The match-up system of MLB the show
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The TL;DR version of the thread is the question - How does the match-up system really work after the strength of a stream was, allegedly, removed as a factor?
Whenever I close in on WS there are some decisions to be made in terms of match-making:
You can either control the slider to left, and make sure that you match up with someone close to your own rating, or you can let it slide as far as you want, and hope that you match up with someone of a significantly lower rating.
From a mathematical perspective it would make sense to let the slider go far to the right as it should be far likelier that you match up vs. someone with a lesser rating (there are after all a lot more lower ranked players). Although I don't know for sure how selective people in the 500s-700s really are with their match-making. I know that many WS guys simply refuse to play on HoF if they can avoid it.
What I have noticed when looking for matches with streamers is that you might both be in the appropriate match-up-range without ever actually ending up matching with each other. So clearly there are some obstacles with matching up. It could be the distance between the players, the strength of each team, individual records etc.
With respect to the above, I essentially have two questions:
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Do we know what are the factors that prevent two players from matching up with each other?
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In your experience, are you likelier to match up with higher or lower ranked players if you let the slider go all the way to the right or does it seem to balance out?
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A buddy of mine and I tested a theory. While in a psn party we started search at the exact same time while he had a slightly higher rating. We found each other fairly quickly first attempt. He quit and we ran the same test with my rating now being slightly higher than his. We couldn't find each other no matter what we did and gave up after close to 40 minutes. Sometimes our bar would go more than half way across but for whatever reason the game wouldn't match us up. He lives in NYC and me in Toronto for what its worth
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@EvylShaun said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
A buddy of mine and I tested a theory. While in a psn party we started search at the exact same time while he had a slightly higher rating. We found each other fairly quickly first attempt. He quit and we ran the same test with my rating now being slightly higher than his. We couldn't find each other no matter what we did and gave up after close to 40 minutes. Sometimes our bar would go more than half way across but for whatever reason the game wouldn't match us up. He lives in NYC and me in Toronto for what its worth
I think the reason for this may be the fact that you can only match up with a specific player once every 24 hours. This is why you wouldn't be able to match with the same guy multiple times in a row, during the same day.
However, I've found that you may not be able to match up with a certain player even if you haven't matched up with him on the same day.
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@SefarR said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
@EvylShaun said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
A buddy of mine and I tested a theory. While in a psn party we started search at the exact same time while he had a slightly higher rating. We found each other fairly quickly first attempt. He quit and we ran the same test with my rating now being slightly higher than his. We couldn't find each other no matter what we did and gave up after close to 40 minutes. Sometimes our bar would go more than half way across but for whatever reason the game wouldn't match us up. He lives in NYC and me in Toronto for what its worth
I think the reason for this may be the fact that you can only match up with a specific player once every 24 hours. This is why you wouldn't be able to match with the same guy multiple times in a row, during the same day.
However, I've found that you may not be able to match up with a certain player even if you haven't matched up with him on the same day.
Is this a fact or an assumption? I thought it may have been the case where there was some kind of timer on matching with the same player, but hadn't looked into it. It would make sense to avoid things like win trading in events.
I'm new the DD. I've come from the NHL HUT world where EA doesn't give a [censored] about anything along as you pump money I to their god awful product.
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@EvylShaun said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
@SefarR said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
@EvylShaun said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
A buddy of mine and I tested a theory. While in a psn party we started search at the exact same time while he had a slightly higher rating. We found each other fairly quickly first attempt. He quit and we ran the same test with my rating now being slightly higher than his. We couldn't find each other no matter what we did and gave up after close to 40 minutes. Sometimes our bar would go more than half way across but for whatever reason the game wouldn't match us up. He lives in NYC and me in Toronto for what its worth
I think the reason for this may be the fact that you can only match up with a specific player once every 24 hours. This is why you wouldn't be able to match with the same guy multiple times in a row, during the same day.
However, I've found that you may not be able to match up with a certain player even if you haven't matched up with him on the same day.
Is this a fact or an assumption? I thought it may have been the case where there was some kind of timer on matching with the same player, but hadn't looked into it. It would make sense to avoid things like win trading in events.
I'm new the DD. I've come from the NHL HUT world where EA doesn't give a [censored] about anything along as you pump money I to their god awful product.
I'm pretty sure that this is a fact, I've heard it mentioned too many times. However, if someone knows better, feel free to correct that.
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Matching up in RS and events is totally different, In RS you usually get someone equal or lower, In events it is hit and miss or more balanced.
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It is a fact that you cannot match up with the same person more than once a day. It prevents local game boosting using two consoles on the same network when both teams have similar ratings.
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@SefarR said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
The TL;DR version of the thread is the question - How does the match-up system really work after the strength of a stream was, allegedly, removed as a factor?
Whenever I close in on WS there are some decisions to be made in terms of match-making:
You can either control the slider to left, and make sure that you match up with someone close to your own rating, or you can let it slide as far as you want, and hope that you match up with someone of a significantly lower rating.
From a mathematical perspective it would make sense to let the slider go far to the right as it should be far likelier that you match up vs. someone with a lesser rating (there are after all a lot more lower ranked players). Although I don't know for sure how selective people in the 500s-700s really are with their match-making. I know that many WS guys simply refuse to play on HoF if they can avoid it.
What I have noticed when looking for matches with streamers is that you might both be in the appropriate match-up-range without ever actually ending up matching with each other. So clearly there are some obstacles with matching up. It could be the distance between the players, the strength of each team, individual records etc.
With respect to the above, I essentially have two questions:
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Do we know what are the factors that prevent two players from matching up with each other?
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In your experience, are you likelier to match up with higher or lower ranked players if you let the slider go all the way to the right or does it seem to balance out?
The answer your looking for is "Churn Rate"
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@dbarmonstar said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
Matching up in RS and events is totally different, In RS you usually get someone equal or lower, In events it is hit and miss or more balanced.
You can also get higher in RS.
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@cvogsfashow said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
@dbarmonstar said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
Matching up in RS and events is totally different, In RS you usually get someone equal or lower, In events it is hit and miss or more balanced.
You can also get higher in RS.
It is really rare that in my experience to get higher in RS. Here is a question is your ranking different in RS as it is in Event, When a new event starts what is your ranking is it based on your RS ranking?
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@dbarmonstar said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
@cvogsfashow said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
@dbarmonstar said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
Matching up in RS and events is totally different, In RS you usually get someone equal or lower, In events it is hit and miss or more balanced.
You can also get higher in RS.
It is really rare that in my experience to get higher in RS. Here is a question is your ranking different in RS as it is in Event, When a new event starts what is your ranking is it based on your RS ranking?
Idk how events ratings actually start and all that but if you think about it. In RS if you are constantly playing guys of lower ratings, those guys are playing guys higher than them. That was my point that you do player higher rated guys as well.
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In events it's just goes by wins, it's matchmaking is the same as it would be if playing B.R. The more wins you have the higher your bar starts.
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@cvogsfashow said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
@dbarmonstar said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
@cvogsfashow said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
@dbarmonstar said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
Matching up in RS and events is totally different, In RS you usually get someone equal or lower, In events it is hit and miss or more balanced.
You can also get higher in RS.
It is really rare that in my experience to get higher in RS. Here is a question is your ranking different in RS as it is in Event, When a new event starts what is your ranking is it based on your RS ranking?
Idk how events ratings actually start and all that but if you think about it. In RS if you are constantly playing guys of lower ratings, those guys are playing guys higher than them. That was my point that you do player higher rated guys as we
I guess I should have clarified, In rank season in my experience you are playing guys closer to your rating then you do in events if that makes since. Yes I play higher rating players but usually within 150, if I am rated say at 500 the highest i will get is about 650. In events you can be at 500 and play someone over 700 or under 300.
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@dbarmonstar said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
@cvogsfashow said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
@dbarmonstar said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
@cvogsfashow said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
@dbarmonstar said in The match-up system of MLB the show:
Matching up in RS and events is totally different, In RS you usually get someone equal or lower, In events it is hit and miss or more balanced.
You can also get higher in RS.
It is really rare that in my experience to get higher in RS. Here is a question is your ranking different in RS as it is in Event, When a new event starts what is your ranking is it based on your RS ranking?
Idk how events ratings actually start and all that but if you think about it. In RS if you are constantly playing guys of lower ratings, those guys are playing guys higher than them. That was my point that you do player higher rated guys as we
I guess I should have clarified, In rank season in my experience you are playing guys closer to your rating then you do in events if that makes since. Yes I play higher rating players but usually within 150, if I am rated say at 500 the highest i will get is about 650. In events you can be at 500 and play someone over 700 or under 300.
Can you even tell your opponents rating in Events? It doens't go to an end game screen showing you what your is or anything...
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