Inflation of market
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@Kovz88 said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@Kovz88 said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@eatyum said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
My opinion is it’s disappointing that some people who are at 100 percent and most likely will get all of the stage 3 TAs still feel the need to have 500k stubs and inflate the market. Some may use just for exchanges and now the cost is higher than a few days ago.
It's obvious you've dug a line in the sand, you've made your up mind that it's a bunch of faceless people manipulating the market. If that is the mindset you want, by all means, but I think I've laid out a pretty good argument on what is really happening.
Again u r a Prestige 67 player while I am at Diamond 83. I am sure u r far superior to me as I have defeated open showdown ever. In my case I will prob need to use exchanges while u can have 40 TA points in 2 hours.
So because you aren't good at the game other people should have to take the longer route and just hand you cards for cheap so you can do it the easy way? Not how things work
No where did I say that but again I don’t see why a card like Robles has to double
Let me say it again the BUYERS cause the price to go up because people that want to do exchanges when the program drops go on and hit buy now which cause the price of the card to go up. Then the price slowly goes back down as leople put in sell orders. So therefore the price goes back down because of the SELLERS. Noone is gonna undercut the last sell order by a couple hundred on a silver just to be nice.
Prices are set by the seller not the buyer. The buyer will buy what’s available. Again if you are someone who will acquire TA through showdowns what do you gain by having 500k stubs? You will have 30 players right there 97-99.
First ,just because a seller lists a price doesn't mean he is setting that price,what the buyer is willing to pay sets the price.
be able to or not able to complete showdown has nothing to do with it, people's desire to complete the TA as quickly as possible is why the market inflates so much, it's a case of want not need.
As to the question of why, have to make stubs selling what people are buying,it is currently this, there are a bunch of FB/legends out that people want , me personally about 300k worth and all the good stuff is just starting, I expect by January I'll have aquired 3times the cost of LS collect in FB legends, just because there are 30 high level cards in stage 3 doesn't mean you don't need others,I will use as many cards as I can and have fun with all sorts of players, this is the means to that end. -
@samguenther1987 said in Inflation of market:
@Ikasnu said in Inflation of market:
I've been preaching this method all year long. Looking to cash in on some 300-400k tomorrow hopefully.
I wish i had listened to you earlier, i should do ok when the new TA's hit but had i followed your advice instead of fliping i would have been better off. Lesson learned.
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@Ikasnu said in Inflation of market:
I've been preaching this method all year long. Looking to cash in on some 300-400k tomorrow hopefully.
I get it and amazed at the patience you have. I won’t spend any time trying to put in tons of orders .
I actually do it this way to avoid putting in tons of orders. If I flipped all year I would need to do hundreds and hundreds of repricing for 1 stub and it’s quite annoying. This way you make less but you can quite easily just sell most of them at once or extremely fast without multiple posts.
Having another game helps kill the time or at least avoid wasting stubs when your bored.
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This thread really hurt my brain, in all honesty.
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Ray Charles could beat these veteran difficulty showdowns. just because someone could beat showdown every single time they play it doesn't mean that they don't have the right to buy cards and still do exchanges. Just because some of us can beat showdown every time doesn't mean we want to grind 40 hours of showdown just to unlock some cards when we have been stockpiling cheap golds and silvers and can do some exchanges in between to save some time because there are other modes to play besides just showdown versus the CPU which is extremely boring but it does serve a purpose. I'm sorry for the run-on sentence but this thread almost seems like a troll job. It's like the same conversation going in circles with the OP not opening his mind at all. It almost seems like he thinks the cards should just be unlocked for him without him having to beat showdown or buy cards off the market. I literally don't understand that mindset. Participation trophy type stuff.
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
My opinion is it’s disappointing that some people who are at 100 percent and most likely will get all of the stage 3 TAs through showdowns still feel the need to inflate the market. Some may use just for exchanges and now the cost is higher than a few days ago.
You do realize that what you say makes absolutely no sense at all and everyone is trying to explain that to you right? BUYERS are setting the market not sellers. People are buying large amounts of cards right now to finish the next TA.... when that happens they buy up the cheapest cards which leaves the next most expensive card for sale. After this is repeated thousands upon thousands of times, card prices NATURALLY go up. NOT because of what sellers are doing at all.
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@eatyum said in Inflation of market:
And what would you suggest to fix that?
With TA3 dropping, there is obviously more demand for golds in order for exchanges, and Econ 101 says more demand = higher prices. It's not some people manipulating the market to make a profit.
I’m doing it to make a profit. Seeings that I really don’t care about TA I’m taking advantage of Market right now.
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@eatyum said in Inflation of market:
And what would you suggest to fix that?
With TA3 dropping, there is obviously more demand for golds in order for exchanges, and Econ 101 says more demand = higher prices. It's not some people manipulating the market to make a profit.
As i said many won’t agree with me but if I had to guess many people who are of superior ability in game are many who have inflated the market to earn more stubs when the lesser players who would need to do exchanges more can’t because the cost is high.
Flawed logic, I suck at the game and I've got a lot riding on this TA 3. I can do showdown after a few tries. I'll never be above 600 player though. I've been stuck in the 500's for awhile. I'm not mad about it, I enjoy the game. Its just simple supply and demand. A lot of us knew that prices would go up when the next stage drops. We bought low and plan to sell hi.
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@hoboadam said in Inflation of market:
You were late to the party.
Being honest, I buy them all year. When POTM exchanges cause a rush, sell stacks of silver and bronze. Reinvest them right back.
Just plan ahead more next time.
And are u at 100 percent with all teams? If so is your purpose just to take stubs of the players not as good? I am just wondering. Not stating it’s true just wondering
Yes. My intent is to take stubs from the people that don't play the market properly.
Buying a gold 81 at 1025 is smart. I can exchange it out and the fool that sold it to me made less than if they quick sold it.
Free market is not where I do charity work. That's at school, church and other areas of my local community. Not in a virtual marketplace.
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Wow this thread is something. No one is forcing you to buy these cards. No one is taking anyone’s stubs. There are multiple ways to earn ta points. You can load up your squad with one team and grind innings against the cpu, you can do m2o. Also we’ve known about the different stages of team affinity since the game dropped. You could have easily pick up these cards over the last few weeks when prices were lower, so that’s on you.
As other posters have stated buyers dictate the market. Sellers can set prices how they choose but it’s up to the buyers to determine if that price is what they’re willing to pay. An item is only as valuable as what someone is willing to pay for it. If you think the prices are too high then you don’t have to buy. This is not market manipulation in any way. This is pretty much Econ 101
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What is even worse is OP admits to playing what is basically 4 games and complains about prices. If you play each of those games on All Star even odds are in your favor you get at least 1 silver. Like sorry that I can win my showdowns and get great pulls this year allowing me to flip cards for a profit at your expense. Should we make every card worth the same amount of stubs or would OP prefer everyone gets a free trout since they are clearly against capitalism
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I admit I invested in alot of silver players in order to do some of the exchanges for the cards I really wanted. The ones that didn’t, I was gonna sell off and at the very least, try to break even. So far, nothing looks interesting to me except maybe Brett so yeah I’m gonna profit a ton. I’m sitting on 800 78/79 cards, not to mention i have a few dozen other silver/gold cards.
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I was busy buying up 72s for 40 stubs each when they were so low. People had plenty of time to get the cards at low prices, and everyone knew this was coming.
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But they NERFed Showdowns.
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@shuker23 said in Inflation of market:
But they NERFed Showdowns.
I don’t waste my time knowing I will fail. I lost to 1st mini boss in 4th inning and haven’t gone back.
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@shuker23 said in Inflation of market:
But they NERFed Showdowns.
I don’t waste my time knowing I will fail. I lost to 1st mini boss in 4th inning and haven’t gone back.
Then I'm not quite sure what your point is. They made Showdowns really easy.
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@shuker23 said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@shuker23 said in Inflation of market:
But they NERFed Showdowns.
I don’t waste my time knowing I will fail. I lost to 1st mini boss in 4th inning and haven’t gone back.
Then I'm not quite sure what your point is. They made Showdowns really easy.
Not really easy for everyone and I’m sure some people agree with me.
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@hoboadam said in Inflation of market:
You were late to the party.
Being honest, I buy them all year. When POTM exchanges cause a rush, sell stacks of silver and bronze. Reinvest them right back.
Just plan ahead more next time.
And are u at 100 percent with all teams? If so is your purpose just to take stubs of the players not as good? I am just wondering. Not stating it’s true just wondering
Just a big LOL @taking stubs from the less fortunate.
