
It's a skilless joke and is the epitome of what ruins this game for grown folks, those who actually played ball and/or the true fans.
I have not seen that much arrogance and self importance in one sentence in quite a long time. Congrats.
It's a video game. It is meant to be fun for all players. Get over it.
? Strange comment.
Fyi I was throwin'
( not throw-ing )
2 finger side armed curve balls and full float true knuckle balls before most of you kids own dad was born probably.There is No arrogance in that statement in the slightest. I am quite a humble man.
It is a fact and thus why someone (* other than me) started this thread.The 2 hitting options of discussion are no way a comparison in any shape or form thus they need to be in two seperated categories or at least with a toggle option to isolate the different skill sets so the game is more enjoyable for the players who desire such.
Go outside and get daddy to throw you an under handed pitch and just swing a choked up real bat without aiming at the ball !
Who is hitting with the bat when any contact is made.
??.
Ha..the pitcher is the one hitting a bat, not the batters bat hitting a pitch !
Bass- ackwards and has no resemblance to any ball I was ever a part of.First, I think you need to reacquaint yourself with the definition of humble.
Secondly, you have not made a comment yet about directional hitting that has not been belittling or demeaning to those who use it. You are building yourself up by tearing others down. Decidedly not humble.
By the way, there are folks over at the Operation Sports forums who will insinuate you are a child and not a true fan because you play DD and not Franchise.
It is all a matter of perspective and of course and neither you or they are right.
No belittling.
Just FACTS.
Only thing is that the 2 forms of play need to be seperated by user choice just as guess pitch is.A chess board has no marbles.
"A chess board has no marbles" is a false equivalent. If people were trying to pitch footballs or hit a pitch with a hockey stick, your wonderful quote would fit. What this comes down to is people getting angry because they are losing/have lost when they feel they should win because of how their opponent plays.
- Some teams use small ball to win (Baseball)
- Some teams want to hit gappers and HRs (Baseball)
- Some teams run the wing-t (Football)
- Some teams go empty and throw (Football)
- Live and die by the three (basketball)
- Get inside for the easy score/foul (basketball)
- Using directional hitting (The Show)
- Using Zone Hitting (The Show)
I do not hear anyone complaining that throwing the ball 40 times "isn't football" or that shooting 3s isn't basketball. So I find it pretty rich to have a gamer come on a baseball video game forum and tell people how they should play and how one way of playing shouldn't be allowed in competition. When fact is that their preferred way of hitting (zone hitting) doesn't accurately simulate hitting a baseball either.
So quit your complaining. When the servers are back-up, login, and do what you do: Stair down Rizzo's crotch from your Strike Zone Camera and act like you're amazing because you're moving a curser around a square.
FYI - Before you start laying claim that I use directional, I am a zone hitter. I find the arrogance of PCI users hilarious. Get over yourselves.
Your comparisons are ridiculous haha
Directional is cpu controlled aiming..
In madden itd be like lettung the cpu throw for you....run for you etc. All you do is snap.
Itd be like an online shooter and using aimbot and auto aim.
You do still know you have to be accurate in your swing and direction of the bat to be successful right? You can still swing and miss at a ball down the plate if you are early or late and you can still miss a ball if your directional swing is up and in but the ball is down and away. You sound like a dope man.
False..if it worked that way maybe...but holding up just influences fly ball. You have no idea what youre talking about.
W zone you can have perfect timing and miss.....thatd never happen w directional.
So you don’t play with directional yet you’re trying to tell someone who’s only used directional for the last 3+ years how it works lmaoooo you’re a bleeping donut bro. You’re the biggest tool bag on this forum and that says a lot.
Donut?? Hahah
Listen. One of the lead developers said the cpu aims.... so yes letting the cpu aim for you is easier than actually having to put the pci on the ball. Directional is the easier of the two esp on any level below hof.
Maybe change the difficulty to hof for all of ranked seasons instead of progressing as you go.
Oh so youve never tried zone or you suck at it? Get gud at zone...isnt that answer??
Youve just nominated yourself as the biggest tool bag.
Im not telling you how it works..im telling you how SDS says it works....so youre saying the developers are wrong? Hahahahahaha
Take your L
Show the proof they said it donut
Read the thread..its been posted. But here ya go since youre a fool. Didnt realize i was dealing with a bunch of morons.
Grizz...how is showing the proof of how a developer says it works considered flexing? Haha
Directional or Zone is personal preference. As far as the main hitting engine goes, both interfaces are identical (Directional simulates your PCI placement for you and passes it to the engine). In Zone hitting you pick the timing and PCI location. In Directional you pick the timing and influence PCI location (or if you don't influence, it picks for you). For this reason it is better not to influence than to influence randomly and get it half right and half wrong (in that situation you are better off paying attention to location and taking pitches).
I would compare it to manual vs automatic shifting for driving. If you are below average in stick shifting, you are better off using automatic where it handles it for you. Your disadvantage is 'forgiven' though you gain nothing extra for it. If you are above average in stick shifting, you are better off using stick to 'earn' that advantage. This is why professional drivers have to use stick to compete at the highest levels because even a small edge adds up, but you can drive perfectly well either way. In fact automatic accelerates faster than manual and doesn't lose energy to shifts, losing out only because manual is smarter and more efficient in other ways.
For this reason, some players succeed more with Directional, others succeed more with Zone. As you approach Legend difficulty, it becomes more important to use Zone because you have 2 ways to outperform rather than 1 1/2. There is no inherent disadvantage to Directional but you miss out on 1/2 a way to shine. So Zone is not significantly more successful in general. For beginners, Directional is often more successful. To be precise, it depends on if you are above or below average in skill at PCI placement (compared to your 2 other skills - timing and take pitch).
Brian SCEA
Senior AI Programmer - MLB: The Show
https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show/966054-directional-hitting-mlb-show-20-a-2.html
Oh i am so glad to come back to this thread!!! You called me dumb,you insulted any1 who disagreed with you. Now it's my turn!!!
Your reading comprehension skills are the same as a 2nd grader. Go back and read the 3rd paragragh.
In fact go call this # first! 1-800-Huked no fonicks werkid four me
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@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
It's a skilless joke and is the epitome of what ruins this game for grown folks, those who actually played ball and/or the true fans.
I have not seen that much arrogance and self importance in one sentence in quite a long time. Congrats.
It's a video game. It is meant to be fun for all players. Get over it.
? Strange comment.
Fyi I was throwin'
( not throw-ing )
2 finger side armed curve balls and full float true knuckle balls before most of you kids own dad was born probably.There is No arrogance in that statement in the slightest. I am quite a humble man.
It is a fact and thus why someone (* other than me) started this thread.The 2 hitting options of discussion are no way a comparison in any shape or form thus they need to be in two seperated categories or at least with a toggle option to isolate the different skill sets so the game is more enjoyable for the players who desire such.
Go outside and get daddy to throw you an under handed pitch and just swing a choked up real bat without aiming at the ball !
Who is hitting with the bat when any contact is made.
??.
Ha..the pitcher is the one hitting a bat, not the batters bat hitting a pitch !
Bass- ackwards and has no resemblance to any ball I was ever a part of.First, I think you need to reacquaint yourself with the definition of humble.
Secondly, you have not made a comment yet about directional hitting that has not been belittling or demeaning to those who use it. You are building yourself up by tearing others down. Decidedly not humble.
By the way, there are folks over at the Operation Sports forums who will insinuate you are a child and not a true fan because you play DD and not Franchise.
It is all a matter of perspective and of course and neither you or they are right.
No belittling.
Just FACTS.
Only thing is that the 2 forms of play need to be seperated by user choice just as guess pitch is.A chess board has no marbles.
"A chess board has no marbles" is a false equivalent. If people were trying to pitch footballs or hit a pitch with a hockey stick, your wonderful quote would fit. What this comes down to is people getting angry because they are losing/have lost when they feel they should win because of how their opponent plays.
- Some teams use small ball to win (Baseball)
- Some teams want to hit gappers and HRs (Baseball)
- Some teams run the wing-t (Football)
- Some teams go empty and throw (Football)
- Live and die by the three (basketball)
- Get inside for the easy score/foul (basketball)
- Using directional hitting (The Show)
- Using Zone Hitting (The Show)
I do not hear anyone complaining that throwing the ball 40 times "isn't football" or that shooting 3s isn't basketball. So I find it pretty rich to have a gamer come on a baseball video game forum and tell people how they should play and how one way of playing shouldn't be allowed in competition. When fact is that their preferred way of hitting (zone hitting) doesn't accurately simulate hitting a baseball either.
So quit your complaining. When the servers are back-up, login, and do what you do: Stair down Rizzo's crotch from your Strike Zone Camera and act like you're amazing because you're moving a curser around a square.
FYI - Before you start laying claim that I use directional, I am a zone hitter. I find the arrogance of PCI users hilarious. Get over yourselves.
Your comparisons are ridiculous haha
Directional is cpu controlled aiming..
In madden itd be like lettung the cpu throw for you....run for you etc. All you do is snap.
Itd be like an online shooter and using aimbot and auto aim.
You do still know you have to be accurate in your swing and direction of the bat to be successful right? You can still swing and miss at a ball down the plate if you are early or late and you can still miss a ball if your directional swing is up and in but the ball is down and away. You sound like a dope man.
False..if it worked that way maybe...but holding up just influences fly ball. You have no idea what youre talking about.
W zone you can have perfect timing and miss.....thatd never happen w directional.
So you don’t play with directional yet you’re trying to tell someone who’s only used directional for the last 3+ years how it works lmaoooo you’re a bleeping donut bro. You’re the biggest tool bag on this forum and that says a lot.
Donut?? Hahah
Listen. One of the lead developers said the cpu aims.... so yes letting the cpu aim for you is easier than actually having to put the pci on the ball. Directional is the easier of the two esp on any level below hof.
Maybe change the difficulty to hof for all of ranked seasons instead of progressing as you go.
Oh so youve never tried zone or you suck at it? Get gud at zone...isnt that answer??
Youve just nominated yourself as the biggest tool bag.
Im not telling you how it works..im telling you how SDS says it works....so youre saying the developers are wrong? Hahahahahaha
Take your L
Show the proof they said it donut
Read the thread..its been posted. But here ya go since youre a fool. Didnt realize i was dealing with a bunch of morons.
Grizz...how is showing the proof of how a developer says it works considered flexing? Haha
Directional or Zone is personal preference. As far as the main hitting engine goes, both interfaces are identical (Directional simulates your PCI placement for you and passes it to the engine). In Zone hitting you pick the timing and PCI location. In Directional you pick the timing and influence PCI location (or if you don't influence, it picks for you). For this reason it is better not to influence than to influence randomly and get it half right and half wrong (in that situation you are better off paying attention to location and taking pitches).
I would compare it to manual vs automatic shifting for driving. If you are below average in stick shifting, you are better off using automatic where it handles it for you. Your disadvantage is 'forgiven' though you gain nothing extra for it. If you are above average in stick shifting, you are better off using stick to 'earn' that advantage. This is why professional drivers have to use stick to compete at the highest levels because even a small edge adds up, but you can drive perfectly well either way. In fact automatic accelerates faster than manual and doesn't lose energy to shifts, losing out only because manual is smarter and more efficient in other ways.
For this reason, some players succeed more with Directional, others succeed more with Zone. As you approach Legend difficulty, it becomes more important to use Zone because you have 2 ways to outperform rather than 1 1/2. There is no inherent disadvantage to Directional but you miss out on 1/2 a way to shine. So Zone is not significantly more successful in general. For beginners, Directional is often more successful. To be precise, it depends on if you are above or below average in skill at PCI placement (compared to your 2 other skills - timing and take pitch).
Brian SCEA
Senior AI Programmer - MLB: The Show
https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show/966054-directional-hitting-mlb-show-20-a-2.html
Oh i am so glad to come back to this thread!!! You called me dumb,you insulted any1 who disagreed with you. Now it's my turn!!!
Your reading comprehension skills are the same as a 2nd grader. Go back and read the 3rd paragragh.
In fact go call this # first! 1-800-Huked no fonicks werkid four me
Aww poor grizz is offended and came back to make a moron of himself again...maybe YOU should read the third paragraph.
I dont use autocorrect, so dont give a [censored]...seems you were able to figure it out.
Now here..
"For beginners, Directional is often more successful. To be precise, it depends on if you are above or below average in skill at PCI placement"Like i said since you struggle...on lower levels directional is just timing and is easier... its that simple... go play rbi then.
Again you come in wrong....prob should bow out again grizz.
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@thewooderboy_mlbts said in Why directional is trash for online...:
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@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@dolenz_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
@alabam22_psn said in Why directional is trash for online...:
It's a skilless joke and is the epitome of what ruins this game for grown folks, those who actually played ball and/or the true fans.
I have not seen that much arrogance and self importance in one sentence in quite a long time. Congrats.
It's a video game. It is meant to be fun for all players. Get over it.
? Strange comment.
Fyi I was throwin'
( not throw-ing )
2 finger side armed curve balls and full float true knuckle balls before most of you kids own dad was born probably.There is No arrogance in that statement in the slightest. I am quite a humble man.
It is a fact and thus why someone (* other than me) started this thread.The 2 hitting options of discussion are no way a comparison in any shape or form thus they need to be in two seperated categories or at least with a toggle option to isolate the different skill sets so the game is more enjoyable for the players who desire such.
Go outside and get daddy to throw you an under handed pitch and just swing a choked up real bat without aiming at the ball !
Who is hitting with the bat when any contact is made.
??.
Ha..the pitcher is the one hitting a bat, not the batters bat hitting a pitch !
Bass- ackwards and has no resemblance to any ball I was ever a part of.First, I think you need to reacquaint yourself with the definition of humble.
Secondly, you have not made a comment yet about directional hitting that has not been belittling or demeaning to those who use it. You are building yourself up by tearing others down. Decidedly not humble.
By the way, there are folks over at the Operation Sports forums who will insinuate you are a child and not a true fan because you play DD and not Franchise.
It is all a matter of perspective and of course and neither you or they are right.
No belittling.
Just FACTS.
Only thing is that the 2 forms of play need to be seperated by user choice just as guess pitch is.A chess board has no marbles.
"A chess board has no marbles" is a false equivalent. If people were trying to pitch footballs or hit a pitch with a hockey stick, your wonderful quote would fit. What this comes down to is people getting angry because they are losing/have lost when they feel they should win because of how their opponent plays.
- Some teams use small ball to win (Baseball)
- Some teams want to hit gappers and HRs (Baseball)
- Some teams run the wing-t (Football)
- Some teams go empty and throw (Football)
- Live and die by the three (basketball)
- Get inside for the easy score/foul (basketball)
- Using directional hitting (The Show)
- Using Zone Hitting (The Show)
I do not hear anyone complaining that throwing the ball 40 times "isn't football" or that shooting 3s isn't basketball. So I find it pretty rich to have a gamer come on a baseball video game forum and tell people how they should play and how one way of playing shouldn't be allowed in competition. When fact is that their preferred way of hitting (zone hitting) doesn't accurately simulate hitting a baseball either.
So quit your complaining. When the servers are back-up, login, and do what you do: Stair down Rizzo's crotch from your Strike Zone Camera and act like you're amazing because you're moving a curser around a square.
FYI - Before you start laying claim that I use directional, I am a zone hitter. I find the arrogance of PCI users hilarious. Get over yourselves.
Your comparisons are ridiculous haha
Directional is cpu controlled aiming..
In madden itd be like lettung the cpu throw for you....run for you etc. All you do is snap.
Itd be like an online shooter and using aimbot and auto aim.
You do still know you have to be accurate in your swing and direction of the bat to be successful right? You can still swing and miss at a ball down the plate if you are early or late and you can still miss a ball if your directional swing is up and in but the ball is down and away. You sound like a dope man.
False..if it worked that way maybe...but holding up just influences fly ball. You have no idea what youre talking about.
W zone you can have perfect timing and miss.....thatd never happen w directional.
So you don’t play with directional yet you’re trying to tell someone who’s only used directional for the last 3+ years how it works lmaoooo you’re a bleeping donut bro. You’re the biggest tool bag on this forum and that says a lot.
Donut?? Hahah
Listen. One of the lead developers said the cpu aims.... so yes letting the cpu aim for you is easier than actually having to put the pci on the ball. Directional is the easier of the two esp on any level below hof.
Maybe change the difficulty to hof for all of ranked seasons instead of progressing as you go.
Oh so youve never tried zone or you suck at it? Get gud at zone...isnt that answer??
Youve just nominated yourself as the biggest tool bag.
Im not telling you how it works..im telling you how SDS says it works....so youre saying the developers are wrong? Hahahahahaha
Take your L
Show the proof they said it donut
Read the thread..its been posted. But here ya go since youre a fool. Didnt realize i was dealing with a bunch of morons.
Grizz...how is showing the proof of how a developer says it works considered flexing? Haha
Directional or Zone is personal preference. As far as the main hitting engine goes, both interfaces are identical (Directional simulates your PCI placement for you and passes it to the engine). In Zone hitting you pick the timing and PCI location. In Directional you pick the timing and influence PCI location (or if you don't influence, it picks for you). For this reason it is better not to influence than to influence randomly and get it half right and half wrong (in that situation you are better off paying attention to location and taking pitches).
I would compare it to manual vs automatic shifting for driving. If you are below average in stick shifting, you are better off using automatic where it handles it for you. Your disadvantage is 'forgiven' though you gain nothing extra for it. If you are above average in stick shifting, you are better off using stick to 'earn' that advantage. This is why professional drivers have to use stick to compete at the highest levels because even a small edge adds up, but you can drive perfectly well either way. In fact automatic accelerates faster than manual and doesn't lose energy to shifts, losing out only because manual is smarter and more efficient in other ways.
For this reason, some players succeed more with Directional, others succeed more with Zone. As you approach Legend difficulty, it becomes more important to use Zone because you have 2 ways to outperform rather than 1 1/2. There is no inherent disadvantage to Directional but you miss out on 1/2 a way to shine. So Zone is not significantly more successful in general. For beginners, Directional is often more successful. To be precise, it depends on if you are above or below average in skill at PCI placement (compared to your 2 other skills - timing and take pitch).
Brian SCEA
Senior AI Programmer - MLB: The Show
https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show/966054-directional-hitting-mlb-show-20-a-2.html
Oh i am so glad to come back to this thread!!! You called me dumb,you insulted any1 who disagreed with you. Now it's my turn!!!
Your reading comprehension skills are the same as a 2nd grader. Go back and read the 3rd paragragh.
In fact go call this # first! 1-800-Huked no fonicks werkid four me
Aww poor grizz is offended and came back to make a moron of himself again...maybe YOU should read the third paragraph.
I dont use autocorrect, so dont give a [censored]...seems you were able to figure it out.
Now here..
"For beginners, Directional is often more successful. To be precise, it depends on if you are above or below average in skill at PCI placement"Like i said since you struggle...on lower levels directional is just timing and is easier... its that simple... go play rbi then.
Again you come in wrong....prob should bow out again grizz.
Some people succeed with directional and some with zone! Which implies niether is advantageous which is what your arguement is based off from the op. So kick rocks!! Welcome to Grizz's prison your cell "Block#" is 2021-7
Oh yeah and here's my middle finger thrown at you for free!
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It's a skilless joke and is the epitome of what ruins this game for grown folks, those who actually played ball and/or the true fans.
I have not seen that much arrogance and self importance in one sentence in quite a long time. Congrats.
It's a video game. It is meant to be fun for all players. Get over it.
? Strange comment.
Fyi I was throwin'
( not throw-ing )
2 finger side armed curve balls and full float true knuckle balls before most of you kids own dad was born probably.There is No arrogance in that statement in the slightest. I am quite a humble man.
It is a fact and thus why someone (* other than me) started this thread.The 2 hitting options of discussion are no way a comparison in any shape or form thus they need to be in two seperated categories or at least with a toggle option to isolate the different skill sets so the game is more enjoyable for the players who desire such.
Go outside and get daddy to throw you an under handed pitch and just swing a choked up real bat without aiming at the ball !
Who is hitting with the bat when any contact is made.
??.
Ha..the pitcher is the one hitting a bat, not the batters bat hitting a pitch !
Bass- ackwards and has no resemblance to any ball I was ever a part of.First, I think you need to reacquaint yourself with the definition of humble.
Secondly, you have not made a comment yet about directional hitting that has not been belittling or demeaning to those who use it. You are building yourself up by tearing others down. Decidedly not humble.
By the way, there are folks over at the Operation Sports forums who will insinuate you are a child and not a true fan because you play DD and not Franchise.
It is all a matter of perspective and of course and neither you or they are right.
No belittling.
Just FACTS.
Only thing is that the 2 forms of play need to be seperated by user choice just as guess pitch is.A chess board has no marbles.
"A chess board has no marbles" is a false equivalent. If people were trying to pitch footballs or hit a pitch with a hockey stick, your wonderful quote would fit. What this comes down to is people getting angry because they are losing/have lost when they feel they should win because of how their opponent plays.
- Some teams use small ball to win (Baseball)
- Some teams want to hit gappers and HRs (Baseball)
- Some teams run the wing-t (Football)
- Some teams go empty and throw (Football)
- Live and die by the three (basketball)
- Get inside for the easy score/foul (basketball)
- Using directional hitting (The Show)
- Using Zone Hitting (The Show)
I do not hear anyone complaining that throwing the ball 40 times "isn't football" or that shooting 3s isn't basketball. So I find it pretty rich to have a gamer come on a baseball video game forum and tell people how they should play and how one way of playing shouldn't be allowed in competition. When fact is that their preferred way of hitting (zone hitting) doesn't accurately simulate hitting a baseball either.
So quit your complaining. When the servers are back-up, login, and do what you do: Stair down Rizzo's crotch from your Strike Zone Camera and act like you're amazing because you're moving a curser around a square.
FYI - Before you start laying claim that I use directional, I am a zone hitter. I find the arrogance of PCI users hilarious. Get over yourselves.
Your comparisons are ridiculous haha
Directional is cpu controlled aiming..
In madden itd be like lettung the cpu throw for you....run for you etc. All you do is snap.
Itd be like an online shooter and using aimbot and auto aim.
You do still know you have to be accurate in your swing and direction of the bat to be successful right? You can still swing and miss at a ball down the plate if you are early or late and you can still miss a ball if your directional swing is up and in but the ball is down and away. You sound like a dope man.
False..if it worked that way maybe...but holding up just influences fly ball. You have no idea what youre talking about.
W zone you can have perfect timing and miss.....thatd never happen w directional.
So you don’t play with directional yet you’re trying to tell someone who’s only used directional for the last 3+ years how it works lmaoooo you’re a bleeping donut bro. You’re the biggest tool bag on this forum and that says a lot.
Donut?? Hahah
Listen. One of the lead developers said the cpu aims.... so yes letting the cpu aim for you is easier than actually having to put the pci on the ball. Directional is the easier of the two esp on any level below hof.
Maybe change the difficulty to hof for all of ranked seasons instead of progressing as you go.
Oh so youve never tried zone or you suck at it? Get gud at zone...isnt that answer??
Youve just nominated yourself as the biggest tool bag.
Im not telling you how it works..im telling you how SDS says it works....so youre saying the developers are wrong? Hahahahahaha
Take your L
Show the proof they said it donut
Read the thread..its been posted. But here ya go since youre a fool. Didnt realize i was dealing with a bunch of morons.
Grizz...how is showing the proof of how a developer says it works considered flexing? Haha
Directional or Zone is personal preference. As far as the main hitting engine goes, both interfaces are identical (Directional simulates your PCI placement for you and passes it to the engine). In Zone hitting you pick the timing and PCI location. In Directional you pick the timing and influence PCI location (or if you don't influence, it picks for you). For this reason it is better not to influence than to influence randomly and get it half right and half wrong (in that situation you are better off paying attention to location and taking pitches).
I would compare it to manual vs automatic shifting for driving. If you are below average in stick shifting, you are better off using automatic where it handles it for you. Your disadvantage is 'forgiven' though you gain nothing extra for it. If you are above average in stick shifting, you are better off using stick to 'earn' that advantage. This is why professional drivers have to use stick to compete at the highest levels because even a small edge adds up, but you can drive perfectly well either way. In fact automatic accelerates faster than manual and doesn't lose energy to shifts, losing out only because manual is smarter and more efficient in other ways.
For this reason, some players succeed more with Directional, others succeed more with Zone. As you approach Legend difficulty, it becomes more important to use Zone because you have 2 ways to outperform rather than 1 1/2. There is no inherent disadvantage to Directional but you miss out on 1/2 a way to shine. So Zone is not significantly more successful in general. For beginners, Directional is often more successful. To be precise, it depends on if you are above or below average in skill at PCI placement (compared to your 2 other skills - timing and take pitch).
Brian SCEA
Senior AI Programmer - MLB: The Show
https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show/966054-directional-hitting-mlb-show-20-a-2.html
Oh i am so glad to come back to this thread!!! You called me dumb,you insulted any1 who disagreed with you. Now it's my turn!!!
Your reading comprehension skills are the same as a 2nd grader. Go back and read the 3rd paragragh.
In fact go call this # first! 1-800-Huked no fonicks werkid four me
Aww poor grizz is offended and came back to make a moron of himself again...maybe YOU should read the third paragraph.
I dont use autocorrect, so dont give a [censored]...seems you were able to figure it out.
Now here..
"For beginners, Directional is often more successful. To be precise, it depends on if you are above or below average in skill at PCI placement"Like i said since you struggle...on lower levels directional is just timing and is easier... its that simple... go play rbi then.
Again you come in wrong....prob should bow out again grizz.
Some people succeed with directional and some with zone! Which implies niether is advantageous which is what your arguement is based off from the op. So kick rocks!! Welcome to Grizz's prison your cell "Block#" is 2021-7
Oh yeah and here's my middle finger thrown at you for free!
So youre a beginner? Haha it is easier..if i have to actually locate the pitch w pci and you dont.....you have it easier. Did youre fat [censored] even play baseball or just keep stats in dugout.
Again you make a fool of yourself. Please keep posting.
