perfect perfect double plays
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@studman7_psn said in perfect perfect double plays:
@rabid55wolverine said in perfect perfect double plays:
Out of curiosity, why cant you hit a ball perfectly and still hit into a double play? You can hit a perfect grounder right at someone. The foul ball perfect hit is a little weird though
I want a video game. Imagine if you had a perfect headshot in COD and missed, or executed a perfect turn in GranTurismo and crashed, or a perfect jump in Mario Brothers and still fell in the pit. I want input to RULE outcomes 100%.
The difference is that this is baseball. In baseball you can perfectly hit a ball and get out while you can bloop a ball and get a hit. That's just the way this sport works.
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@jcassaro44_psn said in perfect perfect double plays:
these need to stop... That is all
It’s baseball... it happens. The hardest ball ever hit in a game was a double play.
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@warriorsarecool7 said in perfect perfect double plays:
@jcassaro44_psn said in perfect perfect double plays:
these need to stop... That is all
It’s baseball... it happens. The hardest ball ever hit in a game was a double play.
It happens too enough in the game. 7,8 of my last perfect perfect contacts landed directly at the ss/ second baseman. I’m trying to prestige players but either the game steal hits and runs from me or players rage quit the moment I hit homeruns. Tatis and Soto would be prestige by then if it was not for that kind of [censored].
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@thierry007007 said in perfect perfect double plays:
@warriorsarecool7 said in perfect perfect double plays:
@jcassaro44_psn said in perfect perfect double plays:
these need to stop... That is all
It’s baseball... it happens. The hardest ball ever hit in a game was a double play.
It happens too enough in the game. 7,8 of my last perfect perfect contacts landed directly at the ss/ second baseman. I’m trying to prestige players but either the game steal hits and runs from me or players rage quit the moment I hit a homerun. Tatis and Soto would be prestige by then if it was not for that kind of [censored].
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I spend most of my games not getting rewarded for good contact, maybe because I don't home hunt, so when I hit perfect perfects i expect to be rewarded.
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I haven't played a whole lot online this year or any year for that matter but when I play online, im generally rewarded for my perfects. There are some that are not hits just like in real life but the majority are hits. If I drill a ball at 105 mph right at someone, bad things are going to happen. Double plays happen on balls that are crushed happen all the time in real life. The fly ball perfects with a good launch angle are the ones that should generally be hits or home runs but grounders shouldn't always be hits.
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@rabid55wolverine said in perfect perfect double plays:
I haven't played a whole lot online this year or any year for that matter but when I play online, im generally rewarded for my perfects. There are some that are not hits just like in real life but the majority are hits. If I drill a ball at 105 mph right at someone, bad things are going to happen. Double plays happen on balls that are crushed happen all the time in real life. The fly ball perfects with a good launch angle are the ones that should generally be hits or home runs but grounders shouldn't always be hits.
Thank you! The complaint I can understand is perfect perfect flyballs not being homeruns when most of these guys have very high power. Beside that, perfect lineouts and perfect groundouts are part of the game.
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If people enjoy not be being rewarded and say its cool, then fine, i wont judge... But it's hard to keep playing this game and constantly square up balls and watch them find gloves time and time again.
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@jcassaro44_psn said in perfect perfect double plays:
If people enjoy not be being rewarded and say its cool, then fine, i wont judge... But it's hard to keep playing this game and constantly square up balls and watch them find gloves time and time again.
No one enjoys not being rewarded when you get a perfect-perfect but what we're saying is that we understand that that is just how baseball works. Anyone who believes they should be rewarded every time they do something perfectly just needs to honestly stay away from anything that has to do with baseball because that's just not how baseball works.
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@rabid55wolverine said in perfect perfect double plays:
Out of curiosity, why cant you hit a ball perfectly and still hit into a double play? You can hit a perfect grounder right at someone. The foul ball perfect hit is a little weird though
Because user input should matter more then what happens in baseball because that’s what video games are.
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@bayareaj1991 said in perfect perfect double plays:
@jcassaro44_psn said in perfect perfect double plays:
If people enjoy not be being rewarded and say its cool, then fine, i wont judge... But it's hard to keep playing this game and constantly square up balls and watch them find gloves time and time again.
No one enjoys not being rewarded when you get a perfect-perfect but what we're saying is that we understand that that is just how baseball works. Anyone who believes they should be rewarded every time they do something perfectly just needs to honestly stay away from anything that has to do with baseball because that's just not how baseball works.
You aren’t Mike trout. Mike trout doesnt flail at pitches in the dirt. Check swing 40 times a game and foul off 40 balls 15 feet out of the zone until he gets a meatball mistake 0-2 down the middle that he was already going to swing at because (what do you know) he swings at every pitch.
This isn’t a baseball simulation it’s a competitive baseball game and user input should reign supreme in a video game. Perfect perfect outs should be about 5% if that. The only way I would say it should be more is if they completely did away with bad input hits.
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@a_perfectgame said in perfect perfect double plays:
@bayareaj1991 said in perfect perfect double plays:
@jcassaro44_psn said in perfect perfect double plays:
If people enjoy not be being rewarded and say its cool, then fine, i wont judge... But it's hard to keep playing this game and constantly square up balls and watch them find gloves time and time again.
No one enjoys not being rewarded when you get a perfect-perfect but what we're saying is that we understand that that is just how baseball works. Anyone who believes they should be rewarded every time they do something perfectly just needs to honestly stay away from anything that has to do with baseball because that's just not how baseball works.
You aren’t Mike trout. Mike trout doesnt flail at pitches in the dirt. Check swing 40 times a game and foul off 40 balls 15 feet out of the zone until he gets a meatball mistake 0-2 down the middle that he was already going to swing at because (what do you know) he swings at every pitch.
This isn’t a baseball simulation it’s a competitive baseball game and user input should reign supreme in a video game. Perfect perfect outs should be about 5% if that. The only way I would say it should be more is if they completely did away with bad input hits.
I mean that first paragraph is a whole different issue. I do agree with them not allowing all these foul balls. I don't know where I said I believe that that is fine or that I agree that that should be acceptable. As for perfect-perfect outs being 5%, I'm sorry but that is crazy to me. Yes it is a competitive mode but so is the MLB and other baseball leagues and guess what? You get out on perfectly squared up balls. I really don't understand why you would play a baseball game and not want it to simulate real baseball. The people who think like you don't want an actual baseball game. What you want is a mode where both teams get a certain amount of batters each and there are no fielders and it is just simply who ever get's the most perfect-perfects wins. If that's what you want then that's fine but that would be a batting practice mode, not baseball. For the most part, the person with more good inputs is usually going to win. Have I won with less good inputs and lost with more good inputs before? Of course, but for the most part I believe the person with the most good inputs is going to win MOST OF THE TIME as it should be.
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@a_perfectgame said in perfect perfect double plays:
@rabid55wolverine said in perfect perfect double plays:
Out of curiosity, why cant you hit a ball perfectly and still hit into a double play? You can hit a perfect grounder right at someone. The foul ball perfect hit is a little weird though
Because user input should matter more then what happens in baseball because that’s what video games are.
User input is a lot more important in real life and they still smoke it right at people. Why should a game be different?
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@bayareaj1991 said in perfect perfect double plays:
@a_perfectgame said in perfect perfect double plays:
@bayareaj1991 said in perfect perfect double plays:
@jcassaro44_psn said in perfect perfect double plays:
If people enjoy not be being rewarded and say its cool, then fine, i wont judge... But it's hard to keep playing this game and constantly square up balls and watch them find gloves time and time again.
No one enjoys not being rewarded when you get a perfect-perfect but what we're saying is that we understand that that is just how baseball works. Anyone who believes they should be rewarded every time they do something perfectly just needs to honestly stay away from anything that has to do with baseball because that's just not how baseball works.
You aren’t Mike trout. Mike trout doesnt flail at pitches in the dirt. Check swing 40 times a game and foul off 40 balls 15 feet out of the zone until he gets a meatball mistake 0-2 down the middle that he was already going to swing at because (what do you know) he swings at every pitch.
This isn’t a baseball simulation it’s a competitive baseball game and user input should reign supreme in a video game. Perfect perfect outs should be about 5% if that. The only way I would say it should be more is if they completely did away with bad input hits.
I mean that first paragraph is a whole different issue. I do agree with them not allowing all these foul balls. I don't know where I said I believe that that is fine or that I agree that that should be acceptable. As for perfect-perfect outs being 5%, I'm sorry but that is crazy to me. Yes it is a competitive mode but so is the MLB and other baseball leagues and guess what? You get out on perfectly squared up balls. I really don't understand why you would play a baseball game and not want it to simulate real baseball. The people who think like you don't want an actual baseball game. What you want is a mode where both teams get a certain amount of batters each and there are no fielders and it is just simply who ever get's the most perfect-perfects wins. If that's what you want then that's fine but that would be a batting practice mode, not baseball. For the most part, the person with more good inputs is usually going to win. Have I won with less good inputs and lost with more good inputs before? Of course, but for the most part I believe the person with the most good inputs is going to win MOST OF THE TIME as it should be.
Honestly I’m not even annoyed at perfect perfect outs really because they didn’t annoy me in the beta what annoys me about 19 and 20 is out inputting my opponent an entire game while they strike out flailing and then they get a mistake — the perfect perfect outs just add to the misery. Just let the better players win when they play better the person who plays the best should win.
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@a_perfectgame said in perfect perfect double plays:
@bayareaj1991 said in perfect perfect double plays:
@a_perfectgame said in perfect perfect double plays:
@bayareaj1991 said in perfect perfect double plays:
@jcassaro44_psn said in perfect perfect double plays:
If people enjoy not be being rewarded and say its cool, then fine, i wont judge... But it's hard to keep playing this game and constantly square up balls and watch them find gloves time and time again.
No one enjoys not being rewarded when you get a perfect-perfect but what we're saying is that we understand that that is just how baseball works. Anyone who believes they should be rewarded every time they do something perfectly just needs to honestly stay away from anything that has to do with baseball because that's just not how baseball works.
You aren’t Mike trout. Mike trout doesnt flail at pitches in the dirt. Check swing 40 times a game and foul off 40 balls 15 feet out of the zone until he gets a meatball mistake 0-2 down the middle that he was already going to swing at because (what do you know) he swings at every pitch.
This isn’t a baseball simulation it’s a competitive baseball game and user input should reign supreme in a video game. Perfect perfect outs should be about 5% if that. The only way I would say it should be more is if they completely did away with bad input hits.
I mean that first paragraph is a whole different issue. I do agree with them not allowing all these foul balls. I don't know where I said I believe that that is fine or that I agree that that should be acceptable. As for perfect-perfect outs being 5%, I'm sorry but that is crazy to me. Yes it is a competitive mode but so is the MLB and other baseball leagues and guess what? You get out on perfectly squared up balls. I really don't understand why you would play a baseball game and not want it to simulate real baseball. The people who think like you don't want an actual baseball game. What you want is a mode where both teams get a certain amount of batters each and there are no fielders and it is just simply who ever get's the most perfect-perfects wins. If that's what you want then that's fine but that would be a batting practice mode, not baseball. For the most part, the person with more good inputs is usually going to win. Have I won with less good inputs and lost with more good inputs before? Of course, but for the most part I believe the person with the most good inputs is going to win MOST OF THE TIME as it should be.
Honestly I’m not even annoyed at perfect perfect outs really because they didn’t annoy me in the beta what annoys me about 19 and 20 is out inputting my opponent an entire game while they strike out flailing and then they get a mistake — the perfect perfect outs just add to the misery. Just let the better players win when they play better the person who plays the best should win.
The fact that players can flail around and get lucky is by far the biggest issue
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@rabid55wolverine said in perfect perfect double plays:
@a_perfectgame said in perfect perfect double plays:
@bayareaj1991 said in perfect perfect double plays:
@a_perfectgame said in perfect perfect double plays:
@bayareaj1991 said in perfect perfect double plays:
@jcassaro44_psn said in perfect perfect double plays:
If people enjoy not be being rewarded and say its cool, then fine, i wont judge... But it's hard to keep playing this game and constantly square up balls and watch them find gloves time and time again.
No one enjoys not being rewarded when you get a perfect-perfect but what we're saying is that we understand that that is just how baseball works. Anyone who believes they should be rewarded every time they do something perfectly just needs to honestly stay away from anything that has to do with baseball because that's just not how baseball works.
You aren’t Mike trout. Mike trout doesnt flail at pitches in the dirt. Check swing 40 times a game and foul off 40 balls 15 feet out of the zone until he gets a meatball mistake 0-2 down the middle that he was already going to swing at because (what do you know) he swings at every pitch.
This isn’t a baseball simulation it’s a competitive baseball game and user input should reign supreme in a video game. Perfect perfect outs should be about 5% if that. The only way I would say it should be more is if they completely did away with bad input hits.
I mean that first paragraph is a whole different issue. I do agree with them not allowing all these foul balls. I don't know where I said I believe that that is fine or that I agree that that should be acceptable. As for perfect-perfect outs being 5%, I'm sorry but that is crazy to me. Yes it is a competitive mode but so is the MLB and other baseball leagues and guess what? You get out on perfectly squared up balls. I really don't understand why you would play a baseball game and not want it to simulate real baseball. The people who think like you don't want an actual baseball game. What you want is a mode where both teams get a certain amount of batters each and there are no fielders and it is just simply who ever get's the most perfect-perfects wins. If that's what you want then that's fine but that would be a batting practice mode, not baseball. For the most part, the person with more good inputs is usually going to win. Have I won with less good inputs and lost with more good inputs before? Of course, but for the most part I believe the person with the most good inputs is going to win MOST OF THE TIME as it should be.
Honestly I’m not even annoyed at perfect perfect outs really because they didn’t annoy me in the beta what annoys me about 19 and 20 is out inputting my opponent an entire game while they strike out flailing and then they get a mistake — the perfect perfect outs just add to the misery. Just let the better players win when they play better the person who plays the best should win.
The fact that players can flail around and get lucky is by far the biggest issue
I can’t even count the amount of times I had good squared good squared perfect perfect for 12 straight at bats — and now their pitcher is at 26 pitches. But I’m hitting dots and they are flailing hitting the back end of their bat 0-2 and check swinging everything off speed with 15 pitch at bats and they can’t square anything up. And now I’m at 75 pitches.
Sorry but that’s horrible gameplay... I’m not saying you don’t agree. I honestly don’t understand how anyone doesn’t agree
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Ok here’s a question. I had a PP fly all with mantle 20 degree launch angle, 106 exit velo and it was a fly out to 10 feet before the track
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@a_perfectgame said in perfect perfect double plays:
@bayareaj1991 said in perfect perfect double plays:
@a_perfectgame said in perfect perfect double plays:
@bayareaj1991 said in perfect perfect double plays:
@jcassaro44_psn said in perfect perfect double plays:
If people enjoy not be being rewarded and say its cool, then fine, i wont judge... But it's hard to keep playing this game and constantly square up balls and watch them find gloves time and time again.
No one enjoys not being rewarded when you get a perfect-perfect but what we're saying is that we understand that that is just how baseball works. Anyone who believes they should be rewarded every time they do something perfectly just needs to honestly stay away from anything that has to do with baseball because that's just not how baseball works.
You aren’t Mike trout. Mike trout doesnt flail at pitches in the dirt. Check swing 40 times a game and foul off 40 balls 15 feet out of the zone until he gets a meatball mistake 0-2 down the middle that he was already going to swing at because (what do you know) he swings at every pitch.
This isn’t a baseball simulation it’s a competitive baseball game and user input should reign supreme in a video game. Perfect perfect outs should be about 5% if that. The only way I would say it should be more is if they completely did away with bad input hits.
I mean that first paragraph is a whole different issue. I do agree with them not allowing all these foul balls. I don't know where I said I believe that that is fine or that I agree that that should be acceptable. As for perfect-perfect outs being 5%, I'm sorry but that is crazy to me. Yes it is a competitive mode but so is the MLB and other baseball leagues and guess what? You get out on perfectly squared up balls. I really don't understand why you would play a baseball game and not want it to simulate real baseball. The people who think like you don't want an actual baseball game. What you want is a mode where both teams get a certain amount of batters each and there are no fielders and it is just simply who ever get's the most perfect-perfects wins. If that's what you want then that's fine but that would be a batting practice mode, not baseball. For the most part, the person with more good inputs is usually going to win. Have I won with less good inputs and lost with more good inputs before? Of course, but for the most part I believe the person with the most good inputs is going to win MOST OF THE TIME as it should be.
Honestly I’m not even annoyed at perfect perfect outs really because they didn’t annoy me in the beta what annoys me about 19 and 20 is out inputting my opponent an entire game while they strike out flailing and then they get a mistake — the perfect perfect outs just add to the misery. Just let the better players win when they play better the person who plays the best should win.
Okay so that I can agree with you with. If you're constantly hitting perfect perfects and the other person strikes out 20 times and flails constantly and wins because the two or three they hit go out then ya that I can understand. I just don't believe that all perfect perfect hits should be hits or that the person with the most perfects should get a guaranteed win. If both players play well and one has a few more perfect perfects that doesn't mean they should win but in the situation that you're explaining I can understand why you would be upset with the outcome.
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@htonsecurity5x said in perfect perfect double plays:
Ok here’s a question. I had a PP fly all with mantle 20 degree launch angle, 106 exit velo and it was a fly out to 10 feet before the track
I think people on both sides of the arguments can agree thet PP flyballs with power hitters should pretty much always be homeruns (unless it's at Polo grounds). The argument is more about perfect line drives and grounders.
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@bayareaj1991 said in perfect perfect double plays:
@a_perfectgame said in perfect perfect double plays:
@bayareaj1991 said in perfect perfect double plays:
@a_perfectgame said in perfect perfect double plays:
@bayareaj1991 said in perfect perfect double plays:
@jcassaro44_psn said in perfect perfect double plays:
If people enjoy not be being rewarded and say its cool, then fine, i wont judge... But it's hard to keep playing this game and constantly square up balls and watch them find gloves time and time again.
No one enjoys not being rewarded when you get a perfect-perfect but what we're saying is that we understand that that is just how baseball works. Anyone who believes they should be rewarded every time they do something perfectly just needs to honestly stay away from anything that has to do with baseball because that's just not how baseball works.
You aren’t Mike trout. Mike trout doesnt flail at pitches in the dirt. Check swing 40 times a game and foul off 40 balls 15 feet out of the zone until he gets a meatball mistake 0-2 down the middle that he was already going to swing at because (what do you know) he swings at every pitch.
This isn’t a baseball simulation it’s a competitive baseball game and user input should reign supreme in a video game. Perfect perfect outs should be about 5% if that. The only way I would say it should be more is if they completely did away with bad input hits.
I mean that first paragraph is a whole different issue. I do agree with them not allowing all these foul balls. I don't know where I said I believe that that is fine or that I agree that that should be acceptable. As for perfect-perfect outs being 5%, I'm sorry but that is crazy to me. Yes it is a competitive mode but so is the MLB and other baseball leagues and guess what? You get out on perfectly squared up balls. I really don't understand why you would play a baseball game and not want it to simulate real baseball. The people who think like you don't want an actual baseball game. What you want is a mode where both teams get a certain amount of batters each and there are no fielders and it is just simply who ever get's the most perfect-perfects wins. If that's what you want then that's fine but that would be a batting practice mode, not baseball. For the most part, the person with more good inputs is usually going to win. Have I won with less good inputs and lost with more good inputs before? Of course, but for the most part I believe the person with the most good inputs is going to win MOST OF THE TIME as it should be.
Honestly I’m not even annoyed at perfect perfect outs really because they didn’t annoy me in the beta what annoys me about 19 and 20 is out inputting my opponent an entire game while they strike out flailing and then they get a mistake — the perfect perfect outs just add to the misery. Just let the better players win when they play better the person who plays the best should win.
Okay so that I can agree with you with. If you're constantly hitting perfect perfects and the other person strikes out 20 times and flails constantly and wins because the two or three they hit go out then ya that I can understand. I just don't believe that all perfect perfect hits should be hits or that the person with the most perfects should get a guaranteed win. If both players play well and one has a few more perfect perfects that doesn't mean they should win but in the situation that you're explaining I can understand why you would be upset with the outcome.
I don’t constantly hit perfect perfects but it’ll be like good squared, good squared, good squared, perfect perfect, good squared, good squared. And they will all be outs...I find this to be the case on ranked seasons more then anything and yes you are facing better pitchers — but my game style is not to foul 100 pitches out of the zone off. I don’t know. Seems like 18,19, and 20
Have all been geared toward really bad players imo. From what we’ve seen of 21 it seems like they are abandoning that motto...but I guess time will tell.I still think foul tips need to be addressed
