Nate Pearson Outlier
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So because he's topping out at 96 and 94 on this one start, we should not care/ignore that he does throw 100 normally?
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Degrom has actually thrown 101 this year, yet tops out at 98-99 in this game...
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@eatyum said in Nate Pearson Outlier:
So because he's topping out at 96 and 94 on this one start, we should not care/ignore that he does throw 100 normally?
Well I think most of us have seen the Brusdar highlights, that guy is 100+ effortlessly. No issues there. But to give a guy an outlier fastball who’s base speed is 94 is a little crazy. Yes it’s one game, but if he is supposed to be in then 100s, you’d have medical staff out there every inning.
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@loshbomb said in Nate Pearson Outlier:
@eatyum said in Nate Pearson Outlier:
So because he's topping out at 96 and 94 on this one start, we should not care/ignore that he does throw 100 normally?
Well I think most of us have seen the Brusdar highlights, that guy is 100+ effortlessly. No issues there. But to give a guy an outlier fastball who’s base speed is 94 is a little crazy. Yes it’s one game, but if he is supposed to be in then 100s, you’d have medical staff out there every inning.
That's what I'm trying to convey though, his base speed is NOT 94. Sometimes pitchers dial it back some games, doesn't have to be a medical thing. Concluding from the one game you're watching that he shouldn't have outlier is downright silly.
His average fastball was 98.5 coming into the year and threw tons of fastballs over/at 98 against the Nats in his first start.
Also looking at the stat sheet, he literally threw a 99.2 MPH fastball to Camargo, and I'm sure if I kept looking, I'd find more
-Edit, Tyler Flowers struck out on on a 98.6 mph fastball-
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Nate Pearson was throwing 100 in spring training with ease. He is one person that deserves the outlier. Ever think maybe Toronto management told him to tune it down for better control? Kinda like what yankees did with joba chamberlain? He was throwing heat out of the BP than when they made him into a starter he was averaging 95.
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@loshbomb said in Nate Pearson Outlier:
I’m watching this guy pitch tonight and he’s topping out at 96, lots of 94 mph fastballs. Can we not do these fantasy prospect flamethrowers going forward?
Watch his game before this one.. was 99 100 most fastballs
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@loshbomb said in Nate Pearson Outlier:
I’m watching this guy pitch tonight and he’s topping out at 96, lots of 94 mph fastballs. Can we not do these fantasy prospect flamethrowers going forward?
Striking out two batters with 99.2 and 98.6 mph Fastballs tonight...
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@eatyum said in Nate Pearson Outlier:
So because he's topping out at 96 and 94 on this one start, we should not care/ignore that he does throw 100 normally?
The outlier quirk is flawed. You shouldn't be able to hit 100-102 every single time you throw the pitch. The guy would not have an arm left. It should be related to confidence or stamina.
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@DarthKDog09 said in Nate Pearson Outlier:
@eatyum said in Nate Pearson Outlier:
So because he's topping out at 96 and 94 on this one start, we should not care/ignore that he does throw 100 normally?
The outlier quirk is flawed. You shouldn't be able to hit 100-102 every single time you throw the pitch. The guy would not have an arm left. It should be related to confidence or stamina.
Absolutely agree with that.
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Maybe moving forward, outlier should be limited to RP/CP, and they come up with some other type of quirk for SPs?
Maybe something that could go along with pitching clutch and the workhorse quirk. Something like Verlander touching 98-99 in the 9th inning back when he was with Detroit (idk if he still brings it like that late in the game present day)
I see it from both sides, tho.
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Well Chapman hits 100-102 MPH pitch after pitch in real life so he's obviously the exception to the rule. I realize big difference between RP/CP and SP.
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@mastermut4life said in Nate Pearson Outlier:
Well Chapman hits 100-102 MPH pitch after pitch in real life so he's obviously the exception to the rule. I realize big difference between RP/CP and SP.
Severino routinely hit 100 same as Thor as a sp
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@DarthKDog09 said in Nate Pearson Outlier:
@eatyum said in Nate Pearson Outlier:
So because he's topping out at 96 and 94 on this one start, we should not care/ignore that he does throw 100 normally?
The outlier quirk is flawed. You shouldn't be able to hit 100-102 every single time you throw the pitch. The guy would not have an arm left. It should be related to confidence or stamina.
So, you think it should be, say.... an outlier lol?
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@DarthKDog09 said in Nate Pearson Outlier:
@eatyum said in Nate Pearson Outlier:
So because he's topping out at 96 and 94 on this one start, we should not care/ignore that he does throw 100 normally?
The outlier quirk is flawed. You shouldn't be able to hit 100-102 every single time you throw the pitch. The guy would not have an arm left. It should be related to confidence or stamina.
Agreed. If they're gonna do that with outlier, guys like Maddux need a perk where he 100% hits is spots everytime.
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He can hit 100 with ease when he wants. He's trying to be a pitcher, not a thrower. Same as Verlander when he was younger and unhittable, he's would throw 95-97 then ramp it up to 100 when needed.
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uhh when I owned Pearson he hit 102 in the first 4 innings easily....
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@maskedgrappler said in Nate Pearson Outlier:
He can hit 100 with ease when he wants. He's trying to be a pitcher, not a thrower. Same as Verlander when he was younger and unhittable, he's would throw 95-97 then ramp it up to 100 when needed.
Younger and non melting coca cola together with pine tar to up his spin rate 300 rpm*
Fixed
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@wingo18 said in Nate Pearson Outlier:
Maybe moving forward, outlier should be limited to RP/CP, and they come up with some other type of quirk for SPs?
Maybe something that could go along with pitching clutch and the workhorse quirk. Something like Verlander touching 98-99 in the 9th inning back when he was with Detroit (idk if he still brings it like that late in the game present day)
I see it from both sides, tho.
I like the SP idea. One that gives some pitchers the ability to get stronger as the game goes on.
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