Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often
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@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
People who don’t want check swings do not possess the skill to check swing. Isn’t check swinging user input? Thought that’s what you guys wanted. Or just the input you are good at? This is just another way people want the game in their favor.
It wasn’t balanced correctly. Check swings are still in the game and work now. What 20 had was giving players the ability to get a ball called no matter what allowing them to “cheat” on a fastball every at bat and never have to have the ability to recognize off speed.
The check swing in 20 was not pro user input whatsoever. It was based on a discipline rating and was completely broken. They removed the discipline rating in order to MAKE IT based on user input. So now when you check swing... you did it.
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@crimson_monk said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
People who don’t want check swings do not possess the skill to check swing. Isn’t check swinging user input? Thought that’s what you guys wanted. Or just the input you are good at? This is just another way people want the game in their favor.
It’s not that we don’t want check swings, it’s the fact that half of the people you play do it on every pitch that is close. If they want to that’s fine but they should actually go to far more than the game is calling. No one irl does that, and if they did the ump would side with the pitchers more times than not bc the batter is obviously getting fooled enough to check swing so often. Besides they aren’t getting rid of it as much as they are making it harder to do consistently
So now you want realism and not user input? You guys need to make up your minds.
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@ikasnu_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I lost because of check swings! Get rid of it! LoL. Did you know you can check swing too and that check swings are part of baseball?
When have you ever seen a team check swing 30 times in a game and have roughly 25 of those go in their favor?
Again, now you want realism? That is what I have been asking for, but you guys want user input only. It just the user input you are good at, perhaps?
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I notice in MLB The Show 20, that when I am out in front on off-speed pitches in the strike zone, I end up check swinging but with a called strike (obviously). This seems a symptom of the problem. I still think the players 'discipline' rating should play a role in ability to check swing successfully or else what value does that parameter contribute?
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@ibonafidescrub_ said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
People who don’t want check swings do not possess the skill to check swing. Isn’t check swinging user input? Thought that’s what you guys wanted. Or just the input you are good at? This is just another way people want the game in their favor.
Don't use common sense on the forums you will get labled as a horrible poster. It interferes with dope smokin they don't want to have to think.
You label me, I label you.. so I dub ther unforgiven
Monsters of rock 89' box seats Metallica rocked!!!
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@grizzbear55_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
People who don’t want check swings do not possess the skill to check swing. Isn’t check swinging user input? Thought that’s what you guys wanted. Or just the input you are good at? This is just another way people want the game in their favor.
Don't use common sense on the forums you will get labled as a horrible poster. It interferes with dope smokin they don't want to have to think.
You label me, I label you.. so I dub ther unforgiven
Monsters of rock 89' box seats Metallica rocked!!!
I saw that show at Rich Stadium in Buffalo. Van Halen (Sammy - boo!), Metallica, Scorpions I think? We were on the field 20 rows back, had a blast. The day before the show I was accosted by a car full of locals for having long hair. Somehow I talked my way out of getting beaten up or shot. Next trip to USA was to Detroit, somehow we didn't get beaten up or shot for having long hair...
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People in Detroit save the bullets for each other. They don't waste them on tourists. Heh
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@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ikasnu_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I lost because of check swings! Get rid of it! LoL. Did you know you can check swing too and that check swings are part of baseball?
When have you ever seen a team check swing 30 times in a game and have roughly 25 of those go in their favor?
Again, now you want realism? That is what I have been asking for, but you guys want user input only. It just the user input you are good at, perhaps?
Realism is impossible, I was using that as an example since it doesn't showcase user input nor realism. Its an exploit through and through and unintended design from the discipline attribute. All check swings should be 50/50, not 90/10.
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@wk680_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I notice in MLB The Show 20, that when I am out in front on off-speed pitches in the strike zone, I end up check swinging but with a called strike (obviously). This seems a symptom of the problem. I still think the players 'discipline' rating should play a role in ability to check swing successfully or else what value does that parameter contribute?
They completely removed the discipline attribute from the game
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@thebigmehple_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@lucas8181 said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@gradekthebard said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
They will do like they always do and watch the metrics. If strikeouts are too high for the average player, they will change stuff. People need to keep in mind that SDs is a business and will do what is necessary to keep the majority of their customers happy.
If you really want a purely skill based competition, go play actual baseball. this is a video game and a consumer product first, a competitive game second.
Someone here understands business
Sure, they could tailor the game to fit the 5-10% of players that think this game is more important than their wife sitting in the other room watching her life slowly slip away, questioning her life decisions.
But, those of us with money, focus on other things. Thus, the game will tailor to the majority.
Sorry basement dwellers
1700 ranked games played. that's the definition of a basement dweller. weird flex attempt
Just spit my coffee out. Well played lol
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@mojofilter63_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
People who don’t want check swings do not possess the skill to check swing. Isn’t check swinging user input? Thought that’s what you guys wanted. Or just the input you are good at? This is just another way people want the game in their favor.
Don't use common sense on the forums you will get labled as a horrible poster. It interferes with dope smokin they don't want to have to think.
You label me, I label you.. so I dub ther unforgiven
Monsters of rock 89' box seats Metallica rocked!!!
I saw that show at Rich Stadium in Buffalo. Van Halen (Sammy - boo!), Metallica, Scorpions I think? We were on the field 20 rows back, had a blast. The day before the show I was accosted by a car full of locals for having long hair. Somehow I talked my way out of getting beaten up or shot. Next trip to USA was to Detroit, somehow we didn't get beaten up or shot for having long hair...
T he Old Mile High Stadium in Denver!! Metallica, Van Halen,Scorps, kingdom Come, and Dokken! I think it was a 14 hour concert maybe 15? No occifer, I was not blitzed out of my mind that day!!!
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@grizzbear55_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mojofilter63_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
People who don’t want check swings do not possess the skill to check swing. Isn’t check swinging user input? Thought that’s what you guys wanted. Or just the input you are good at? This is just another way people want the game in their favor.
Don't use common sense on the forums you will get labled as a horrible poster. It interferes with dope smokin they don't want to have to think.
You label me, I label you.. so I dub ther unforgiven
Monsters of rock 89' box seats Metallica rocked!!!
I saw that show at Rich Stadium in Buffalo. Van Halen (Sammy - boo!), Metallica, Scorpions I think? We were on the field 20 rows back, had a blast. The day before the show I was accosted by a car full of locals for having long hair. Somehow I talked my way out of getting beaten up or shot. Next trip to USA was to Detroit, somehow we didn't get beaten up or shot for having long hair...
T he Old Mile High Stadium in Denver!! Metallica, Van Halen,Scorps, kingdom Come, and Dokken! I think it was a 14 hour concert maybe 15? No occifer, I was not blitzed out of my mind that day!!!
Dokken right, had forgotten them, cripes over 30 years ago now. Kingdom Come now residing in the "where are they now file" as they say. In fact most of my long hair is residing in that same file...
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@ikasnu_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@ikasnu_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@vipersneak_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I lost because of check swings! Get rid of it! LoL. Did you know you can check swing too and that check swings are part of baseball?
When have you ever seen a team check swing 30 times in a game and have roughly 25 of those go in their favor?
Again, now you want realism? That is what I have been asking for, but you guys want user input only. It just the user input you are good at, perhaps?
Realism is impossible, I was using that as an example since it doesn't showcase user input nor realism. Its an exploit through and through and unintended design from the discipline attribute. All check swings should be 50/50, not 90/10.
So you want realism while claiming it is impossible. It is not impossible for many aspects of the game to be realistic. Just like your example of 90/10 vs 50/50. Regardless of whether it was an unintended effect, you want it to be more realistic.
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I'd just rather they fix the super sink sinker on outlier sinkers at the top of the zone.
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@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I'd just rather they fix the super sink sinker on outlier sinkers at the top of the zone.
Over check swings?! No way. The high sinkers is not unhittable - it’s OP but it’s not unhittable. The check swing is game breaking
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@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I'd just rather they fix the super sink sinker on outlier sinkers at the top of the zone.
Over check swings?! No way. The high sinkers is not unhittable - it’s OP but it’s not unhittable. The check swing is game breaking
Nah, check swings happen. Sinkers sinking at 100 above the zone into the zone do not.
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@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I'd just rather they fix the super sink sinker on outlier sinkers at the top of the zone.
Over check swings?! No way. The high sinkers is not unhittable - it’s OP but it’s not unhittable. The check swing is game breaking
Nah, check swings happen. Sinkers sinking at 100 above the zone into the zone do not.
Check swings do not happen 65 x in 1 game at an 85% success rate.
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@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I'd just rather they fix the super sink sinker on outlier sinkers at the top of the zone.
Over check swings?! No way. The high sinkers is not unhittable - it’s OP but it’s not unhittable. The check swing is game breaking
Nah, check swings happen. Sinkers sinking at 100 above the zone into the zone do not.
Check swings do not happen 65 x in 1 game at an 85% success rate.
Maybe you should pitch in the zone more? I have never seen 65 check swings in a game. However, there is a possibility it could happen in real life no matter how probable it would be. As far as physics, a sinker would not be able to move in such a manner thrown that way.
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@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I'd just rather they fix the super sink sinker on outlier sinkers at the top of the zone.
Over check swings?! No way. The high sinkers is not unhittable - it’s OP but it’s not unhittable. The check swing is game breaking
Nah, check swings happen. Sinkers sinking at 100 above the zone into the zone do not.
Check swings do not happen 65 x in 1 game at an 85% success rate.
Maybe you should pitch in the zone more? I have never seen 65 check swings in a game. However, there is a possibility it could happen in real life no matter how probable it would be. As far as physics, a sinker would not be able to move in such a manner thrown that way.
pitch in the zone more?? get real. if I have you off balance checkswinging all day I'll continue to throw balls. you guys are in for a rude awakening when 21 drops. 10-15 Ks a game.
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@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@mr7brown_xbl said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I'd just rather they fix the super sink sinker on outlier sinkers at the top of the zone.
Over check swings?! No way. The high sinkers is not unhittable - it’s OP but it’s not unhittable. The check swing is game breaking
Nah, check swings happen. Sinkers sinking at 100 above the zone into the zone do not.
Check swings do not happen 65 x in 1 game at an 85% success rate.
Maybe you should pitch in the zone more? I have never seen 65 check swings in a game. However, there is a possibility it could happen in real life no matter how probable it would be. As far as physics, a sinker would not be able to move in such a manner thrown that way.
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