This Game is 100% Scripted
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@simonsayz80 said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
@capitalism_usa said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
@simonsayz80 said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
If hitting a ball up the middle is "perfect", then being early should be a good thing. In real baseball, being early is good. Most homeruns are pulled. One of the most annoying things on this forum is ppl complaining about early swing outcomes. Early is good, perfect is good, late is usually bad. Just like irl. Yall are getting hung up on the word "perfect." If you have to be at work at 5:30, early is good, 5:30 is perfect, 5:31 is just late. You dont get punished for coming in at 5:25 lol
This is entirely situational. Yes, being early on a pitch out over the plate or on the inner half will result in good outcomes, if you read the pitch well and turned on it, not if your were fooled or defending the zone. Being early on a breaking ball outside should not be rewarded more-so than sitting back on it and driving it up the middle or to the opposite field.
True, but I dont see that happen in game a lot (being fooled and getting an early swing home run). The only example of this that I see with any regularity is a cutter breaking in on a hitter that is mistaken for a fastball in and roped down the line for a HR. Pulled offspeed pitches on the outside part of the plate result in very low exit velocities (at least in the games I've been a part of). Which leads me to believe the early HRs people complain about are fastballs that were absolutely ambushed.
I dont really have a big issue with early hits, although guys like trout still demolish early away breaking pitches. My issue is more with late side of good being almost a guaranteed lineout. Its not realistic, guys like gwynn and lamahieu could flourish.
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@capitalism_usa said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
@simonsayz80 said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
If hitting a ball up the middle is "perfect", then being early should be a good thing. In real baseball, being early is good. Most homeruns are pulled. One of the most annoying things on this forum is ppl complaining about early swing outcomes. Early is good, perfect is good, late is usually bad. Just like irl. Yall are getting hung up on the word "perfect." If you have to be at work at 5:30, early is good, 5:30 is perfect, 5:31 is just late. You dont get punished for coming in at 5:25 lol
This is entirely situational. Yes, being early on a pitch out over the plate or on the inner half will result in good outcomes, if you read the pitch well and turned on it, not if your were fooled or defending the zone. Being early on a breaking ball outside should not be rewarded more-so than sitting back on it and driving it up the middle or to the opposite field.
Yeah, I mean you could argue that letting the ball travel deeper in the zone, staying inside it and going the other way with an outside pitch could also be “perfect” timing OR “late” timing. It’s always felt a bit wrong to me to call “late” a bad thing, when there is no other way to hit oppo. Maybe it’s just semantics.
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@halfbutt said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
@capitalism_usa said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
@simonsayz80 said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
If hitting a ball up the middle is "perfect", then being early should be a good thing. In real baseball, being early is good. Most homeruns are pulled. One of the most annoying things on this forum is ppl complaining about early swing outcomes. Early is good, perfect is good, late is usually bad. Just like irl. Yall are getting hung up on the word "perfect." If you have to be at work at 5:30, early is good, 5:30 is perfect, 5:31 is just late. You dont get punished for coming in at 5:25 lol
This is entirely situational. Yes, being early on a pitch out over the plate or on the inner half will result in good outcomes, if you read the pitch well and turned on it, not if your were fooled or defending the zone. Being early on a breaking ball outside should not be rewarded more-so than sitting back on it and driving it up the middle or to the opposite field.
Yeah, I mean you could argue that letting the ball travel deeper in the zone, staying inside it and going the other way with an outside pitch could also be “perfect” timing OR “late” timing. It’s always felt a bit wrong to me to call “late” a bad thing, when there is no other way to hit oppo. Maybe it’s just semantics.
I entirely agree with you, i think this is where a lot of the disagreement comes from. Being "early" on an inside fastball or "late" on an outside breaking ball could technically be considered perfect timing. Especially when your thinking about situational hitting.
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@simonsayz80 said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
If hitting a ball up the middle is "perfect", then being early should be a good thing. In real baseball, being early is good. Most homeruns are pulled. One of the most annoying things on this forum is ppl complaining about early swing outcomes. Early is good, perfect is good, late is usually bad. Just like irl. Yall are getting hung up on the word "perfect." If you have to be at work at 5:30, early is good, 5:30 is perfect, 5:31 is just late. You dont get punished for coming in at 5:25 lol
@simonsayz80 said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
If hitting a ball up the middle is "perfect", then being early should be a good thing. In real baseball, being early is good. Most homeruns are pulled. One of the most annoying things on this forum is ppl complaining about early swing outcomes. Early is good, perfect is good, late is usually bad. Just like irl. Yall are getting hung up on the word "perfect." If you have to be at work at 5:30, early is good, 5:30 is perfect, 5:31 is just late. You dont get punished for coming in at 5:25 lol
Not to be rude, but have you played competitive ball before? Early is not good...for the most part. IRL, early on an outside pitch is a weak flyball. Early on an inside pitch is foul, unless you keep your hands inside the baseball. Late on an inside swing (watch Jeter) could create a lot of singles/doubles with good barrel placement. So yes, people have a reason to complain about the % of hits being created with a very early/early swing.
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Yeah, I played in HS. I get that pulling outside pitches isn't ideal. But, since I dont see a lot of good exit velocities on that type of input, I dont think that is what everyone is complaining about. They are complaining about people pulling fastballs that are middle-in or up and in.
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@simonsayz80 said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
If you have to be at work at 5:30, early is good, 5:30 is perfect, 5:31 is just late. You dont get punished for coming in at 5:25 lol
What about 4:00?
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Adapt or Die.
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@capitalism_usa said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
@halfbutt said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
@capitalism_usa said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
@simonsayz80 said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
If hitting a ball up the middle is "perfect", then being early should be a good thing. In real baseball, being early is good. Most homeruns are pulled. One of the most annoying things on this forum is ppl complaining about early swing outcomes. Early is good, perfect is good, late is usually bad. Just like irl. Yall are getting hung up on the word "perfect." If you have to be at work at 5:30, early is good, 5:30 is perfect, 5:31 is just late. You dont get punished for coming in at 5:25 lol
This is entirely situational. Yes, being early on a pitch out over the plate or on the inner half will result in good outcomes, if you read the pitch well and turned on it, not if your were fooled or defending the zone. Being early on a breaking ball outside should not be rewarded more-so than sitting back on it and driving it up the middle or to the opposite field.
Yeah, I mean you could argue that letting the ball travel deeper in the zone, staying inside it and going the other way with an outside pitch could also be “perfect” timing OR “late” timing. It’s always felt a bit wrong to me to call “late” a bad thing, when there is no other way to hit oppo. Maybe it’s just semantics.
I entirely agree with you, i think this is where a lot of the disagreement comes from. Being "early" on an inside fastball or "late" on an outside breaking ball could technically be considered perfect timing. Especially when your thinking about situational hitting.
Exactly.
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@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
@simonsayz80 said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
If you have to be at work at 5:30, early is good, 5:30 is perfect, 5:31 is just late. You dont get punished for coming in at 5:25 lol
What about 4:00?
I mean sure. If you get promoted, are you coworkers going to be like,"I dont get why Jack got promoted, he always comes in too early. I come in perfect at 5:30 everyday... If HR doesn't fix this I'm going to quit"
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The game isn't rigged against you dude. Lol.
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There’s weird variables/formula that goes on it seems. Just played a cpu conquest game against the Yankees on HOF and was held to 1 hit while both the cpus homers the pci wasn’t touching the ball. I had grove who has the best hr stats and the wind was blowing in.
Meanwhile I couldn’t touch the warning track with very good pci placement hitting mistake pitches against a gold pitcher. Try again exact same matchup and win 6-0. It’s just random all over whether it’s h2h or offline.
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@simonsayz80 said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
Yeah, I played in HS. I get that pulling outside pitches isn't ideal. But, since I dont see a lot of good exit velocities on that type of input, I dont think that is what everyone is complaining about. They are complaining about people pulling fastballs that are middle-in or up and in.
Mike Trout consistently pulls outside heaters for homers.
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@Exotic_Combs said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
@simonsayz80 said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
Yeah, I played in HS. I get that pulling outside pitches isn't ideal. But, since I dont see a lot of good exit velocities on that type of input, I dont think that is what everyone is complaining about. They are complaining about people pulling fastballs that are middle-in or up and in.
Mike Trout consistently pulls outside heaters for homers.
Yeah. There are some players that do. Trout does bc he is incredibly strong. Tatis does because he dives over the plate to get to them. Yordon Alvarez is also really strong and has long arms. He can pull a pitch in any location. I dont have a problem with good early swing outcomes
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@capitalism_usa said in This Game is 100% Scripted:
There is a definite rng component to the game, ie how batted balls are hit, exact pitch location, check swing %. I dont enjoy this rng component or think it is necessary, but I can overlook it. My issue it that the "randomness" is not random. Randomness is lacking predictability. When you go an entire 9 inning game getting weak exit velocities or line/flyouts on good/perfect contact, thats not random. When your opponent check swings 10 times in a game an doesnt get called for one and you get called for every one, thats not random. When you suddenly cant throw strikes, walk two batters and know (from experience) you are going to give up a 3 run shot, thats not random. There are quite a few people on these forums who also share my experience, thats not random.
Absolute[y........I am constantly getting all of it, along with my base runners running to the previous bases on a hit ball anywhere.
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Somethings never change
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I've played quite a bit this year and I have to say, aside from the odd obvious 'hmmm' moments, I haven't been left thinking its done overly so and ruined my experience of the game. The truth is there has to be some RNG involved otherwise every squared up ball would be a hit or a HR. Re: pitching, I haven't had the fabled 'perfect pitch went straight down the middle' complaint, My impression is that my bad pitches have been more down to bad input from me (Pure analogue). Just my thoughts.
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All these games have DDA in them. Otherwise they’d only have a select few playing it.
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This happens all the time: I get on base, steal once or twice and the count for the batter is 3-1. I press "Sim to next Appearance" and the count then goes to 0-2 and the batter strikes out almost every single time. How are balls taken away?! (Scripted strikeout) Also, my guy is a pitcher/left fielder. My pitching setup has 62 power and 68 contact and my left fielder setup has 120 power and 118 contact yet most of my homeruns come from my pitcher setup. I rarely even break 400ft on my 120 power setup. This game us something else man.
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So another person on here creates a post just to say he is leaving as if anyone on this forum cares if that person is here or not!
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You obviously care a little since you posted
