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    Full disclosure, MLBTS has been my favorite video game for the last decade. However, since getting my PS5, I've expanded my game library, and with that, I've severely decreased playing this game.

    First, I want to point out that no game is perfect, but after playing a variety of video games, it's apparent that MLBTS (especially this year), unequivocally has the worst gameplay out of any sports game I've played in a looooong time. Yes, this has been a large topic of discussion for a while, but even playing the most basic of games like PGA 2k21 has shown me that setting a foundation by getting the basic fundamental gameplay to a consistent level is the most important aspect of every sports video game. I hope SDS can get this right next year...

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    @GOtexas1 said in Hot Take:

    Full disclosure, MLBTS has been my favorite video game for the last decade. However, since getting my PS5, I've expanded my game library, and with that, I've severely decreased playing this game.

    First, I want to point out that no game is perfect, but after playing a variety of video games, it's apparent that MLBTS (especially this year), unequivocally has the worst gameplay out of any sports game I've played in a looooong time. Yes, this has been a large topic of discussion for a while, but even playing the most basic of games like PGA 2k21 has shown me that setting a foundation by getting the basic fundamental gameplay to a consistent level is the most important aspect of every sports video game. I hope SDS can get this right next year...

    Hah you must not play 2k or Madden!

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    It’s frustrating, we’ve accepted the flaws year after year because we love the game and want it to succeed. Sadly, it feels pretty dated at this point, they’ve rehashed the same game for half a decade and it shows in many areas now, from the half assed gameplay that doesn’t emulate actual bat and ball physics, to the same tired commentary lines we’ve heard from Matty V year in year out. Maybe we’re to blame as consumers for just accepting the same flawed product, but you’d hope that there’s something on the horizon for the franchise other than the same game with new card art yet again. This would have been a great game 3-4 years ago, but the point is, it was perfectly achievable 3-4 years ago. There’s nothing new, innovative or different that couldn’t have been worked into MLB ‘16 or ‘17. There’s no real improvement from year to year and occasionally the game even takes retrograde steps from its prequel.

    In this day and age, games should have some kind of wow factor and that’s lacking in MLB the Show. They can’t even make a decent franchise mode for offline players which would be the most basic form of baseball video game. We had baseball games that could simulate AI player progression realistically and offered more options for offline players fifteen years or more ago. It’s not good and to be honest, it’s only down to a lack of competition that they feel confident they can pull it off every year. It’s MLB the Show or RBI Baseball and RBI Baseball is barely a functioning game, much less a simulation.

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    "expands game library" on ps5 ... Plays Golf 🤣

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    This has been the worst version of the show since 17, and I’ve been really frustrated with it especially lately, but to be fair I can’t really blame STS. I’m sure the pandemic and lockdown prevented the programmers from honing the gameplay throughout the year as they would in years past. Because of this, A lot of things that would normally get fine-tuned and fixed Did not. It is what it is and I’m hoping next year’s game will have those issues ironed out, though with lock down stretching into December and beyond, who knows?

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    @GOtexas1 said in Hot Take:

    Full disclosure, MLBTS has been my favorite video game for the last decade. However, since getting my PS5, I've expanded my game library, and with that, I've severely decreased playing this game.

    First, I want to point out that no game is perfect, but after playing a variety of video games, it's apparent that MLBTS (especially this year), unequivocally has the worst gameplay out of any sports game I've played in a looooong time. Yes, this has been a large topic of discussion for a while, but even playing the most basic of games like PGA 2k21 has shown me that setting a foundation by getting the basic fundamental gameplay to a consistent level is the most important aspect of every sports video game. I hope SDS can get this right next year...

    Real question cause I have no idea, but is PGA fun?

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    @WarriorsAreCool7 said in Hot Take:

    @GOtexas1 said in Hot Take:

    Full disclosure, MLBTS has been my favorite video game for the last decade. However, since getting my PS5, I've expanded my game library, and with that, I've severely decreased playing this game.

    First, I want to point out that no game is perfect, but after playing a variety of video games, it's apparent that MLBTS (especially this year), unequivocally has the worst gameplay out of any sports game I've played in a looooong time. Yes, this has been a large topic of discussion for a while, but even playing the most basic of games like PGA 2k21 has shown me that setting a foundation by getting the basic fundamental gameplay to a consistent level is the most important aspect of every sports video game. I hope SDS can get this right next year...

    Hah you must not play 2k or Madden!

    Actually, I've been playing both and would say with confidence that the gameplay is better in both Madden and 2K than MLBTS

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    @GOtexas1 said in Hot Take:

    @WarriorsAreCool7 said in Hot Take:

    @GOtexas1 said in Hot Take:

    Full disclosure, MLBTS has been my favorite video game for the last decade. However, since getting my PS5, I've expanded my game library, and with that, I've severely decreased playing this game.

    First, I want to point out that no game is perfect, but after playing a variety of video games, it's apparent that MLBTS (especially this year), unequivocally has the worst gameplay out of any sports game I've played in a looooong time. Yes, this has been a large topic of discussion for a while, but even playing the most basic of games like PGA 2k21 has shown me that setting a foundation by getting the basic fundamental gameplay to a consistent level is the most important aspect of every sports video game. I hope SDS can get this right next year...

    Hah you must not play 2k or Madden!

    Actually, I've been playing both and would say with confidence that the gameplay is better in both Madden and 2K than MLBTS

    And credibility is suddenly lost. Madden is absolute donkey, literally a game of animations and complete rng. 2k I can't remember tbh.

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    @GOtexas1 said in Hot Take:

    @WarriorsAreCool7 said in Hot Take:

    @GOtexas1 said in Hot Take:

    Full disclosure, MLBTS has been my favorite video game for the last decade. However, since getting my PS5, I've expanded my game library, and with that, I've severely decreased playing this game.

    First, I want to point out that no game is perfect, but after playing a variety of video games, it's apparent that MLBTS (especially this year), unequivocally has the worst gameplay out of any sports game I've played in a looooong time. Yes, this has been a large topic of discussion for a while, but even playing the most basic of games like PGA 2k21 has shown me that setting a foundation by getting the basic fundamental gameplay to a consistent level is the most important aspect of every sports video game. I hope SDS can get this right next year...

    Hah you must not play 2k or Madden!

    Actually, I've been playing both and would say with confidence that the gameplay is better in both Madden and 2K than MLBTS

    I'd have to disagree. Just recently, madden's community manager made a video about how awful Madden has become. Nobody above him is listening to the fans. MLBTS isn't there...yet. They at least try to improve content and a little bit of detailed gameplay.

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    It’s a pointless debate. They all have somewhat of a monopoly of the market and they all 3 suck in their own ways 🙃

    Edit: I will say that I have the most fun playing MLB though!

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    @Ikasnu said in Hot Take:

    @GOtexas1 said in Hot Take:

    @WarriorsAreCool7 said in Hot Take:

    @GOtexas1 said in Hot Take:

    Full disclosure, MLBTS has been my favorite video game for the last decade. However, since getting my PS5, I've expanded my game library, and with that, I've severely decreased playing this game.

    First, I want to point out that no game is perfect, but after playing a variety of video games, it's apparent that MLBTS (especially this year), unequivocally has the worst gameplay out of any sports game I've played in a looooong time. Yes, this has been a large topic of discussion for a while, but even playing the most basic of games like PGA 2k21 has shown me that setting a foundation by getting the basic fundamental gameplay to a consistent level is the most important aspect of every sports video game. I hope SDS can get this right next year...

    Hah you must not play 2k or Madden!

    Actually, I've been playing both and would say with confidence that the gameplay is better in both Madden and 2K than MLBTS

    And credibility is suddenly lost. Madden is absolute donkey, literally a game of animations and complete rng. 2k I can't remember tbh.

    How so? I would argue the fundamental gameplay for Madden is well above MLBTS. When playing this game, especially online, there are so many inconsistent and often unexplainable outcomes. I could go on all day about bad pci timing & location, errors, inconsistent pitch location results, fielding, baserunning, etc. Yes, Madded does have many flaws, but at least the gameplay is consistent enough to a level where outcomes can be explained.

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    There’s pros & cons to DD in the show...Yes, Gameplay is bad & needs fixed in a big way for 21....However, Unlike Ultimate Team in Madden & 2K - In DD You can still win with players that were available at launch, You can’t do that in any other sports game.

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    @GOtexas1 said in Hot Take:

    @Ikasnu said in Hot Take:

    @GOtexas1 said in Hot Take:

    @WarriorsAreCool7 said in Hot Take:

    @GOtexas1 said in Hot Take:

    Full disclosure, MLBTS has been my favorite video game for the last decade. However, since getting my PS5, I've expanded my game library, and with that, I've severely decreased playing this game.

    First, I want to point out that no game is perfect, but after playing a variety of video games, it's apparent that MLBTS (especially this year), unequivocally has the worst gameplay out of any sports game I've played in a looooong time. Yes, this has been a large topic of discussion for a while, but even playing the most basic of games like PGA 2k21 has shown me that setting a foundation by getting the basic fundamental gameplay to a consistent level is the most important aspect of every sports video game. I hope SDS can get this right next year...

    Hah you must not play 2k or Madden!

    Actually, I've been playing both and would say with confidence that the gameplay is better in both Madden and 2K than MLBTS

    And credibility is suddenly lost. Madden is absolute donkey, literally a game of animations and complete rng. 2k I can't remember tbh.

    How so? I would argue the fundamental gameplay for Madden is well above MLBTS. When playing this game, especially online, there are so many inconsistent and often unexplainable outcomes. I could go on all day about bad pci timing & location, errors, inconsistent pitch location results, fielding, baserunning, etc. Yes, Madded does have many flaws, but at least the gameplay is consistent enough to a level where outcomes can be explained.

    Completely disagree and here's why.

    Madden has an entire stat attributed to RNG, its called awareness and only impacts AI, does nothing for the user. What makes it bad is that it affects 20 players on the field on every play in a h2h game where there is no ability to control each players actions. Only interaction you have is pre snap or of you manually switch to a player.

    Furthermore, play results are limited solely on the animation you get. For instance there is a catch animation where the receiver literally runs in place to force a catch with no chance at YAC.

    There are scripted "delays" on punts and field goals soley intended to be blocked.

    Biggest form of RNG MLB has revolves around pitching. In the past this wasn't an issue, why they changed this I have no idea. Hitting is rng also, however nowhere near the level I believe Madden to be at. At least with hitting you can have a better impact on getting positive rng through pci location and timing.

    My thought process when comparing the two.

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    @JediOfArgonath said in Hot Take:

    There’s pros & cons to DD in the show...Yes, Gameplay is bad & needs fixed in a big way for 21....However, Unlike Ultimate Team in Madden & 2K - In DD You can still win with players that were available at launch, You can’t do that in any other sports game.

    You can win with any cards, but you can also lose with any cards. It’s not so much this that gives cause for concern, after all line up variety and diversity are a positive aspect to diamond dynasty generally. The problem here is you can win without actually outplaying your opponent and lose in a converse fashion. I’m not talking about a 3 inning BR [censored] shoot where luck can play a bigger part than skill. I’m talking about a RS game where you can play nine innings, have consistently better inputs than your opponent, exhibit superior plate discipline and tactical awareness, yet come away having been absolutely destroyed by a bad player, taking bad swings throughout the entire game. That’s not really acceptable.

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