The three features that received the most L's in todays stream
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@Dolenz said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
- Prestige Diamonds can only be earned by grinding stats online
- If you collect a card then that card is completely unsellable. No quick selling.
- Three Batter minimum applies in BR (I don't play BR and this seems extreme even to me)
Overall, I loved all the new stuff and it pushed me forward to pre-order. The first one is really the only one that kind of tilted me a little.
I understand your thoughts. I and half and half on the no quick sell thing. I hate the 3 batter minimum in real life and in the game.
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@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@maskedgrappler said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Furious_Boogers said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@GradektheBard said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
SDS has always favored online play because it makes you feel that you need better players so then you will buy more stubs. It is a cash grab, just like "no quick selling collected cards" is. SDS has never cared much for offline players in DD. These reasons mean that I will be only playing offline leagues this time around. I am not spending extra money just to be regulated to the 2nd class citizen status again.
Seriously? Online has RS, BR, and events. Offline has conquest, affinity, MTO (new in 19), moments (new in 19), and showdown (new in 20). SDS does an amazing job for offline. And even these red diamonds are pretty easy stat grinds online (no absurd single game missions) that you can literally do on veteran difficulty by keeping yourself at the lowest level of RS.
I agree, they have no doubt answered the pleas the offline guys have had. The only thing that is strange is those offline modes that have been added do not utilize your DD cards. Moments has preset players to use, showdown is a BR draft style. So the only mode offline specific for your DD cards is Conquest, other than straight up vs CPU. I do think trying to arrange an online league and kick out users maybe the best thing for Offline guys to do to have something vs CPU that utilizes your acquired cards.
I agree with everything outside of your opening sentence. They 'answered' the pleas for offline folks in the same manner custom leagues answered the pleas of online franchise users (ie. they didn't).
No, just because you don't like the answer doesnt mean it is not an answer.
Its an answer to a question no one asked.
It wasnt a question that was asked, it was an answer to people pleading for more things to do in DD offline.
But there was lots to do offline last year. The problems were that the stuff they added has nothing to do with using your DD team, which is the whole point of the mode. So we still gave the same problem as last year, play conquest over and over or nothing.
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@ImDFC said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@KingsCountyOG718 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@ImDFC said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
The collection one doesn't really bother me all that much. The Prestige Diamonds being locked behind online grinds irked me though. Online already basically had a monopoly on BR rewards, why give them another with this?
Listen fellas it's only right certain cards be obtained through online DD..It is a different mode that plays against real competition..What's wrong with having different cards for a whole different mode..Actually it's a whole different game..Def not in a controlled environment, unless you consider the room you're playing in just that..Another analogy is a game being on rails guiding you. The you play GTA and see or WOW and see a wide open world where you'll meet and go against a whole world of competition. So I see nothing wrong with having different cards and or sets I'll be grinding for the same cards you will have and building a perfect team for me to beat some real people..Not knocking off line play at all either my fellow nationers. Just saying theres another side to this game and it's only right it has access to different cards.
I agree, you should have certain online cards. In fact, you already have them. BR Flawless cards. As stated before, the average player cannot obtain them without spending real money
Not true.SDS gave us all the ability to have "end game" team just by the free cards and packs..Conquest and just playing will give you cards. Google how people flip those..Also have moments all over the place.A little luck will make that go even further. I only spent $20 extra I'm stubs..Rest of my team is just from building, flipping and seeing who works best for me. If this was Madden or 2k I would agree, but this isnt. Cant have your cake and eat it too..BTW know what it takes to acquire a BR reward?? Hence why those things are super rare, well they were anyway..
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@maskedgrappler said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@maskedgrappler said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Furious_Boogers said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@GradektheBard said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
SDS has always favored online play because it makes you feel that you need better players so then you will buy more stubs. It is a cash grab, just like "no quick selling collected cards" is. SDS has never cared much for offline players in DD. These reasons mean that I will be only playing offline leagues this time around. I am not spending extra money just to be regulated to the 2nd class citizen status again.
Seriously? Online has RS, BR, and events. Offline has conquest, affinity, MTO (new in 19), moments (new in 19), and showdown (new in 20). SDS does an amazing job for offline. And even these red diamonds are pretty easy stat grinds online (no absurd single game missions) that you can literally do on veteran difficulty by keeping yourself at the lowest level of RS.
I agree, they have no doubt answered the pleas the offline guys have had. The only thing that is strange is those offline modes that have been added do not utilize your DD cards. Moments has preset players to use, showdown is a BR draft style. So the only mode offline specific for your DD cards is Conquest, other than straight up vs CPU. I do think trying to arrange an online league and kick out users maybe the best thing for Offline guys to do to have something vs CPU that utilizes your acquired cards.
I agree with everything outside of your opening sentence. They 'answered' the pleas for offline folks in the same manner custom leagues answered the pleas of online franchise users (ie. they didn't).
No, just because you don't like the answer doesnt mean it is not an answer.
Its an answer to a question no one asked.
It wasnt a question that was asked, it was an answer to people pleading for more things to do in DD offline.
But there was lots to do offline last year. The problems were that the stuff they added has nothing to do with using your DD team, which is the whole point of the mode. So we still gave the same problem as last year, play conquest over and over or nothing.
@maskedgrappler said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@maskedgrappler said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Furious_Boogers said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@GradektheBard said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
SDS has always favored online play because it makes you feel that you need better players so then you will buy more stubs. It is a cash grab, just like "no quick selling collected cards" is. SDS has never cared much for offline players in DD. These reasons mean that I will be only playing offline leagues this time around. I am not spending extra money just to be regulated to the 2nd class citizen status again.
Seriously? Online has RS, BR, and events. Offline has conquest, affinity, MTO (new in 19), moments (new in 19), and showdown (new in 20). SDS does an amazing job for offline. And even these red diamonds are pretty easy stat grinds online (no absurd single game missions) that you can literally do on veteran difficulty by keeping yourself at the lowest level of RS.
I agree, they have no doubt answered the pleas the offline guys have had. The only thing that is strange is those offline modes that have been added do not utilize your DD cards. Moments has preset players to use, showdown is a BR draft style. So the only mode offline specific for your DD cards is Conquest, other than straight up vs CPU. I do think trying to arrange an online league and kick out users maybe the best thing for Offline guys to do to have something vs CPU that utilizes your acquired cards.
I agree with everything outside of your opening sentence. They 'answered' the pleas for offline folks in the same manner custom leagues answered the pleas of online franchise users (ie. they didn't).
No, just because you don't like the answer doesnt mean it is not an answer.
Its an answer to a question no one asked.
It wasnt a question that was asked, it was an answer to people pleading for more things to do in DD offline.
But there was lots to do offline last year. The problems were that the stuff they added has nothing to do with using your DD team, which is the whole point of the mode. So we still gave the same problem as last year, play conquest over and over or nothing.
Still better than doing nothing, like what happens to franchise.
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Again, SDS treats offline DD players like 2nd class citizens. The reason is because they believe that offline players do not buy as many stubs as online players. And that may even be true. But the REASON it is true is that SDS does not give offline players much to do with the cards. We beg and plead for ways to use our DD cards offline, which would also give offline players incentive to buy stubs. Crickets.
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Making Prestige online-only really irks me as well. Chipper's reveal in 19 made me stop playing the game. I understand making it quicker for an online player to gain things that offline players can gain, but putting them out of reach for those offline players pushes them away. To those saying "it's free content, so I can't really complain", I'm glad someone bought the game for you, but I had to pay for mine, which means I'm paying for DD with my $60+ along with all the other content like Franchise and RTTS. Nothing is "free".
It seems like they're trying to push offline players to play online and this is the way they're trying to do it. However, what they don't realize is many offline players don't play online because they aren't as skilled and don't want to lose over and over trying to achieve a goal they'll never accomplish. I'm probably fairly average at the game and Chipper was an impossibility for me. Putting more content out of their reach puts them at an even larger disadvantage when they do try online modes. You aren't pushing those players into playing them more, you're pushing them away from your game.
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@jfenton8287 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
Making Prestige online-only really irks me as well. Chipper's reveal in 19 made me stop playing the game. I understand making it quicker for an online player to gain things that offline players can gain, but putting them out of reach for those offline players pushes them away. To those saying "it's free content, so I can't really complain", I'm glad someone bought the game for you, but I had to pay for mine, which means I'm paying for DD with my $60+ along with all the other content like Franchise and RTTS. Nothing is "free".
It seems like they're trying to push offline players to play online and this is the way they're trying to do it. However, what they don't realize is many offline players don't play online because they aren't as skilled and don't want to lose over and over trying to achieve a goal they'll never accomplish. I'm probably fairly average at the game and Chipper was an impossibility for me. Putting more content out of their reach puts them at an even larger disadvantage when they do try online modes. You aren't pushing those players into playing them more, you're pushing them away from your game.
Yep, chipper really irked me. They already made Kimbrel a unattainable reward, and then pooped on us with chipper. I’ll quit this year too if smoltz Maddux and glavine SS style card is the same.
As for he OP, I only really hate the locked players are non sellable or exchangeable.... I mean what am I gonna do a common card? Look at it?
Also the red diamonds don’t make a difference bc that grind will be pointless once they release a SS card for the same players. So who cares
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@Crimson_Monk said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@jfenton8287 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
Making Prestige online-only really irks me as well. Chipper's reveal in 19 made me stop playing the game. I understand making it quicker for an online player to gain things that offline players can gain, but putting them out of reach for those offline players pushes them away. To those saying "it's free content, so I can't really complain", I'm glad someone bought the game for you, but I had to pay for mine, which means I'm paying for DD with my $60+ along with all the other content like Franchise and RTTS. Nothing is "free".
It seems like they're trying to push offline players to play online and this is the way they're trying to do it. However, what they don't realize is many offline players don't play online because they aren't as skilled and don't want to lose over and over trying to achieve a goal they'll never accomplish. I'm probably fairly average at the game and Chipper was an impossibility for me. Putting more content out of their reach puts them at an even larger disadvantage when they do try online modes. You aren't pushing those players into playing them more, you're pushing them away from your game.
Yep, chipper really irked me. They already made Kimbrel a unattainable reward, and then pooped on us with chipper. I’ll quit this year too if smoltz Maddux and glavine SS style card is the same.
As for he OP, I only really hate the locked players are non sellable or exchangeable.... I mean what am I gonna do a common card? Look at it?
Also the red diamonds don’t make a difference bc that grind will be pointless once they release a SS card for the same players. So who cares
The way the card structure is set up I think very few players will get signature series cards, are there any in the XP path?
Also Kimbrel was never unattainable, not the case anymore mind you but at his lowest point I’m pretty sure he was just over 100k
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@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Crimson_Monk said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@jfenton8287 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
Making Prestige online-only really irks me as well. Chipper's reveal in 19 made me stop playing the game. I understand making it quicker for an online player to gain things that offline players can gain, but putting them out of reach for those offline players pushes them away. To those saying "it's free content, so I can't really complain", I'm glad someone bought the game for you, but I had to pay for mine, which means I'm paying for DD with my $60+ along with all the other content like Franchise and RTTS. Nothing is "free".
It seems like they're trying to push offline players to play online and this is the way they're trying to do it. However, what they don't realize is many offline players don't play online because they aren't as skilled and don't want to lose over and over trying to achieve a goal they'll never accomplish. I'm probably fairly average at the game and Chipper was an impossibility for me. Putting more content out of their reach puts them at an even larger disadvantage when they do try online modes. You aren't pushing those players into playing them more, you're pushing them away from your game.
Yep, chipper really irked me. They already made Kimbrel a unattainable reward, and then pooped on us with chipper. I’ll quit this year too if smoltz Maddux and glavine SS style card is the same.
As for he OP, I only really hate the locked players are non sellable or exchangeable.... I mean what am I gonna do a common card? Look at it?
Also the red diamonds don’t make a difference bc that grind will be pointless once they release a SS card for the same players. So who cares
The way the card structure is set up I think very few players will get signature series cards, are there any in the XP path?
Also Kimbrel was never unattainable, not the case anymore mind you but at his lowest point I’m pretty sure he was just over 100k
The Ryne Sandberg at silver 1 (etc) is a sig (basically the same stats as last year too). I think signs will be just as available as the other 99s, just that there will be far less of them since it appears they chose to make the 99s have a ton of different art this year.
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@jfenton8287 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
but putting them out of reach for those offline players pushes them away.
I'm a mostly-offliner and I was able to acquire every purchasable card in the game, including Chipper, Babe, Kimbrell, Gagne: the whole lot of them.
You CAN do it. The question is: how bad do you want to?
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If offline players want the extra +3 that badly, just play online? DD is geared to play online, you can use any legend you ever dreamed of outside of DD. I don’t see the issue here
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@SaveFarris said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@jfenton8287 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
but putting them out of reach for those offline players pushes them away.
I'm a mostly-offliner and I was able to acquire every purchasable card in the game, including Chipper, Babe, Kimbrell, Gagne: the whole lot of them.
You CAN do it. The question is: how bad do you want to?
How many hours a week did you play and how many dollars did you put into the game? Because again, the average player cannot get those cards you listed.
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@SaveFarris said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@jfenton8287 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
but putting them out of reach for those offline players pushes them away.
I'm a mostly-offliner and I was able to acquire every purchasable card in the game, including Chipper, Babe, Kimbrell, Gagne: the whole lot of them.
You CAN do it. The question is: how bad do you want to?
No, the question is, "What do you do with all of those great cards?" The only mode any fun to use them is conquest, and for that you definitely do not need those cards. It is a waste of time and/or money for offline players to bother with collecting DD cards. SDS needs to give offline players something more to do with their DD team.
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@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@SaveFarris said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@jfenton8287 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
but putting them out of reach for those offline players pushes them away.
I'm a mostly-offliner and I was able to acquire every purchasable card in the game, including Chipper, Babe, Kimbrell, Gagne: the whole lot of them.
You CAN do it. The question is: how bad do you want to?
No, the question is, "What do you do with all of those great cards?" The only mode any fun to use them is conquest, and for that you definitely do not need those cards. It is a waste of time and/or money for offline players to bother with collecting DD cards. SDS needs to give offline players something more to do with their DD team.
I mean... it's supposed to be an online mode, that's where their focus is..
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@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@SaveFarris said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@jfenton8287 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
but putting them out of reach for those offline players pushes them away.
I'm a mostly-offliner and I was able to acquire every purchasable card in the game, including Chipper, Babe, Kimbrell, Gagne: the whole lot of them.
You CAN do it. The question is: how bad do you want to?
No, the question is, "What do you do with all of those great cards?" The only mode any fun to use them is conquest, and for that you definitely do not need those cards. It is a waste of time and/or money for offline players to bother with collecting DD cards. SDS needs to give offline players something more to do with their DD team.
I mean... it's supposed to be an online mode, that's where their focus is..
Ok. So then offline players should not play DD. Is that your suggestion?
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@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@SaveFarris said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@jfenton8287 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
but putting them out of reach for those offline players pushes them away.
I'm a mostly-offliner and I was able to acquire every purchasable card in the game, including Chipper, Babe, Kimbrell, Gagne: the whole lot of them.
You CAN do it. The question is: how bad do you want to?
No, the question is, "What do you do with all of those great cards?" The only mode any fun to use them is conquest, and for that you definitely do not need those cards. It is a waste of time and/or money for offline players to bother with collecting DD cards. SDS needs to give offline players something more to do with their DD team.
I mean... it's supposed to be an online mode, that's where their focus is..
Ok. So then offline players should not play DD. Is that your suggestion?
If you think there's nothing to do for offline players then yes?
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@ImDFC said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
How many hours a week did you play
Couple hours a day. More on the weekends obviously.
and how many dollars did you put into the game?
Zero.
Because again, the average player cannot get those cards you listed.
Incorrect.
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@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@SaveFarris said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@jfenton8287 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
but putting them out of reach for those offline players pushes them away.
I'm a mostly-offliner and I was able to acquire every purchasable card in the game, including Chipper, Babe, Kimbrell, Gagne: the whole lot of them.
You CAN do it. The question is: how bad do you want to?
No, the question is, "What do you do with all of those great cards?" The only mode any fun to use them is conquest, and for that you definitely do not need those cards. It is a waste of time and/or money for offline players to bother with collecting DD cards. SDS needs to give offline players something more to do with their DD team.
I mean... it's supposed to be an online mode, that's where their focus is..
Ok. So then offline players should not play DD. Is that your suggestion?
If you think there's nothing to do for offline players then yes?
That is my suggestion too. Stop playing DD if you are an offline player until SDS gives offline players more to do with their cards.
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@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@SaveFarris said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@jfenton8287 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
but putting them out of reach for those offline players pushes them away.
I'm a mostly-offliner and I was able to acquire every purchasable card in the game, including Chipper, Babe, Kimbrell, Gagne: the whole lot of them.
You CAN do it. The question is: how bad do you want to?
No, the question is, "What do you do with all of those great cards?" The only mode any fun to use them is conquest, and for that you definitely do not need those cards. It is a waste of time and/or money for offline players to bother with collecting DD cards. SDS needs to give offline players something more to do with their DD team.
I mean... it's supposed to be an online mode, that's where their focus is..
Ok. So then offline players should not play DD. Is that your suggestion?
If you think there's nothing to do for offline players then yes?
That is my suggestion too. Stop playing DD if you are an offline player until SDS gives offline players more to do with their cards.
Or just play online like the mode is built for
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@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@SaveFarris said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@jfenton8287 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
but putting them out of reach for those offline players pushes them away.
I'm a mostly-offliner and I was able to acquire every purchasable card in the game, including Chipper, Babe, Kimbrell, Gagne: the whole lot of them.
You CAN do it. The question is: how bad do you want to?
No, the question is, "What do you do with all of those great cards?" The only mode any fun to use them is conquest, and for that you definitely do not need those cards. It is a waste of time and/or money for offline players to bother with collecting DD cards. SDS needs to give offline players something more to do with their DD team.
I mean... it's supposed to be an online mode, that's where their focus is..
Ok. So then offline players should not play DD. Is that your suggestion?
If you think there's nothing to do for offline players then yes?
That is my suggestion too. Stop playing DD if you are an offline player until SDS gives offline players more to do with their cards.
Or just play online like the mode is built for
The premise is offline players. Sure, you can change the premise to "just play online", but then you are not an offline only player and there is no discussion.
