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  • sbevans142_PSNS Offline
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    #10

    I think a lot of the people who are not excited about this J Ram are people who already have a 99 J Ram.

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    I think the hate is multi level

    1. JRam now has two 99 cards while a number of legends dont have a 99 yet

    2. Most people who post in this forum have reach a prestige level high enough to take 99 JRam again and have 2 of him now.

    3. People really want Freeman as the POTM even though he is clearly getting a 99 finest

    4. There is a level of frustration that you have to complete a collection in order to unlock and complete the program

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  • Hikes83_PSNH Offline
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    #12

    @CDNMoneyMaker93 said in The J Ram hate ....:

    I think the hate is multi level

    1. JRam now has two 99 cards while a number of legends dont have a 99 yet

    2. Most people who post in this forum have reach a prestige level high enough to take 99 JRam again and have 2 of him now.

    3. People really want Freeman as the POTM even though he is clearly getting a 99 finest

    4. There is a level of frustration that you have to complete a collection in order to unlock and complete the program

    1. Yeah and? One is a flashback and it just so happens he got hot this month and got a very deserving 99. It wasn’t planned in the game’s cycle.

    2. Again, so what? For most people, that Ramirez wasn’t even close to making their lineup. This POTM version is so much better. So for those who chose his Finest already and play him, they got a nice upgrade.

    3. Fair point. Freddie was just as deserving but has done it consistently the entire year. He’s definitely getting finest or possible MVP.

    4. That’s the biggest misconception on here. Doing all the topps now moments, completing the program gave you all the cards you needed for free. If people were too greedy to sell them once they were acquired, that’s their problem. The only “real” cost to doing this program is the 50000 in exchange. Which is anywhere between 3-5K stubs

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  • Jeviduty_PSNJ Offline
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    #13

    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Jeviduty said in The J Ram hate ....:

    It's not a bad card just isn't the best option that's all it is

    What is the best option?

    Many combinations are better...

    If at 3rd

    Tatis (if for some stupid reason not at SS/2B)
    Sheffield
    Hornsby
    Castellanos

    if at 2nd

    Tatis
    Hornsby
    Honus

    if at SS

    Tatis
    Honus
    Mondesi
    Prestige Jroll
    Banks

    if at 1B

    ...why?

    and LF unplayable cause of speed IMO.
    I'm literally starting him only because I'm a die-hard tribe fan, no other justifiable reason lol.

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  • Mickdrenalen_PSNM Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #14

    I have to purchase 1 card to finish his collection so I will give him and mondesi a shot

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  • Hubijerk_PSNH Offline
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    #15

    @Jeviduty said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Jeviduty said in The J Ram hate ....:

    It's not a bad card just isn't the best option that's all it is

    What is the best option?

    Many combinations are better...

    If at 3rd

    Tatis (if for some stupid reason not at SS/2B)
    Sheffield
    Hornsby
    Castellanos

    if at 2nd

    Tatis
    Hornsby
    Honus

    if at SS

    Tatis
    Honus
    Mondesi
    Prestige Jroll
    Banks

    if at 1B

    ...why?

    and LF unplayable cause of speed IMO.
    I'm literally starting him only because I'm a die-hard tribe fan, no other justifiable reason lol.

    I think 3rd makes the most sense, so lets stick with that. For the record I've been running Schmidt and I believe defense matters at 3rd so Hornsby's poor D and weak arm are a non starter. Shef has the arm, but D is poor but I think he's more viable than Hornsby.

    I run Tatis at SS and I have Mondesi at 2B right now but I could see alternating Hornsby there as I have been in the early innings.

    As far as castellanos goes, how can you like him but not like Jram? better hitting stats, beter D and arm and switch hitting...

    I think J-Ram is the best 3rd baseman available. Schmidt, Brett and Donaldson are tier 2 and everyone else like banks, Minoso, Shef. etc. are tier 3.

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  • Jeviduty_PSNJ Offline
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    #16

    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Jeviduty said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Jeviduty said in The J Ram hate ....:

    It's not a bad card just isn't the best option that's all it is

    What is the best option?

    Many combinations are better...

    If at 3rd

    Tatis (if for some stupid reason not at SS/2B)
    Sheffield
    Hornsby
    Castellanos

    if at 2nd

    Tatis
    Hornsby
    Honus

    if at SS

    Tatis
    Honus
    Mondesi
    Prestige Jroll
    Banks

    if at 1B

    ...why?

    and LF unplayable cause of speed IMO.
    I'm literally starting him only because I'm a die-hard tribe fan, no other justifiable reason lol.

    I think 3rd makes the most sense, so lets stick with that. For the record I've been running Schmidt and I believe defense matters at 3rd so Hornsby's poor D and weak arm are a non starter. Shef has the arm, but D is poor but I think he's more viable than Hornsby.

    I run Tatis at SS and I have Mondesi at 2B right now but I could see alternating Hornsby there as I have been in the early innings.

    As far as castellanos goes, how can you like him but not like Jram? better hitting stats, beter D and arm and switch hitting...

    I think J-Ram is the best 3rd baseman available. Schmidt, Brett and Donaldson are tier 2 and everyone else like banks, Minoso, Shef. etc. are tier 3.

    Completely disagree with discrediting Shef and Hornsby like that. I think you're giving defense way too much value at third, but that's just my opinion.

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  • Hubijerk_PSNH Offline
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    #17

    @Jeviduty said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Jeviduty said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Jeviduty said in The J Ram hate ....:

    It's not a bad card just isn't the best option that's all it is

    What is the best option?

    Many combinations are better...

    If at 3rd

    Tatis (if for some stupid reason not at SS/2B)
    Sheffield
    Hornsby
    Castellanos

    if at 2nd

    Tatis
    Hornsby
    Honus

    if at SS

    Tatis
    Honus
    Mondesi
    Prestige Jroll
    Banks

    if at 1B

    ...why?

    and LF unplayable cause of speed IMO.
    I'm literally starting him only because I'm a die-hard tribe fan, no other justifiable reason lol.

    I think 3rd makes the most sense, so lets stick with that. For the record I've been running Schmidt and I believe defense matters at 3rd so Hornsby's poor D and weak arm are a non starter. Shef has the arm, but D is poor but I think he's more viable than Hornsby.

    I run Tatis at SS and I have Mondesi at 2B right now but I could see alternating Hornsby there as I have been in the early innings.

    As far as castellanos goes, how can you like him but not like Jram? better hitting stats, beter D and arm and switch hitting...

    I think J-Ram is the best 3rd baseman available. Schmidt, Brett and Donaldson are tier 2 and everyone else like banks, Minoso, Shef. etc. are tier 3.

    Completely disagree with discrediting Shef and Hornsby like that. I think you're giving defense way too much value at third, but that's just my opinion.

    Were at a time in the game where a runner getting to 1st could easily mean a runner on 3rd very quickly. Cobb, Wagner, Mondesi, mantle, Trout, Henderson... Lots of speed out there. A mishandled bunt, a weak grounder, contact to the backhand side... I argue D at 3rd is more important at this stage of the game than it was at any other point.

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  • C Offline
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    CDNMoneyMaker93
    replied to Guest on last edited by
    #18

    @Hikes83 said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @CDNMoneyMaker93 said in The J Ram hate ....:

    I think the hate is multi level

    1. JRam now has two 99 cards while a number of legends dont have a 99 yet

    2. Most people who post in this forum have reach a prestige level high enough to take 99 JRam again and have 2 of him now.

    3. People really want Freeman as the POTM even though he is clearly getting a 99 finest

    4. There is a level of frustration that you have to complete a collection in order to unlock and complete the program

    1. Yeah and? One is a flashback and it just so happens he got hot this month and got a very deserving 99. It wasn’t planned in the game’s cycle.

    2. Again, so what? For most people, that Ramirez wasn’t even close to making their lineup. This POTM version is so much better. So for those who chose his Finest already and play him, they got a nice upgrade.

    3. Fair point. Freddie was just as deserving but has done it consistently the entire year. He’s definitely getting finest or possible MVP.

    4. That’s the biggest misconception on here. Doing all the topps now moments, completing the program gave you all the cards you needed for free. If people were too greedy to sell them once they were acquired, that’s their problem. The only “real” cost to doing this program is the 50000 in exchange. Which is anywhere between 3-5K stubs

    I dont disagree with any of your point I was merely point out what has people up in arms.

    I like the choice and the card and I'll use both of the cards when doing team builds.

    Maybe I wasnt as clear as I should have been on my points

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  • Bizien10_PSNB Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #19

    Don't really understand the hate, but I think it mostly has to do with him already having another 99 in the game. For what it's worth, though, this card seems way better than his other 99, just looking at the attributes.

    Having played with him in an extremely small sample size (~4 RS games) I only have one hit and I'm not going to keep him in too much longer if I can't start hitting with him because I have other options for 3rd that I like (Sheffield, Hornsby, Foxx) and I'd also like to give Honus a try at 3rd when I eventually buy his card.

    Even if I can't make it work with J-Ram though, the program was worth it for Mondesi. That card is just insane.

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  • lazy_toast_PSNL Offline
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    #20

    I’ve hit 4 HRs in 8 games with him and took Sheff spot at third. No way I’m playing Hornsby at third and Mondesi plays at 2nd so I sold Honus. Castellanos is great at third

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  • Jeviduty_PSNJ Offline
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    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Jeviduty said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Jeviduty said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Jeviduty said in The J Ram hate ....:

    It's not a bad card just isn't the best option that's all it is

    What is the best option?

    Many combinations are better...

    If at 3rd

    Tatis (if for some stupid reason not at SS/2B)
    Sheffield
    Hornsby
    Castellanos

    if at 2nd

    Tatis
    Hornsby
    Honus

    if at SS

    Tatis
    Honus
    Mondesi
    Prestige Jroll
    Banks

    if at 1B

    ...why?

    and LF unplayable cause of speed IMO.
    I'm literally starting him only because I'm a die-hard tribe fan, no other justifiable reason lol.

    I think 3rd makes the most sense, so lets stick with that. For the record I've been running Schmidt and I believe defense matters at 3rd so Hornsby's poor D and weak arm are a non starter. Shef has the arm, but D is poor but I think he's more viable than Hornsby.

    I run Tatis at SS and I have Mondesi at 2B right now but I could see alternating Hornsby there as I have been in the early innings.

    As far as castellanos goes, how can you like him but not like Jram? better hitting stats, beter D and arm and switch hitting...

    I think J-Ram is the best 3rd baseman available. Schmidt, Brett and Donaldson are tier 2 and everyone else like banks, Minoso, Shef. etc. are tier 3.

    Completely disagree with discrediting Shef and Hornsby like that. I think you're giving defense way too much value at third, but that's just my opinion.

    Were at a time in the game where a runner getting to 1st could easily mean a runner on 3rd very quickly. Cobb, Wagner, Mondesi, mantle, Trout, Henderson... Lots of speed out there. A mishandled bunt, a weak grounder, contact to the backhand side... I argue D at 3rd is more important at this stage of the game than it was at any other point.

    On paper that is the logic we'd hope the game would be consistent with but this game has proven day in day out (Been playing ranked since April) that the animations given to these fielders are anything but consistent. It's pretty bad out there, I'll take my chances and win games with the elite bat options at 3rd.

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  • Hubijerk_PSNH Offline
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    @lazy_toast said in The J Ram hate ....:

    I’ve hit 4 HRs in 8 games with him and took Sheff spot at third. No way I’m playing Hornsby at third and Mondesi plays at 2nd so I sold Honus. Castellanos is great at third

    I have Honus on the bench, him and Cobb together have almost every position covered without really losing anything with high contact and speed which you want in a close game in the late innings..

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  • Hubijerk_PSNH Offline
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    Hubijerk_PSN
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    @Jeviduty said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Jeviduty said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Jeviduty said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Jeviduty said in The J Ram hate ....:

    It's not a bad card just isn't the best option that's all it is

    What is the best option?

    Many combinations are better...

    If at 3rd

    Tatis (if for some stupid reason not at SS/2B)
    Sheffield
    Hornsby
    Castellanos

    if at 2nd

    Tatis
    Hornsby
    Honus

    if at SS

    Tatis
    Honus
    Mondesi
    Prestige Jroll
    Banks

    if at 1B

    ...why?

    and LF unplayable cause of speed IMO.
    I'm literally starting him only because I'm a die-hard tribe fan, no other justifiable reason lol.

    I think 3rd makes the most sense, so lets stick with that. For the record I've been running Schmidt and I believe defense matters at 3rd so Hornsby's poor D and weak arm are a non starter. Shef has the arm, but D is poor but I think he's more viable than Hornsby.

    I run Tatis at SS and I have Mondesi at 2B right now but I could see alternating Hornsby there as I have been in the early innings.

    As far as castellanos goes, how can you like him but not like Jram? better hitting stats, beter D and arm and switch hitting...

    I think J-Ram is the best 3rd baseman available. Schmidt, Brett and Donaldson are tier 2 and everyone else like banks, Minoso, Shef. etc. are tier 3.

    Completely disagree with discrediting Shef and Hornsby like that. I think you're giving defense way too much value at third, but that's just my opinion.

    Were at a time in the game where a runner getting to 1st could easily mean a runner on 3rd very quickly. Cobb, Wagner, Mondesi, mantle, Trout, Henderson... Lots of speed out there. A mishandled bunt, a weak grounder, contact to the backhand side... I argue D at 3rd is more important at this stage of the game than it was at any other point.

    On paper that is the logic we'd hope the game would be consistent with but this game has proven day in day out (Been playing ranked since April) that the animations given to these fielders are anything but consistent. It's pretty bad out there, I'll take my chances and win games with the elite bat options at 3rd.

    Fair enough, I'm not the best hitter so I need to keep my opponents runs to a minimum.

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    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @lazy_toast said in The J Ram hate ....:

    I’ve hit 4 HRs in 8 games with him and took Sheff spot at third. No way I’m playing Hornsby at third and Mondesi plays at 2nd so I sold Honus. Castellanos is great at third

    I have Honus on the bench, him and Cobb together have almost every position covered without really losing anything with high contact and speed which you want in a close game in the late innings..

    Turner, Mantle, and Mondesi got speed covered for me

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    @lazy_toast said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @lazy_toast said in The J Ram hate ....:

    I’ve hit 4 HRs in 8 games with him and took Sheff spot at third. No way I’m playing Hornsby at third and Mondesi plays at 2nd so I sold Honus. Castellanos is great at third

    I have Honus on the bench, him and Cobb together have almost every position covered without really losing anything with high contact and speed which you want in a close game in the late innings..

    Turner, Mantle, and Mondesi got speed covered for me

    You have them on the bench to pinch hit or run for you're slower guys?

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    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @lazy_toast said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @lazy_toast said in The J Ram hate ....:

    I’ve hit 4 HRs in 8 games with him and took Sheff spot at third. No way I’m playing Hornsby at third and Mondesi plays at 2nd so I sold Honus. Castellanos is great at third

    I have Honus on the bench, him and Cobb together have almost every position covered without really losing anything with high contact and speed which you want in a close game in the late innings..

    Turner, Mantle, and Mondesi got speed covered for me

    You have them on the bench to pinch hit or run for you're slower guys?

    Mantle and Mondesi start with Turner and sometimes Jackie on the bench. Turner started at 2B for me and Mondesi was the only reason he went to the bench. I liked Turner better than Hornsby and Honus

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    @lazy_toast said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @lazy_toast said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @Hubijerk said in The J Ram hate ....:

    @lazy_toast said in The J Ram hate ....:

    I’ve hit 4 HRs in 8 games with him and took Sheff spot at third. No way I’m playing Hornsby at third and Mondesi plays at 2nd so I sold Honus. Castellanos is great at third

    I have Honus on the bench, him and Cobb together have almost every position covered without really losing anything with high contact and speed which you want in a close game in the late innings..

    Turner, Mantle, and Mondesi got speed covered for me

    You have them on the bench to pinch hit or run for you're slower guys?

    Mantle and Mondesi start with Turner and sometimes Jackie on the bench

    I figured as much, I like the versatility of having multiple speed and contact guys a long with the power bats. let's say I get on with Walker. he's fast, but not Cobb fast plus I can put Cobb in left and move Trout or mantle to Right. Jram get's walked in a tie game in the 9th.. Honus can pinch run then handle business at 3rd without missing a beat if it goes to extra innings. etc.

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    Exactly what I do. I don’t mind not having to many speed guys not starting. A dont bunt cheese or steel enough to warrant them staying in the lineup. But I do like having two on the bench in those situations you mentioned. Makes your club very versatile. That’s why I liked Trae Turner. Played multiple positions too

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    @lazy_toast said in The J Ram hate ....:

    Exactly what I do. I don’t mind not having to many speed guys not starting. A dont bunt cheese or steel enough to warrant them staying in the lineup. But I do like having two on the bench in those situations you mentioned. Makes your club very versatile. That’s why I liked Trae Turner. Played multiple positions too

    Yeah, I really like Turner, i was starting Hornsby then switching over to Turner later in the game, he has way more pop than his numbers say and I hit more than my fair share of dingers with him, but Mondesi is like a switch hitting Turner on steroids... I've hit just as many bombs, some of them big ones against righties with his 65 power as I have lefties. His left handed power def. seems bigger than the 65 number.

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