What is a breaking pitch?
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Most commonly breaking balls are sliders and curve balls.
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@PAinPA said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@samguenther1987 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@InigoMontoya_75 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@Ch-76-1908 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
Is this real?
I've never played baseball, so just wanted to see if there's any pitches I missed that are classified as a breaking pitch. Sorry for asking.
Breaking pitches are pitches that should always go away from the batter so that when reach for it it's either a miss or a soft ground ball, so yes breaking pitches include IE Sliders, changeups, curves. (Not always the case in MLB the show 20 were your pitches tend to get sucked out over the middle of the plate)
changeups aren't breaking pitches.
Good point I screwed up there. Sorry
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@PAinPA said in What is a breaking pitch?:
Fastballs: 4seam, 2seam, cutter,sinker, running, splitter,and forkball
Breaking: slider,slurve, curve ball,sweeping curve, 12-6 curve, and screwball
Offspeed: any of the changeups
This, was just about to add that the screwball counts as a breaking ball.
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@samguenther1987 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@PAinPA said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@samguenther1987 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@InigoMontoya_75 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@Ch-76-1908 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
Is this real?
I've never played baseball, so just wanted to see if there's any pitches I missed that are classified as a breaking pitch. Sorry for asking.
Breaking pitches are pitches that should always go away from the batter so that when reach for it it's either a miss or a soft ground ball, so yes breaking pitches include IE Sliders, changeups, curves. (Not always the case in MLB the show 20 were your pitches tend to get sucked out over the middle of the plate)
changeups aren't breaking pitches.
Good point I screwed up there. Sorry
No worries. the type looked meaner than intended.
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@samguenther1987 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@InigoMontoya_75 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@Ch-76-1908 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
Is this real?
I've never played baseball, so just wanted to see if there's any pitches I missed that are classified as a breaking pitch. Sorry for asking.
Breaking pitches are pitches that should always go away from the batter so that when reach for it it's either a miss or a soft ground ball, so yes breaking pitches include IE Sliders, curves. (Not always the case in MLB the show 20 were your pitches tend to get sucked out over the middle of the plate)
Breaking pitches don't have to break AWAY from a batter. Righty vs righty they break away. Reverse that and they break in on you.
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I believe all breaking balls are considered “offspeed” pitches, but not all offspeed pitches are breaking balls
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Fastballs: 4 seam, 2 seam, cutter, sinker, running, splitter.
Breaking balls: curveball, sweeping curve, 12-6 curve, slider, slurve, screwball.
Offspeed (NOT BREAKING): changeup, circle change, vulcan change, forkball.Breaking balls essentially move slower than a fastball and move horizontally as opposed to offspeed moving mostly vertically.
Edit: the 12-6 curve moves vertically, but because the break is significant and has a different rotation than, say, a change up, it is a breaking ball. It's the exception to the rule.
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Actually pitchers with really good changeups have a slight break to them.
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@Ch-76-1908 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@samguenther1987 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@InigoMontoya_75 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@Ch-76-1908 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
Is this real?
I've never played baseball, so just wanted to see if there's any pitches I missed that are classified as a breaking pitch. Sorry for asking.
Breaking pitches are pitches that should always go away from the batter so that when reach for it it's either a miss or a soft ground ball, so yes breaking pitches include IE Sliders, curves. (Not always the case in MLB the show 20 were your pitches tend to get sucked out over the middle of the plate)
Breaking pitches don't have to break AWAY from a batter. Righty vs righty they break away. Reverse that and they break in on you.
This is true, again very good point.
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@dhack71 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
Actually pitchers with really good changeups have a slight break to them.
Obviously. So do sinkers and cutters but they still aren’t breaking pitches. Forkballs and splitters are also considered fastballs. ( don’t ask me, I didn’t make the rules lol)
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Breaking balls are considered breaking balls because you "Break" Your wrist when you throw them Causing the ball to spin on it's Y axis as well as it's X axis.
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@Crimson_Monk said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@dhack71 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
Actually pitchers with really good changeups have a slight break to them.
Obviously. So do sinkers and cutters but they still aren’t breaking pitches. Forkballs and splitters are also considered fastballs. ( don’t ask me, I didn’t make the rules lol)
Splitter is a short form of split finger fastball, forkball is a fastball cause it's the same grip as a splitter but a splitterthe ball only touches the fingers, the forkball the ball also rests against the palm, forkball came first,splitter is an evolution of it
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A lot of interesting observations in here from such a simple question. I love baseball.
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@PAinPA said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@Crimson_Monk said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@dhack71 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
Actually pitchers with really good changeups have a slight break to them.
Obviously. So do sinkers and cutters but they still aren’t breaking pitches. Forkballs and splitters are also considered fastballs. ( don’t ask me, I didn’t make the rules lol)
Splitter is a short form of split finger fastball, forkball is a fastball cause it's the same grip as a splitter but a splitterthe ball only touches the fingers, the forkball the ball also rests against the palm, forkball came first,splitter is an evolution of it
Interesting. I didn't know that. I never learned a forkball grip. I guess since it moves significantly slower than the fastball I figured it would be classified as offspeed. But a circle change rests on the palm too, and rolls off the last three fingers. At least my grip did.
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@Jholla31 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@PAinPA said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@Crimson_Monk said in What is a breaking pitch?:
@dhack71 said in What is a breaking pitch?:
Actually pitchers with really good changeups have a slight break to them.
Obviously. So do sinkers and cutters but they still aren’t breaking pitches. Forkballs and splitters are also considered fastballs. ( don’t ask me, I didn’t make the rules lol)
Splitter is a short form of split finger fastball, forkball is a fastball cause it's the same grip as a splitter but a splitterthe ball only touches the fingers, the forkball the ball also rests against the palm, forkball came first,splitter is an evolution of it
Interesting. I didn't know that. I never learned a forkball grip. I guess since it moves significantly slower than the fastball I figured it would be classified as offspeed. But a circle change rests on the palm too, and rolls off the last three fingers. At least my grip did.
Yeah the big difference is that you pronate your wrist on a change up and a forkball is thrown like a fastball with the grip doing all the work. A forkball is pretty much jamming the ball between your index and middle finger like a very exaggerated splitter.
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@PAinPA said in What is a breaking pitch?:
Fastballs: 4seam, 2seam, cutter,sinker, running, splitter,and forkball
Breaking: slider,slurve, curve ball,sweeping curve, 12-6 curve, and screwball
Offspeed: any of the changeups
I've always classified anything that isn't a fastball as an offspeed pitch, which includes breaking balls
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