Inflation of market
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
In order for the cost to go up people are setting it at that cost. Seems they are manipulating the market to benefit them knowing others of weaker ability will need it. I cannot complete a showdown so it’s easier grinding or exchanges for me. More people will need so some are setting costs higher than earlier last week.
Let me give you an example. Because I don't think you get what I'm trying to say.
Let's assume there is 500 Austin Meadows pulled a day, but there is only 400 people who buy Meadows each day. Prices go down because there is more supply coming in then buyers
But now let's assume Austin Meadows is needed for a super important exchange, the first-rate, 500 Austin Meadows pulled a day stays the same, but suddenly you have 1200 people who are buying that card.
Moving forward with that example, Let's assume out of those 500 Meadows, 100 of them are listed at 1100, those obviously get bought up rather quickly because we have 1200 people trying to get him, and the next cheapest orders are 100 at 1250 stubs a piece. After that 100 is bought, the price automatically rose, not because people are setting new prices, but because the cheaper stuff is gone.
It's a little long, but I hope you get the jest of what I'm saying.
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@Ikasnu said in Inflation of market:
I've been preaching this method all year long. Looking to cash in on some 300-400k tomorrow hopefully.
I get it and amazed at the patience you have. I won’t spend any time trying to put in tons of orders .
Thanks, I've literally invested nearly every stub I've earned since May into it.
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You can’t be mad at anyone that stocks up on gold and silvers. We’ve all seen and know that exchanges for TA drive those prices up. What drives the prices up isn’t the people sitting on the gold and silvers. It’s the buyers inflating the market. More people want these cards. Regardless of who poses these cards the price will be driven up. In anticipation of this a lot of market savvy players stock up weeks ahead of time
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@eatyum said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
In order for the cost to go up people are setting it at that cost. Seems they are manipulating the market to benefit them knowing others of weaker ability will need it. I cannot complete a showdown so it’s easier grinding or exchanges for me. More people will need so some are setting costs higher than earlier last week.
Let me give you an example. Because I don't think you get what I'm trying to say.
Let's assume there is 500 Austin Meadows pulled a day, but there is only 400 people who buy Meadows each day. Prices go down because there is more supply coming in then buyers
But now let's assume Austin Meadows is needed for a super important exchange, the first-rate, 500 Austin Meadows pulled a day stays the same, but suddenly you have 1200 people who are buying that card.
Moving forward with that example, Let's assume out of those 500 Meadows, 100 of them are listed at 1100, those obviously get bought up rather quickly because we have 1200 people trying to get him, and the next cheapest orders are 100 at 1250 stubs a piece. After that 100 is bought, the price automatically rose, not because people are setting new prices, but because the cheaper stuff is gone.
It's a little long, but I hope you get the jest of what I'm saying.
But someone set the price at 1250 yes cheap ones were bought First but someone out in a sell order at 1250.
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@Ikasnu said in Inflation of market:
I've been preaching this method all year long. Looking to cash in on some 300-400k tomorrow hopefully.
I wish i had listened to you earlier, i should do ok when the new TA's hit but had i followed your advice instead of fliping i would have been better off. Lesson learned.
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@eatyum said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
In order for the cost to go up people are setting it at that cost. Seems they are manipulating the market to benefit them knowing others of weaker ability will need it. I cannot complete a showdown so it’s easier grinding or exchanges for me. More people will need so some are setting costs higher than earlier last week.
Let me give you an example. Because I don't think you get what I'm trying to say.
Let's assume there is 500 Austin Meadows pulled a day, but there is only 400 people who buy Meadows each day. Prices go down because there is more supply coming in then buyers
But now let's assume Austin Meadows is needed for a super important exchange, the first-rate, 500 Austin Meadows pulled a day stays the same, but suddenly you have 1200 people who are buying that card.
Moving forward with that example, Let's assume out of those 500 Meadows, 100 of them are listed at 1100, those obviously get bought up rather quickly because we have 1200 people trying to get him, and the next cheapest orders are 100 at 1250 stubs a piece. After that 100 is bought, the price automatically rose, not because people are setting new prices, but because the cheaper stuff is gone.
It's a little long, but I hope you get the jest of what I'm saying.
But someone set the price at 1250 yes cheap ones were bought First but someone out in a sell order at 1250.
Yes, but is that them manipulating the price, or is that them selling at what buyers will pay?
If demand rises, prices will rise. Why would I take less if I can sell for more? That's not manipulation
If I can get 1250 for Austin Meadows because the buyers dictate that they will pay that much, why would I sell it for 1100?
What I'm trying to say here, is in the grand scheme of things, the buyers set the market.
As I seller, I could list Austin Meadows for 10,000 stubs, but that doesn't mean he will sell, he obviously won't. Because no one would pay that much. Buyers set the market in most cases.
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My opinion is it’s disappointing that some people who are at 100 percent and most likely will get all of the stage 3 TAs through showdowns still feel the need to inflate the market. Some may use just for exchanges and now the cost is higher than a few days ago.
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
My opinion is it’s disappointing that some people who are at 100 percent and most likely will get all of the stage 3 TAs still feel the need to have 500k stubs and inflate the market. Some may use just for exchanges and now the cost is higher than a few days ago.
It's obvious you've dug a line in the sand, you've made your up mind that it's a bunch of faceless people manipulating the market. If that is the mindset you want, by all means, but I think I've laid out a pretty good argument on what is really happening.
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
My opinion is it’s disappointing that some people who are at 100 percent and most likely will get all of the stage 3 TAs still feel the need to have 500k stubs and inflate the market. Some may use just for exchanges and now the cost is higher than a few days ago.
You dont seem to be getting the point someone else is laying out. Its not the people with the cards inflating the market its the people flooding the market and hitting buy now which then causes the lowest buy now price to skyrocket and then it slowly starts filtering back down as people put in sell orders. A lot of people do it to complete collections.
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@eatyum said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
My opinion is it’s disappointing that some people who are at 100 percent and most likely will get all of the stage 3 TAs still feel the need to have 500k stubs and inflate the market. Some may use just for exchanges and now the cost is higher than a few days ago.
It's obvious you've dug a line in the sand, you've made your up mind that it's a bunch of faceless people manipulating the market. If that is the mindset you want, by all means, but I think I've laid out a pretty good argument on what is really happening.
Again u r a Prestige 67 player while I am at Diamond 83. I am sure u r far superior to me as I have defeated open showdown ever. In my case I will prob need to use exchanges while u can have 40 TA points in 2 hours.
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@eatyum said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
My opinion is it’s disappointing that some people who are at 100 percent and most likely will get all of the stage 3 TAs still feel the need to have 500k stubs and inflate the market. Some may use just for exchanges and now the cost is higher than a few days ago.
It's obvious you've dug a line in the sand, you've made your up mind that it's a bunch of faceless people manipulating the market. If that is the mindset you want, by all means, but I think I've laid out a pretty good argument on what is really happening.
Again u r a Prestige 67 player while I am at Diamond 83. I am sure u r far superior to me as I have defeated open showdown ever. In my case I will prob need to use exchanges while u can have 40 TA points in 2 hours.
I don't see how your or my XP level is relevant to the discussion though. Ok, so you'll have to use exchanges, how does that invalidate anything I've said so far?
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@eatyum said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@eatyum said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
My opinion is it’s disappointing that some people who are at 100 percent and most likely will get all of the stage 3 TAs still feel the need to have 500k stubs and inflate the market. Some may use just for exchanges and now the cost is higher than a few days ago.
It's obvious you've dug a line in the sand, you've made your up mind that it's a bunch of faceless people manipulating the market. If that is the mindset you want, by all means, but I think I've laid out a pretty good argument on what is really happening.
Again u r a Prestige 67 player while I am at Diamond 83. I am sure u r far superior to me as I have defeated open showdown ever. In my case I will prob need to use exchanges while u can have 40 TA points in 2 hours.
I don't see how your or my XP level is relevant to the discussion though. Ok, so you'll have to use exchanges, how does that invalidate anything I've said so far?
My belief is many who are buying these cards are doing so with intention to sell at high prices and earn stubs and unsure why as they will earn all TA cards anyway without needing exchanges or the silvers.
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@eatyum said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@eatyum said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
My opinion is it’s disappointing that some people who are at 100 percent and most likely will get all of the stage 3 TAs still feel the need to have 500k stubs and inflate the market. Some may use just for exchanges and now the cost is higher than a few days ago.
It's obvious you've dug a line in the sand, you've made your up mind that it's a bunch of faceless people manipulating the market. If that is the mindset you want, by all means, but I think I've laid out a pretty good argument on what is really happening.
Again u r a Prestige 67 player while I am at Diamond 83. I am sure u r far superior to me as I have defeated open showdown ever. In my case I will prob need to use exchanges while u can have 40 TA points in 2 hours.
I don't see how your or my XP level is relevant to the discussion though. Ok, so you'll have to use exchanges, how does that invalidate anything I've said so far?
My belief is many who are buying these cards are doing so with intention to sell at high prices and earn stubs and unsure why.
Which I said, if you want to draw your line in the sand and believe that, go ahead, but as I said before, I laid out a very detailed argument on what is actually happening, if you don't want to believe that, that is your right.
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@eatyum said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
My opinion is it’s disappointing that some people who are at 100 percent and most likely will get all of the stage 3 TAs still feel the need to have 500k stubs and inflate the market. Some may use just for exchanges and now the cost is higher than a few days ago.
It's obvious you've dug a line in the sand, you've made your up mind that it's a bunch of faceless people manipulating the market. If that is the mindset you want, by all means, but I think I've laid out a pretty good argument on what is really happening.
Again u r a Prestige 67 player while I am at Diamond 83. I am sure u r far superior to me as I have defeated open showdown ever. In my case I will prob need to use exchanges while u can have 40 TA points in 2 hours.
So because you aren't good at the game other people should have to take the longer route and just hand you cards for cheap so you can do it the easy way? Not how things work
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@Kovz88 said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@eatyum said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
My opinion is it’s disappointing that some people who are at 100 percent and most likely will get all of the stage 3 TAs still feel the need to have 500k stubs and inflate the market. Some may use just for exchanges and now the cost is higher than a few days ago.
It's obvious you've dug a line in the sand, you've made your up mind that it's a bunch of faceless people manipulating the market. If that is the mindset you want, by all means, but I think I've laid out a pretty good argument on what is really happening.
Again u r a Prestige 67 player while I am at Diamond 83. I am sure u r far superior to me as I have defeated open showdown ever. In my case I will prob need to use exchanges while u can have 40 TA points in 2 hours.
So because you aren't good at the game other people should have to take the longer route and just hand you cards for cheap so you can do it the easy way? Not how things work
No where did I say that but again I don’t see why a card like Robles has to double
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
My opinion is it’s disappointing that some people who are at 100 percent and most likely will get all of the stage 3 TAs through showdowns still feel the need to inflate the market. Some may use just for exchanges and now the cost is higher than a few days ago.
The more people trying to capitalize on TA 3, the less the market will rise. If more people are selling when TA 3 drops, the prices won't climb as high. However, if no one is selling when TA 3 drops, and everyone is buying, the prices would be much higher.
People stockpiling with the intention to sell will actually help players in your situation.
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@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
My opinion is it’s disappointing that some people who are at 100 percent and most likely will get all of the stage 3 TAs through showdowns still feel the need to inflate the market. Some may use just for exchanges and now the cost is higher than a few days ago.
The more people trying to capitalize on TA 3, the less the market will rise. If more people are selling when TA 3 drops, the prices won't climb as high. However, if no one is selling when TA 3 drops, and everyone is buying, the prices would be much higher.
People stockpiling with the intention to sell will actually help players in your situation.
Sure hope so I have 4 teams at 120 TA points and one I don’t even like the player announced thus far. A very good player can be done with 3 showdowns in 3 hours and have any player they want.
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@Kovz88 said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@eatyum said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
My opinion is it’s disappointing that some people who are at 100 percent and most likely will get all of the stage 3 TAs still feel the need to have 500k stubs and inflate the market. Some may use just for exchanges and now the cost is higher than a few days ago.
It's obvious you've dug a line in the sand, you've made your up mind that it's a bunch of faceless people manipulating the market. If that is the mindset you want, by all means, but I think I've laid out a pretty good argument on what is really happening.
Again u r a Prestige 67 player while I am at Diamond 83. I am sure u r far superior to me as I have defeated open showdown ever. In my case I will prob need to use exchanges while u can have 40 TA points in 2 hours.
So because you aren't good at the game other people should have to take the longer route and just hand you cards for cheap so you can do it the easy way? Not how things work
No where did I say that but again I don’t see why a card like Robles has to double
Let me say it again the BUYERS cause the price to go up because people that want to do exchanges when the program drops go on and hit buy now which cause the price of the card to go up. Then the price slowly goes back down as leople put in sell orders. So therefore the price goes back down because of the SELLERS. Noone is gonna undercut the last sell order by a couple hundred on a silver just to be nice.
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@Kovz88 said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@Kovz88 said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
@eatyum said in Inflation of market:
@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
My opinion is it’s disappointing that some people who are at 100 percent and most likely will get all of the stage 3 TAs still feel the need to have 500k stubs and inflate the market. Some may use just for exchanges and now the cost is higher than a few days ago.
It's obvious you've dug a line in the sand, you've made your up mind that it's a bunch of faceless people manipulating the market. If that is the mindset you want, by all means, but I think I've laid out a pretty good argument on what is really happening.
Again u r a Prestige 67 player while I am at Diamond 83. I am sure u r far superior to me as I have defeated open showdown ever. In my case I will prob need to use exchanges while u can have 40 TA points in 2 hours.
So because you aren't good at the game other people should have to take the longer route and just hand you cards for cheap so you can do it the easy way? Not how things work
No where did I say that but again I don’t see why a card like Robles has to double
Let me say it again the BUYERS cause the price to go up because people that want to do exchanges when the program drops go on and hit buy now which cause the price of the card to go up. Then the price slowly goes back down as leople put in sell orders. So therefore the price goes back down because of the SELLERS. Noone is gonna undercut the last sell order by a couple hundred on a silver just to be nice.
Prices are set by the seller not the buyer. The buyer will buy what’s available. Again if you are someone who will acquire TA through showdowns what do you gain by having 500k stubs? You will have 30 players right there 97-99.
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@nymets1987 said in Inflation of market:
My opinion is it’s disappointing that some people who are at 100 percent and most likely will get all of the stage 3 TAs through showdowns still feel the need to inflate the market. Some may use just for exchanges and now the cost is higher than a few days ago.
I started a spreadsheet a couple weeks ago so I could balance my bronzes + for TA and split my stubs made in the game between stub’s and cards for TA3. My goal was to get at least 50,000 exchange points for every team. That would get me 6 cards, 1 for every division right off the bat. So 1/5 of my TA3 progress is exchange the other 4/5 is showdown. That’s still a lot of showdown’s
