To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew
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@CalisGW said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
@Exotic_Combs said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
It’s the fact that the cheesers are still alive and well this late in the cycle. Bunting here and there is fine but in a situation like that, you’re telling your opponent that you don’t trust yourself enough to hit a runner in so you’re going to rely on the broken bunting in the game to do it for you
“Broken bunting “ is only referred to high bunt rating players. The guy had a good chance that it was going to be a bad bunt. He gambled and it paid off. Real baseball does it all the time . Either way, you are hopeless. Can’t enlighten a person incapable of growth.
Hahaha
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I have no problem with bunting if the situation calls for it.
To me, down a run with two outs in the second inning of a BR game, squeezing with Killebrew to me, smacks of desperation. Keep in mind the guy only got to third base on account of my fielder throwing a ball into the stands which would have been the third out.
If the guy doesn’t think he can get a hit or score a run to tie in the third, sure, why not try a surprise bunt. I don’t think he is going to get better at the game that way, but whatever.
I just lost another BR game to a similar player who bunted to get on with Vizquel, stole second and third, then squeezed him in. I think he squeezed another run in the next inning.
Could I defend against this? Sure. I’m just playing a BR game to warm up though. I hardly care about winning and the guy obviously was not a good hitter.
I had the joy of throwing out two of his runners on a double steal though, which did make me smile, but then my time ran out as I went to get my takeout at the door.
To each their own. If you want to cheese, go ahead, but you’re not getting any better at hitting or playing the game like an actual baseball game.
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BR is 3 inning games. Basically 7 thru 9th innings. So he did it with 2 outs and with a unlikely hitter that caught you off guards. Stings? Yes but totally a baseball play, no matter how upset you are. The other situation? Yeah that’s just using the game mechanics to it’s fullest/weakest depending on how you look at it. I wouldn’t consider the second one playing like actual baseball game situation.
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@CalisGW said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
BR is 3 inning games. Basically 7 thru 9th innings. So he did it with 2 outs and with a unlikely hitter that caught you off guards. Stings? Yes but totally a baseball play, no matter how upset you are. The other situation? Yeah that’s just using the game mechanics to it’s fullest/weakest depending on how you look at it. I wouldn’t consider the second one playing like actual baseball game situation.
I will say one last thing about it: it was 83 OVR gold Killebrew. He has 47 contact vs R, 35 bunt. If it were me, I’d have been swinging, based on that alone. If I wanted to bunt, I’d probably have pinch hit someone better at bunting.
You might argue that this would alert my opponent to my intentions. Personally, that makes baseball sense to me.
I highly doubt Killebrew would have been bunting in this situation in an actual game ever, let alone been able to out a perfect one down just past the pitcher’s mound in no man’s land, but in mlb the show 20. This is what you get.
Also, my bad, there was only one out. The throwing error was actually scored E6 on a lineout to center. The CF apparently airmailed the ball past the cutoff, or the shortstop was sleeping and the ball went into the dugout.
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So you made an error that got runner to third, but it’s his fault that runner scored? Sounds like the wrong one is getting the blame here. If someone makes an error, they’re a poor fielder. I’d force them to make a throw too.
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I’m hardly a poor fielder, and FFS this post was about bunting with Harmon effing Killebrew. Your post, Mr Gator, doesn’t really add much to the conversation.
I use buttons so there will be errors from time to time (and that is on me) but the game decided Joey Gallo could not hit the cutoff. Dude was not “testing my fielder’s arm”. He was cheesing a run because he could barely hit. Why else would anyone bunt with Killebrew (except Callis who thinks it was a smart baseball play).
I’m over it, guys.
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It was a smart play. If you can’t make accurate throws, then I’m testing your fielders. Accuracy is the easiest thing in the game. The run doesn’t score if you know how to play defense.
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Maybe it was a smart play. I mean the guy won, right?
My point was, and is, I would not bunt with Harmon Killebrew.
The outfielder’s arm didn’t come into it. It was a perfect bunt past the pitcher’s mound. Nobody fielded it before the run scored.
It wasn’t about testing my fielding. It was about scoring a run when you are struggling to hit.
If he wanted to test my arm, he would have tried to get the ball into the outfield to score on a sac fly.
THAT is what I would have done. If it failed, I would be fine with that, knowing I did a baseball thing in a baseball game.
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Yeah that’s a lame play. Honestly, nobody who’s good at the game bunts. If u have to rely on bunts, sorry, but ur just bad.
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@halfbutt said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
Maybe it was a smart play. I mean the guy won, right?
My point was, and is, I would not bunt with Harmon Killebrew.
The outfielder’s arm didn’t come into it. It was a perfect bunt past the pitcher’s mound. Nobody fielded it before the run scored.
It wasn’t about testing my fielding. It was about scoring a run when you are struggling to hit.
If he wanted to test my arm, he would have tried to get the ball into the outfield to score on a sac fly.
THAT is what I would have done. If it failed, I would be fine with that, knowing I did a baseball thing in a baseball game.
Gold Kilabrew contacts is pretty bad. Out differential is huge. For 2 pages you let everyone assume it was 2 outs. Now you tell us one out? How do you become so pissed off to make a post, yet mess up the outs.
Despite your total lack of attention to details. With one out I would of gone power swing and try a sac fly to score the run. I still can see the suicidal squeeze as legitimate. Dunno your age, but in late 80’s to mid 90’s ( can’t comment on before that as I was too young ) there was a lot of sac bunting and sac flys. Almost every player had to know how to bunt. I remember bunt drills almost every practice.
You have to remember, diff age groups play this game and thus see baseball in a different light. Personally l, if a pitcher can’t go 7 innings consistently and a few complete games here and there , I consider them a candy [censored] snowflake. Yet statistics say it’s better to get then out by the 5th.
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@mitchhammond24 said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
Yeah that’s a lame play. Honestly, nobody who’s good at the game bunts. If u have to rely on bunts, sorry, but ur just bad.
Yet the guy won, soooo yeah. Not everyone is WS player. Most of us are 400 to 600 and floating around 210 to 250 batting average.
You do what you have to, to win as long as it’s legit. ( unlike the Astros)
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@CalisGW said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
@mitchhammond24 said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
Yeah that’s a lame play. Honestly, nobody who’s good at the game bunts. If u have to rely on bunts, sorry, but ur just bad.
Yet the guy won, soooo yeah. Not everyone is WS player. Most of us are 400 to 600 and floating around 210 to 250 batting average.
You do what you have to, to win as long as it’s legit. ( unlike the Astros)
Hitting triangle requires absolutely no skill. Would be more beneficial to try to get better at hitting by swinging the bat and playing respectfully. Yes, I say respectfully, because most players see bunting as cheesy in game bc ur literally just pressing triangle, no skill.
I don’t get mad at people who bunt cuz usually they suck and get clapped, but I def get OP’s frustration.
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@mitchhammond24 said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
@CalisGW said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
@mitchhammond24 said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
Yeah that’s a lame play. Honestly, nobody who’s good at the game bunts. If u have to rely on bunts, sorry, but ur just bad.
Yet the guy won, soooo yeah. Not everyone is WS player. Most of us are 400 to 600 and floating around 210 to 250 batting average.
You do what you have to, to win as long as it’s legit. ( unlike the Astros)
Hitting triangle requires absolutely no skill. Would be more beneficial to try to get better at hitting by swinging the bat and playing respectfully. Yes, I say respectfully, because most players see bunting as cheesy in game bc ur literally just pressing triangle, no skill.
I don’t get mad at people who bunt cuz usually they suck and get clapped, but I def get OP’s frustration.
We don’t know how many wins into the BR run the other guy was at. The guy did win, isn’t that the object of the game? He did a baseball act, last time I checked bunting wasn’t illegal. Just because the guy didn’t win the way you prefer to win does not make it less if a win.
FYI I can’t bunt worth [censored],
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Fun fact: Harmon killebrew and frank thomas are the only 2 players with 500+ home runs to never have a sac bunt in their entire careers.
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@CalisGW said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
@halfbutt said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
Maybe it was a smart play. I mean the guy won, right?
My point was, and is, I would not bunt with Harmon Killebrew.
The outfielder’s arm didn’t come into it. It was a perfect bunt past the pitcher’s mound. Nobody fielded it before the run scored.
It wasn’t about testing my fielding. It was about scoring a run when you are struggling to hit.
Gold Kilabrew contacts is pretty bad. Out differential is huge. For 2 pages you let everyone assume it was 2 outs. Now you tell us one out? How do you become so pissed off to make a post, yet mess up the outs.
Apologies on the outs thing. I went back to read the game summary.
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@CalisGW said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
@mitchhammond24 said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
@CalisGW said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
@mitchhammond24 said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
Yeah that’s a lame play. Honestly, nobody who’s good at the game bunts. If u have to rely on bunts, sorry, but ur just bad.
Yet the guy won, soooo yeah. Not everyone is WS player. Most of us are 400 to 600 and floating around 210 to 250 batting average.
You do what you have to, to win as long as it’s legit. ( unlike the Astros)
Hitting triangle requires absolutely no skill. Would be more beneficial to try to get better at hitting by swinging the bat and playing respectfully. Yes, I say respectfully, because most players see bunting as cheesy in game bc ur literally just pressing triangle, no skill.
I don’t get mad at people who bunt cuz usually they suck and get clapped, but I def get OP’s frustration.
We don’t know how many wins into the BR run the other guy was at. The guy did win, isn’t that the object of the game? He did a baseball act, last time I checked bunting wasn’t illegal. Just because the guy didn’t win the way you prefer to win does not make it less if a win.
FYI I can’t bunt worth [censored],
If he’s bunting with killabrew, I’m pretty certain he’s not far (at all) into the run. Sure it’s a win, there’s no discrepancy there. It’s just cheesy in the eyes of most players. No good player would do something like that.
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@Exotic_Combs said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
Fun fact: Harmon killebrew and frank thomas are the only 2 players with 500+ home runs to never have a sac bunt in their entire careers.
I’m sure he was really working his bunts in practicePretty sure none of these players hit 400 in a season with a hr every 4th at bat too ( except Ted Williams and a few other )
So yeah , two can play this “facts” game
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@mitchhammond24 said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
@CalisGW said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
@mitchhammond24 said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
@CalisGW said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
@mitchhammond24 said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
Yeah that’s a lame play. Honestly, nobody who’s good at the game bunts. If u have to rely on bunts, sorry, but ur just bad.
Yet the guy won, soooo yeah. Not everyone is WS player. Most of us are 400 to 600 and floating around 210 to 250 batting average.
You do what you have to, to win as long as it’s legit. ( unlike the Astros)
Hitting triangle requires absolutely no skill. Would be more beneficial to try to get better at hitting by swinging the bat and playing respectfully. Yes, I say respectfully, because most players see bunting as cheesy in game bc ur literally just pressing triangle, no skill.
I don’t get mad at people who bunt cuz usually they suck and get clapped, but I def get OP’s frustration.
We don’t know how many wins into the BR run the other guy was at. The guy did win, isn’t that the object of the game? He did a baseball act, last time I checked bunting wasn’t illegal. Just because the guy didn’t win the way you prefer to win does not make it less if a win.
FYI I can’t bunt worth [censored],
If he’s bunting with killabrew, I’m pretty certain he’s not far (at all) into the run. Sure it’s a win, there’s no discrepancy there. It’s just cheesy in the eyes of most players. No good player would do something like that.
Really? There have been several threads where WS players who post on these forums have said if they in a deep run, they will do anything for a win. They will only play at home, bunt and do everything and anything for that 11/12 th win.
Careful when you speak in absolutes. Might bite ya.
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@CalisGW said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
@mitchhammond24 said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
@CalisGW said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
@mitchhammond24 said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
@CalisGW said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
@mitchhammond24 said in To the guy who squeezed in a run with Harmon Killebrew:
Yeah that’s a lame play. Honestly, nobody who’s good at the game bunts. If u have to rely on bunts, sorry, but ur just bad.
Yet the guy won, soooo yeah. Not everyone is WS player. Most of us are 400 to 600 and floating around 210 to 250 batting average.
You do what you have to, to win as long as it’s legit. ( unlike the Astros)
Hitting triangle requires absolutely no skill. Would be more beneficial to try to get better at hitting by swinging the bat and playing respectfully. Yes, I say respectfully, because most players see bunting as cheesy in game bc ur literally just pressing triangle, no skill.
I don’t get mad at people who bunt cuz usually they suck and get clapped, but I def get OP’s frustration.
We don’t know how many wins into the BR run the other guy was at. The guy did win, isn’t that the object of the game? He did a baseball act, last time I checked bunting wasn’t illegal. Just because the guy didn’t win the way you prefer to win does not make it less if a win.
FYI I can’t bunt worth [censored],
If he’s bunting with killabrew, I’m pretty certain he’s not far (at all) into the run. Sure it’s a win, there’s no discrepancy there. It’s just cheesy in the eyes of most players. No good player would do something like that.
Really? There have been several threads where WS players who post on these forums have said if they in a deep run, they will do anything for a win. They will only play at home, bunt and do everything and anything for that 11/12 th win.
Careful when you speak in absolutes. Might bite ya.
Might bite me. Lol yea okay. Honestly there’s quite a few players who make ws that I don’t consider good. You can make ws with a .500 record playing a ton of games. If people have to “bunt and do everything and anything” to make ws, then they’re really nothing special at all imo. Lol
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I said WS players in a deep run ( implied BR ). There was a long thread about what people do/ will do for the 12th win and some good players said for the 12 th win they would do things they wouldn’t do in RS. Just stating facts. Luckily your opinion is just that , your opinion on who is good. Just like my opinion is just that, my opinion.
Facts don’t have opinions, just saying.