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Who swings and who takes a pitch on a 2-0 count and why?

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  • Red_Ted_is_back_PSNR Offline
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    I’m actively attempting to change my approach at the plate and I got to thinking about others’ strategies.

    Who swings and who takes a pitch on a 2-0 count and why? What’s your strategy?

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  • T00MuchHam_XBLT Offline
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    2-0 I’m expecting the pitcher to put something a little more in the zone as opposed to painting the corners. I think: slider/change up but have 4Seam in the back of my mind.

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    @red_ted_is_back said in Who swings and who takes a pitch on a 2-0 count and why?:

    I’m actively attempting to change my approach at the plate and I got to thinking about others’ strategies.

    Who swings and who takes a pitch on a 2-0 count and why? What’s your strategy?

    It depends on a lot of things. If the pitcher is waiting on deck, there are at least a couple of strategies. If the 8 spot hitter has a speed attribute over 70, the user could be more patient with the 8 spot hitter hoping for a walk. The user could then bunt with the pitcher to put the 8 spot hitter to 2nd base with the infielders perhaps getting the sure out at 1st base with a likely slow-footed pitcher trying to run out a bunt.

    With a cleaner slate than that, pitch count can come into effect. For example, if the starting pitcher the user is facing is only at 33 pitches heading into the 4th inning, watching a 2-0 pitch could be a good idea, specifically if the opposing pitcher and batter up are the same handedness.

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  • OakFan89_PSNO Offline
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    There are many factors that go in to this decision. First and for most is how many outs? Are there runners on? What hitter is up etc who’s pitching? Right handed left handed? How much energy and confidence is left? What inning? 3 or 9 inning game? And depending on what place the current hitter is in what bench players you have? Also is there anyone in there ball pin warming etc. 90% of the time you probably gonna get a sinker or something with velocity that sinks. So there are many factors here. So this is situational! Honestly if I have a lefty up with a sinker ball pitcher I might take a shot cause 95% of lefty hitters are low ball hitters with their uncut swings. But once again depending on the situation.

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  • halfbutt_PSNH Offline
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    All things being equal, with nobody on base, I always take 2-0. 2-1 is still an advantage count.

    That said, with a runner in scoring position, if it’s a good pitch to hit, I’m swinging.

    Of course, if my opponent starts throwing down the middle every 2-0 count, I might hack.

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    If you're a casual DD noob, you're gonna swing on a 2-0 count.

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  • raesONE_PSNR Offline
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    If I see a good pitch to hit, I'll swing regardless of the count. Whether it's 0-0 or 3-0. The only exception is when I'm down in a game and I need baserunners and I see my opponent is struggling/afraid to throw strikes.

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  • Red_Ted_is_back_PSNR Offline
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    @halfbutt_psn said in Who swings and who takes a pitch on a 2-0 count and why?:

    All things being equal, with nobody on base, I always take 2-0. 2-1 is still an advantage count.

    That said, with a runner in scoring position, if it’s a good pitch to hit, I’m swinging.

    Of course, if my opponent starts throwing down the middle every 2-0 count, I might hack.

    I think along those lines too. I found some data from 2015-17 (AL so no pitchers batting) that indicated the OBP for a 2-0 count was .348. And the OBP for a 2-1 count was .345. So there’s no difference there. Why not take a pitch?

    Here’s the kicker. The OBP for a reaching 3-0 count was .944. That’s a 600 point gain if pitch 3 is a ball as opposed to a 3 point loss if it’s a strike. Even if it’s not and you get to a full count, OBP on a 3-2 count was still .450.

    Now I know this is a video game so it’s not quite the same, but those numbers have gotta mean something in this game.

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  • OUMarcus_PSNO Offline
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    I tend to look for a 2-0 pitch in a spot that I like. If it isn't in that spot, I take. 2-1 it 3-0 are both still hitter's counts.

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  • A_PerfectGame_PSNA Offline
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    Depends on where the ball is...

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  • WillGDesigns_XBLW Offline
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    Look at the players vision and contact rate , do you have the number 9 hitter at the plate , 1 or 2 outs nobody on? Your job is to roll the lineup to the top again. The goal for 2-0 3-1 counts is extra bases, if you don't have a player who can do that at the plate work taking pitches into the strategy on and off , really only a few times its a auto take in a game

    1. Lead off hitter of the game 2-0 pitcher throwing super wild no where near the zone , and has not shown you a fastball type pitch to start off the game
    2. Late in game your down by more than 1 run and need base runners to get on
    3. You have a high contact , vision guy at the plate who can go deep in counts
    4. Lower hitter in the order 7-8-9 at the plate and the pitcher got the first 2 hitters out very easily with no effort really.
    5. Real life players rankings , take a look at the top BB walk guys who are not the 3-4-5 hitters in your lineup do you have one of those guys?|
    6. You want to practice your 2-1 and 2-2 hitting, trying to get more 3-1 3-2 counts where you can walk
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    On 2-0, I'm putting my PCI somewhere and sitting on the fastball. If I get it there, I have a really good shot of pulling one hard and if it's a breaking ball I can hopefully react on it. Either way as soon as I can identify it's not a fastball I'm not swinging unless it really hangs. It's essentially a risk-free strategy (but not without opportunity cost).

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  • icdavis882_PSNI Offline
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    I swing at pitches I know I can hit. That's all there is to it. Doesn't matter the count, doesn't matter the situation (unless it's 2 strikes, obviously, then I swing at everything close to or in the zone).

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    I swing @ every pitch cuz it's not in zone anyway! :}

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  • WarriorsAreCool7_PSNW Offline
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    Swing bc walks are for p$ssys

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    Depends on the game situation. I'm winning or nobody's on base, I'm likely swinging.

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  • Chuck_Dizzle29_PSNC Offline
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    Who's hitting? Who's pitching? How many outs? Any runners on base? What has the opponent thrown in this count before?

    Lots of reasons why I could be swinging or taking.

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  • ItsFroggyBabyI Offline
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    I take 2-0 because I’m swinging at 3-0 and 3-1 depending on if I’m playing against a dude with a 12-6 that pitch is nasty it gets me every time

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