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    @D_e_m_I_s_E said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    Been saying this for years. Also been chastised for it for years. Been getting worse but this year is really bad. I think it has more to do with the pandemic and amount of people on the internet with this year being worse. Game needs better matchmaking. I would rather have 5 minutes getting a good connection than instantly finding a game with a bad connection.

    I’ve read some of your posts about ping and they were all very intelligent and made sense.

    I feel bad for people who don’t play much, and try out ranked for the first time and end up getting a bad game or a few bad connection games in a row.

    I am a fairly competitive person and when you get those [censored] connections, and 93 is 110, it’s like you have to battle your already equally good opponent with a major handicap. I wonder if the opponent experices lag the same as you in a bad game or if it is just one sided.

    I have 400 MBs hard wired , fiber internet that moves at the speed of light, and I try to be home game to ensure that I’m hosting. But you still get those bad games no matter what. Comebacklogic being in England with a smaller player base makes me think a lot of the millisecond delays and glitches might be a distance thing. Like if I get someone close to me (I’m in upstate ny) it’s smoother, but if I have to match with someone in Canada or California I have a better chance and experiencing latency induced glitches.

    I’ve Also noticed when I speed test my PlayStation it maxes out around 70 down and 6 up, every other device in my house can pull 400/40. Not sure if that is part of the problem and I don’t know how accurate that PlayStation test is but no matter what I tinker with it stays at those rates on the internal test

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    Spot on post, a few weeks ago during a string of RS games, I had several games in a row where both of us couldn't score much and pitching dominated. Then, one game all of a sudden felt much better and we both scored 10+ runs cause there weren't latency issues. Its crazy how RS plays so much worse than events and it really doesn't make sense to me.

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    @MaxHarvest said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    @D_e_m_I_s_E said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    Been saying this for years. Also been chastised for it for years. Been getting worse but this year is really bad. I think it has more to do with the pandemic and amount of people on the internet with this year being worse. Game needs better matchmaking. I would rather have 5 minutes getting a good connection than instantly finding a game with a bad connection.

    I’ve read some of your posts about ping and they were all very intelligent and made sense.

    I feel bad for people who don’t play much, and try out ranked for the first time and end up getting a bad game or a few bad connection games in a row.

    I am a fairly competitive person and when you get those [censored] connections, and 93 is 110, it’s like you have to battle your already equally good opponent with a major handicap. I wonder if the opponent experices lag the same as you in a bad game or if it is just one sided.

    I have 400 MBs hard wired , fiber internet that moves at the speed of light, and I try to be home game to ensure that I’m hosting. But you still get those bad games no matter what. Comebacklogic being in England with a smaller player base makes me think a lot of the millisecond delays and glitches might be a distance thing. Like if I get someone close to me (I’m in upstate ny) it’s smoother, but if I have to match with someone in Canada or California I have a better chance and experiencing latency induced glitches.

    I’ve Also noticed when I speed test my PlayStation it maxes out around 70 down and 6 up, every other device in my house can pull 400/40. Not sure if that is part of the problem and I don’t know how accurate that PlayStation test is but no matter what I tinker with it stays at those rates on the internal test

    I can tell usually in the first inning whether I am going to win the game or not and it has nothing to do with the opponent. I have mentioned numerous tell tale signs that I look for.

    Haven't really looked into the playstation speed test too much. I have gig internet and am usually around 30 down/5 up on the ps. Heard it was capped but I have seen it around 80 up/80 down before but that is very rare.

    My connection stuff are just theories since I don't have access to the actual data. I just know there is a serious connection issue somewhere. Could be my connection for all I know. I would like some connection info like pubg and other games have that tell my ping, packet loss and other things. With softball and corporate challenge more than likely being back, I will not purchase next year. I wasn't going to purchase this year but the pandemic changed that.

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    @D_e_m_I_s_E said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    Been saying this for years. Also been chastised for it for years. Been getting worse but this year is really bad. I think it has more to do with the pandemic and amount of people on the internet with this year being worse. Game needs better matchmaking. I would rather have 5 minutes getting a good connection than instantly finding a game with a bad connection.

    I always agree with your state of how bad the game is and was getting tired of your connection comments. It all makes sense now...I thought it was just bad relay of input

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    FFS why do I bother? Third time in a week I get close to 800, then get into a match and can’t see a FB. Literally catching up to everything and scoring 8 runs a game the five before this.

    5pm rolls around and boom. Completely different game. People getting off work?

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    @rAtbAby407 said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    FFS why do I bother? Third time in a week I get close to 800, then get into a match and can’t see a FB. Literally catching up to everything and scoring 8 runs a game the five before this.

    5pm rolls around and boom. Completely different game. People getting off work?

    @SCBulldog40 said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    Spot on post, a few weeks ago during a string of RS games, I had several games in a row where both of us couldn't score much and pitching dominated. Then, one game all of a sudden felt much better and we both scored 10+ runs cause there weren't latency issues. Its crazy how RS plays so much worse than events and it really doesn't make sense to me.

    Like demise said you can tell from the first inning how the game is going to go. The only time I offer FQ are after an inning in a game riddled with these issues.

    Would it help this issue if the games were not hosted p2p? I have heard that mentioned as a possible issue, do other sports games not have that? user input is so vital down to milliseconds so even slight lag with hog pitch speeds and tiny pcis are the difference between a no doubt bomb and a weak pop up or grounder

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    @D_e_m_I_s_E said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    @MaxHarvest said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    @D_e_m_I_s_E said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    Been saying this for years. Also been chastised for it for years. Been getting worse but this year is really bad. I think it has more to do with the pandemic and amount of people on the internet with this year being worse. Game needs better matchmaking. I would rather have 5 minutes getting a good connection than instantly finding a game with a bad connection.

    I’ve read some of your posts about ping and they were all very intelligent and made sense.

    I feel bad for people who don’t play much, and try out ranked for the first time and end up getting a bad game or a few bad connection games in a row.

    I am a fairly competitive person and when you get those [censored] connections, and 93 is 110, it’s like you have to battle your already equally good opponent with a major handicap. I wonder if the opponent experices lag the same as you in a bad game or if it is just one sided.

    I have 400 MBs hard wired , fiber internet that moves at the speed of light, and I try to be home game to ensure that I’m hosting. But you still get those bad games no matter what. Comebacklogic being in England with a smaller player base makes me think a lot of the millisecond delays and glitches might be a distance thing. Like if I get someone close to me (I’m in upstate ny) it’s smoother, but if I have to match with someone in Canada or California I have a better chance and experiencing latency induced glitches.

    I’ve Also noticed when I speed test my PlayStation it maxes out around 70 down and 6 up, every other device in my house can pull 400/40. Not sure if that is part of the problem and I don’t know how accurate that PlayStation test is but no matter what I tinker with it stays at those rates on the internal test

    I can tell usually in the first inning whether I am going to win the game or not and it has nothing to do with the opponent. I have mentioned numerous tell tale signs that I look for.

    Haven't really looked into the playstation speed test too much. I have gig internet and am usually around 30 down/5 up on the ps. Heard it was capped but I have seen it around 80 up/80 down before but that is very rare.

    My connection stuff are just theories since I don't have access to the actual data. I just know there is a serious connection issue somewhere. Could be my connection for all I know. I would like some connection info like pubg and other games have that tell my ping, packet loss and other things. With softball and corporate challenge more than likely being back, I will not purchase next year. I wasn't going to purchase this year but the pandemic changed that.

    Gaming router. Something like Netduma would give you that info.

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    @ComebackLogic said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    @D_e_m_I_s_E said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    @MaxHarvest said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    @D_e_m_I_s_E said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    Been saying this for years. Also been chastised for it for years. Been getting worse but this year is really bad. I think it has more to do with the pandemic and amount of people on the internet with this year being worse. Game needs better matchmaking. I would rather have 5 minutes getting a good connection than instantly finding a game with a bad connection.

    I’ve read some of your posts about ping and they were all very intelligent and made sense.

    I feel bad for people who don’t play much, and try out ranked for the first time and end up getting a bad game or a few bad connection games in a row.

    I am a fairly competitive person and when you get those [censored] connections, and 93 is 110, it’s like you have to battle your already equally good opponent with a major handicap. I wonder if the opponent experices lag the same as you in a bad game or if it is just one sided.

    I have 400 MBs hard wired , fiber internet that moves at the speed of light, and I try to be home game to ensure that I’m hosting. But you still get those bad games no matter what. Comebacklogic being in England with a smaller player base makes me think a lot of the millisecond delays and glitches might be a distance thing. Like if I get someone close to me (I’m in upstate ny) it’s smoother, but if I have to match with someone in Canada or California I have a better chance and experiencing latency induced glitches.

    I’ve Also noticed when I speed test my PlayStation it maxes out around 70 down and 6 up, every other device in my house can pull 400/40. Not sure if that is part of the problem and I don’t know how accurate that PlayStation test is but no matter what I tinker with it stays at those rates on the internal test

    I can tell usually in the first inning whether I am going to win the game or not and it has nothing to do with the opponent. I have mentioned numerous tell tale signs that I look for.

    Haven't really looked into the playstation speed test too much. I have gig internet and am usually around 30 down/5 up on the ps. Heard it was capped but I have seen it around 80 up/80 down before but that is very rare.

    My connection stuff are just theories since I don't have access to the actual data. I just know there is a serious connection issue somewhere. Could be my connection for all I know. I would like some connection info like pubg and other games have that tell my ping, packet loss and other things. With softball and corporate challenge more than likely being back, I will not purchase next year. I wasn't going to purchase this year but the pandemic changed that.

    Gaming router. Something like Netduma would give you that info.

    If I thought a Netduma would help, I would probably buy one. One of the issues is the google fiber box doesn't have a bridge mode. I think to set up your own router with the fiber box, you need more advanced networking skills than I have.

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    I knew I would find Demise in this thread...

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    Do you play on a PS4 Pro? The Ps4 Pro provides users with video output options which, in my view, affect pitch speeds and user output. Basically, in my view, if you're not playing on the latest console, you're at a disadvantage.

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    @boomy_91 said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    Do you play on a PS4 Pro? The Ps4 Pro provides users with video output options which, in my view, affect pitch speeds and user output. Basically, in my view, if you're not playing on the latest console, you're at a disadvantage.

    It doesn't affect pitch speeds.

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    This is how I’ve felt about Oswalt’s FB all year. 95-96 always seems as quick if not quicker than Chapman’s 102.

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    @D_e_m_I_s_E said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    @ComebackLogic said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    @D_e_m_I_s_E said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    @MaxHarvest said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    @D_e_m_I_s_E said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    Been saying this for years. Also been chastised for it for years. Been getting worse but this year is really bad. I think it has more to do with the pandemic and amount of people on the internet with this year being worse. Game needs better matchmaking. I would rather have 5 minutes getting a good connection than instantly finding a game with a bad connection.

    I’ve read some of your posts about ping and they were all very intelligent and made sense.

    I feel bad for people who don’t play much, and try out ranked for the first time and end up getting a bad game or a few bad connection games in a row.

    I am a fairly competitive person and when you get those [censored] connections, and 93 is 110, it’s like you have to battle your already equally good opponent with a major handicap. I wonder if the opponent experices lag the same as you in a bad game or if it is just one sided.

    I have 400 MBs hard wired , fiber internet that moves at the speed of light, and I try to be home game to ensure that I’m hosting. But you still get those bad games no matter what. Comebacklogic being in England with a smaller player base makes me think a lot of the millisecond delays and glitches might be a distance thing. Like if I get someone close to me (I’m in upstate ny) it’s smoother, but if I have to match with someone in Canada or California I have a better chance and experiencing latency induced glitches.

    I’ve Also noticed when I speed test my PlayStation it maxes out around 70 down and 6 up, every other device in my house can pull 400/40. Not sure if that is part of the problem and I don’t know how accurate that PlayStation test is but no matter what I tinker with it stays at those rates on the internal test

    I can tell usually in the first inning whether I am going to win the game or not and it has nothing to do with the opponent. I have mentioned numerous tell tale signs that I look for.

    Haven't really looked into the playstation speed test too much. I have gig internet and am usually around 30 down/5 up on the ps. Heard it was capped but I have seen it around 80 up/80 down before but that is very rare.

    My connection stuff are just theories since I don't have access to the actual data. I just know there is a serious connection issue somewhere. Could be my connection for all I know. I would like some connection info like pubg and other games have that tell my ping, packet loss and other things. With softball and corporate challenge more than likely being back, I will not purchase next year. I wasn't going to purchase this year but the pandemic changed that.

    Gaming router. Something like Netduma would give you that info.

    If I thought a Netduma would help, I would probably buy one. One of the issues is the google fiber box doesn't have a bridge mode. I think to set up your own router with the fiber box, you need more advanced networking skills than I have.

    I’m a relatively old man now (39) and not the most techie, but if you have a computer at home it shouldn’t be too difficult to use out of the box. The advantage a Netduma gaming router would provide to you, in particular, is that it would give you exactly what you’ve been asking SDS for for years - Namely, the opportunity to have more information about your opponents geographic location and likely connection quality before the game gets underway.

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    @ComebackLogic said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    @D_e_m_I_s_E said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    @ComebackLogic said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    @D_e_m_I_s_E said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    @MaxHarvest said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    @D_e_m_I_s_E said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    Been saying this for years. Also been chastised for it for years. Been getting worse but this year is really bad. I think it has more to do with the pandemic and amount of people on the internet with this year being worse. Game needs better matchmaking. I would rather have 5 minutes getting a good connection than instantly finding a game with a bad connection.

    I’ve read some of your posts about ping and they were all very intelligent and made sense.

    I feel bad for people who don’t play much, and try out ranked for the first time and end up getting a bad game or a few bad connection games in a row.

    I am a fairly competitive person and when you get those [censored] connections, and 93 is 110, it’s like you have to battle your already equally good opponent with a major handicap. I wonder if the opponent experices lag the same as you in a bad game or if it is just one sided.

    I have 400 MBs hard wired , fiber internet that moves at the speed of light, and I try to be home game to ensure that I’m hosting. But you still get those bad games no matter what. Comebacklogic being in England with a smaller player base makes me think a lot of the millisecond delays and glitches might be a distance thing. Like if I get someone close to me (I’m in upstate ny) it’s smoother, but if I have to match with someone in Canada or California I have a better chance and experiencing latency induced glitches.

    I’ve Also noticed when I speed test my PlayStation it maxes out around 70 down and 6 up, every other device in my house can pull 400/40. Not sure if that is part of the problem and I don’t know how accurate that PlayStation test is but no matter what I tinker with it stays at those rates on the internal test

    I can tell usually in the first inning whether I am going to win the game or not and it has nothing to do with the opponent. I have mentioned numerous tell tale signs that I look for.

    Haven't really looked into the playstation speed test too much. I have gig internet and am usually around 30 down/5 up on the ps. Heard it was capped but I have seen it around 80 up/80 down before but that is very rare.

    My connection stuff are just theories since I don't have access to the actual data. I just know there is a serious connection issue somewhere. Could be my connection for all I know. I would like some connection info like pubg and other games have that tell my ping, packet loss and other things. With softball and corporate challenge more than likely being back, I will not purchase next year. I wasn't going to purchase this year but the pandemic changed that.

    Gaming router. Something like Netduma would give you that info.

    If I thought a Netduma would help, I would probably buy one. One of the issues is the google fiber box doesn't have a bridge mode. I think to set up your own router with the fiber box, you need more advanced networking skills than I have.

    I’m a relatively old man now (39) and not the most techie, but if you have a computer at home it shouldn’t be too difficult to use out of the box. The advantage a Netduma gaming router would provide to you, in particular, is that it would give you exactly what you’ve been asking SDS for for years - Namely, the opportunity to have more information about your opponents geographic location and likely connection quality before the game gets underway.

    Yea, pretty sure with that router you can filter by ping and location. I just think there is a lot more to setting it up with google fiber and their box. Not sure why these big companies have these garbage modem/router combos.

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    Game is in my opinion obviously determined from the start anyways. I get beat more by silver and gold level players with terrible records then i do by higher level players. Seems like the pitch speeds are lowered for your opponent at times to me. Just my opinion. Love the game and im by all means average at the game but the predictability of the game is beyond ridiculous

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    @D_e_m_I_s_E said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    @MaxHarvest said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    @D_e_m_I_s_E said in Latency, pitch speeds, and user input ...:

    Been saying this for years. Also been chastised for it for years. Been getting worse but this year is really bad. I think it has more to do with the pandemic and amount of people on the internet with this year being worse. Game needs better matchmaking. I would rather have 5 minutes getting a good connection than instantly finding a game with a bad connection.

    I’ve read some of your posts about ping and they were all very intelligent and made sense.

    I feel bad for people who don’t play much, and try out ranked for the first time and end up getting a bad game or a few bad connection games in a row.

    I am a fairly competitive person and when you get those [censored] connections, and 93 is 110, it’s like you have to battle your already equally good opponent with a major handicap. I wonder if the opponent experices lag the same as you in a bad game or if it is just one sided.

    I have 400 MBs hard wired , fiber internet that moves at the speed of light, and I try to be home game to ensure that I’m hosting. But you still get those bad games no matter what. Comebacklogic being in England with a smaller player base makes me think a lot of the millisecond delays and glitches might be a distance thing. Like if I get someone close to me (I’m in upstate ny) it’s smoother, but if I have to match with someone in Canada or California I have a better chance and experiencing latency induced glitches.

    I’ve Also noticed when I speed test my PlayStation it maxes out around 70 down and 6 up, every other device in my house can pull 400/40. Not sure if that is part of the problem and I don’t know how accurate that PlayStation test is but no matter what I tinker with it stays at those rates on the internal test

    I can tell usually in the first inning whether I am going to win the game or not and it has nothing to do with the opponent. I have mentioned numerous tell tale signs that I look for.

    Haven't really looked into the playstation speed test too much. I have gig internet and am usually around 30 down/5 up on the ps. Heard it was capped but I have seen it around 80 up/80 down before but that is very rare.

    My connection stuff are just theories since I don't have access to the actual data. I just know there is a serious connection issue somewhere. Could be my connection for all I know. I would like some connection info like pubg and other games have that tell my ping, packet loss and other things. With softball and corporate challenge more than likely being back, I will not purchase next year. I wasn't going to purchase this year but the pandemic changed that.

    The up down doesn’t matter as much as the ping rate (and WiFi if your not wired). And it’s not just on your end but the opponents as well.

    I’ve had same issues as stated here. One game no lag another game lag city. And like last night it seemed to be one sided. When I was pitching every pitch went to the plate in “slo mo” while my opponent was throwing 90mph fast balls down the middle and I was consistently “late” even on sell out FB swings.

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