Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke
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@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
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@BlackMKO said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@BlackMKO said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@BlackMKO said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@ThaSultanOfSwag said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
Why dashboard? Why couldnt you just quit?
Because I felt like it....and I don't cry about it when it happens to me.
So a 20 pitch sample size was not only enough to decide to sell the card, but also to be a [censored] about it as well?
Yeah, some of us are able to tell if a pitcher is going to be good or not sooner than others.
I guess so, just like some people end up taking their ball home after 20 pitches
All he did was sell a pitcher back. Lol are you bretts kid or soemthing? Lmao what are you offended for?
Read the thread leading up to that point
Yeaaa im seeing i dont want to defend this guy as i read lol
Then I apologize for the strawman comment, cool?
I dont get my feelings hurt. You said what said. Lol its a forum comment. Dont sweat.
You don't have to defend me.
But the wockret dude has never touched an RS game and ONLY plays CPU on ROOKIE level....and he wants to talk trash about me dashboarding a particular game. I find that hilarious because if I never touched an RS game only played CPU, I would never dashboard a single game either.
Wow, was going to leave you alone today. I said what I said, I never questioned your skill set (I even admitted that I would suck at PvP games), I was questioning your moral fiber.
Continue to be salty, again, if you are trying to get a rise from me, try something other than my skill set, as I don’t really care about how I am perceived there
ZZZZZzzzzzzzz. I'm done.
Then the quality of this thread just went up
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@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@BlackMKO said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@BlackMKO said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@BlackMKO said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@ThaSultanOfSwag said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
Why dashboard? Why couldnt you just quit?
Because I felt like it....and I don't cry about it when it happens to me.
So a 20 pitch sample size was not only enough to decide to sell the card, but also to be a [censored] about it as well?
Yeah, some of us are able to tell if a pitcher is going to be good or not sooner than others.
I guess so, just like some people end up taking their ball home after 20 pitches
All he did was sell a pitcher back. Lol are you bretts kid or soemthing? Lmao what are you offended for?
Read the thread leading up to that point
Yeaaa im seeing i dont want to defend this guy as i read lol
Then I apologize for the strawman comment, cool?
I dont get my feelings hurt. You said what said. Lol its a forum comment. Dont sweat.
You don't have to defend me.
But the wockret dude has never touched an RS game and ONLY plays CPU on ROOKIE level....and he wants to talk trash about me dashboarding a particular game. I find that hilarious because if I never touched an RS game only played CPU, I would never dashboard a single game either.
Wow, was going to leave you alone today. I said what I said, I never questioned your skill set (I even admitted that I would suck at PvP games), I was questioning your moral fiber.
Continue to be salty, again, if you are trying to get a rise from me, try something other than my skill set, as I don’t really care about how I am perceived there
ZZZZZzzzzzzzz. I'm done.
Then the quality of this thread just went up
He is going to continue to stalk you, that is what 16 year old trolls like him do. He literally said I dashboarded people because he thinks everyone who quits does so by dashboarding
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10 innings, no runs and about 12-14 strikeouts in ranked so far for me. I have been looking forward to this card.
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@DrewshBag420 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@BlackMKO said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@BlackMKO said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@ThaSultanOfSwag said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
Why dashboard? Why couldnt you just quit?
Because I felt like it....and I don't cry about it when it happens to me.
So a 20 pitch sample size was not only enough to decide to sell the card, but also to be a [censored] about it as well?
Yeah, some of us are able to tell if a pitcher is going to be good or not sooner than others.
I guess so, just like some people end up taking their ball home after 20 pitches
All he did was sell a pitcher back. Lol are you bretts kid or soemthing? Lmao what are you offended for?
Read the thread leading up to that point
Yeaaa im seeing i dont want to defend this guy as i read lol
He is the resident troll of the forum
To be fair, there are a handful trolls. Not sure we can label any of them as the 'Resident troll' lol
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@DrewshBag420 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@BlackMKO said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@BlackMKO said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@BlackMKO said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@wockret1914 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@ThaSultanOfSwag said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
Why dashboard? Why couldnt you just quit?
Because I felt like it....and I don't cry about it when it happens to me.
So a 20 pitch sample size was not only enough to decide to sell the card, but also to be a [censored] about it as well?
Yeah, some of us are able to tell if a pitcher is going to be good or not sooner than others.
I guess so, just like some people end up taking their ball home after 20 pitches
All he did was sell a pitcher back. Lol are you bretts kid or soemthing? Lmao what are you offended for?
Read the thread leading up to that point
Yeaaa im seeing i dont want to defend this guy as i read lol
Then I apologize for the strawman comment, cool?
I dont get my feelings hurt. You said what said. Lol its a forum comment. Dont sweat.
You don't have to defend me.
But the wockret dude has never touched an RS game and ONLY plays CPU on ROOKIE level....and he wants to talk trash about me dashboarding a particular game. I find that hilarious because if I never touched an RS game only played CPU, I would never dashboard a single game either.
Wow, was going to leave you alone today. I said what I said, I never questioned your skill set (I even admitted that I would suck at PvP games), I was questioning your moral fiber.
Continue to be salty, again, if you are trying to get a rise from me, try something other than my skill set, as I don’t really care about how I am perceived there
ZZZZZzzzzzzzz. I'm done.
Then the quality of this thread just went up
He is going to continue to stalk you, that is what 16 year old trolls like him do. He literally said I dashboarded people because he thinks everyone who quits does so by dashboarding
If he does it won’t be anytime soon, apparently he is forum banned
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@MaxHarvest said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@louieepthree said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
I went 8 Innings with him with 12 Ks on my 1st start. 700+ RS game.. if that matters. Only gave up 3 runs..
Any feedback on pitches , what did u get k’s with etc
I was able to get Ks with all his pitches.. mixed it up.
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I'm currently on a small 6 game winning streak in RS (4 of 6 games have been dashboarded on me). I decided to give Saberhagen a second chance for some reason.
In one of those 6 games, he went 2.0 IP 0 R and got the win because opponent dashboarded. His next outing, he went 3 IP 4 ER 3 SO, not so good because I'm down 4-0 in the third inning. So I pulled him. In the 6th inning I hit a grand slam to tie it, but my opponent dashboarded before my HR landed, so I didn't get stats which is no big deal, but at least I got the win, and didn't have to grind it out to take the lead or potentially go into extra innings.
I currently have a 734 rating in RS and know I won't do well with Sabe against good hitters, I just don't have the confidence with him. If you're doing well with him, then that's good. I think he's just one of those players where some do well, but for whatever reason, others will not do so well with him, myself being one of them.
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@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
I'm currently on a small 6 game winning streak in RS (4 of 6 games have been dashboarded on me). I decided to give Saberhagen a second chance for some reason.
In one of those 6 games, he went 2.0 IP 0 R and got the win because opponent dashboarded. His next outing, he went 3 IP 4 ER 3 SO, not so good because I'm down 4-0 in the third inning. So I pulled him. In the 6th inning I hit a grand slam to tie it, but my opponent dashboarded before my HR landed, so I didn't get stats which is no big deal, but at least I got the win, and didn't have to grind it out to take the lead or potentially go into extra innings.
I currently have a 734 rating in RS and know I won't do well with Sabe against good hitters, I just don't have the confidence with him. If you're doing well with him, then that's good. I think he's just one of those players where some do well, but for whatever reason, others will not do so well with him, myself being one of them.
He’s likely better on hof in the 7-800’s, all star that slow movement and huge pci is a deadly combo for a guy w 3 off speed and a weak FB. Ive been using hamels and had good results
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Glad I read through this thread so I know I can completely disregard the OPs opinion. All-star level player, 20 pitch sample size lol. Wow.
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I played against him on HOF last night and hit him around fairly well. But I’m sure he does well if u know how to change speeds effectively. Sinkers spammers won’t be good with him
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I jus got dominated by him on HOF. It’s was hard to pick up his pitches but the guy missed spots I missed so many sliders that he hung and high change ups... on the other hand I gave up 7 all in the 2nd. And not even 1 hit after smh I just had a terrible game
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@genopolanco said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
Glad I read through this thread so I know I can completely disregard the OPs opinion. All-star level player, 20 pitch sample size lol. Wow.
By your response, you obviously haven't read anything in between, or at minimum the last response I wrote.
But that's ok.
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My first start with him. In the 700s
7 IP, 13 K, 0 ER, 3 H
My opponent was not a great hitter but a good pitcher. Similar to me...
Either way, Bret was fun. Amazing pin point control
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
My first start with him. In the 700s
7 IP, 13 K, 0 ER, 3 H
My opponent was not a great hitter but a good pitcher. Similar to me...
Either way, Bret was fun. Amazing pin point control
Yes, he is amazing against less than stellar hitters.
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@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
My first start with him. In the 700s
7 IP, 13 K, 0 ER, 3 H
My opponent was not a great hitter but a good pitcher. Similar to me...
Either way, Bret was fun. Amazing pin point control
Yes, he is amazing against less than stellar hitters.
Are you in the 700's?
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
My first start with him. In the 700s
7 IP, 13 K, 0 ER, 3 H
My opponent was not a great hitter but a good pitcher. Similar to me...
Either way, Bret was fun. Amazing pin point control
Yes, he is amazing against less than stellar hitters.
Are you in the 700's?
Yes, currently 734. (You can look up any players' ratings in the 'Standings/Stats & History' tab)
This will be my last response in this thread/post.
I think his stuff will dominate any hitters that are less than stellar. You may even have success with him against decent or good hitters, and that's great. All I am saying is THAT I feel I will not do well with him against good hitters and feel I will have a much better chance with other starters available than him, that's all.
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@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
@genopolanco said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
Glad I read through this thread so I know I can completely disregard the OPs opinion. All-star level player, 20 pitch sample size lol. Wow.
By your response, you obviously haven't read anything in between, or at minimum the last response I wrote.
But that's ok.
No I did. You play on all-star. Any pitcher can be lit up on all-star.
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@onnagood1 said in Bret Saberhagen CY YOUNG Absolute Joke:
He's a 97 diamond, but I personally think he's no different than 83 gold version. The speed differential between his fastball and offspeed pitches is hardly noticeable. If your opponent is able to sit on pitches, you'll be dead in the water because that's all you really have to resort to because of an ineffective fastball.
You'll figure this out in the 1st inning, which I didn't make it past the 2nd because of a HR off me because of a forced pitch down the middle. I wasn't willing to deal with this scenario for 7 more innings, so unfortunately I decided to dashboard, sold him back to the market and moved on.
This was my opinion about him based on my experience. If you use him, hopefully your experience will be different.
Sounds more like you need to learn how to pitch.
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I watched McGunsky struggle with him. Some pitches went exactly where he was targeting, others missed completely and towards middle of the plate.
Not suggesting this is any type of feedback because we all know you need to get a feel for how different cards play/function before truly forming an opinion. And, let's face it. What makes players like Gunsky is not their pitching as much as it is their ability to crush the ball. Half the time they probably win inspite of their pitching.
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