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  • therealcboy_18_PSNT Offline
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    The bunting is a fasion of baseaball and should not be fixed as you can adjust your defense to stop this, but the holding of R2 so the opponent hangs his pitches thats some bull [censored]

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    Generally, I have found that the players that cheese the bunting and stealing tend to be weaker hitters and pitchers.

    The whole approach is based on provoking a reaction out of you.

    There are a few I’ve played, however, who seem to be actually able to hit, and I reckon these are probably just hyper aggressive teenagers.

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    @halfbutt said in Why do good players cheese:

    Generally, I have found that the players that cheese the bunting and stealing tend to be weaker hitters and pitchers.

    The whole approach is based on provoking a reaction out of you.

    There are a few I’ve played, however, who seem to be actually able to hit, and I reckon these are probably just hyper aggressive teenagers.

    Agreed but bunting is a part of baseball and having a overloaded shift or a defense way back means you should adjust your defense to stop the aiding of runners

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    I agree with you on the cheese you laid out....with the exception of bunting. If you have a good bunter at bat and the opponent is not respecting his ability by not playing bunt defense then you are a fool to not lay one down.

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    Because this new generation of gamers are tight jean wearing, tik-tok dancing, Mahomes haircut little p*ssies. That pretty much sums it up for you.

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    I played a dude yesterday with a CAP with 99 speed that scored 2 of his 3 runs off a single, stealing 2nd, stealing 3rd and then suicide squeeze

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    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    I played a dude yesterday with a CAP with 99 speed that scored 2 of his 3 runs off a single, stealing 2nd, stealing 3rd and then suicide squeeze

    That's not really cheese and is on you for letting that happen.

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    @dogslax41 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    I played a dude yesterday with a CAP with 99 speed that scored 2 of his 3 runs off a single, stealing 2nd, stealing 3rd and then suicide squeeze

    That's not really cheese and is on you for letting that happen.

    Two out suicide squeezes with 2 strikes isn't cheese? Those were the only times it worked. He did it 5 or 6 times throughout.

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    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @dogslax41 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    I played a dude yesterday with a CAP with 99 speed that scored 2 of his 3 runs off a single, stealing 2nd, stealing 3rd and then suicide squeeze

    That's not really cheese and is on you for letting that happen.

    Two out suicide squeezes with 2 strikes isn't cheese? Those were the only times it worked. He did it 5 or 6 times throughout.

    If he did it 6 times then why didn’t you play bunt defense? lol my god.

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    @Yankee_Nation said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @dogslax41 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    I played a dude yesterday with a CAP with 99 speed that scored 2 of his 3 runs off a single, stealing 2nd, stealing 3rd and then suicide squeeze

    That's not really cheese and is on you for letting that happen.

    Two out suicide squeezes with 2 strikes isn't cheese? Those were the only times it worked. He did it 5 or 6 times throughout.

    If he did it 6 times then why didn’t you play bunt defense? lol my god.

    I pitched out and he was dead to rights. I obviously shouldn't have allowed it to happen multiple times. I'm not the best player, but it is what it is.

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    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @dogslax41 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    I played a dude yesterday with a CAP with 99 speed that scored 2 of his 3 runs off a single, stealing 2nd, stealing 3rd and then suicide squeeze

    That's not really cheese and is on you for letting that happen.

    Two out suicide squeezes with 2 strikes isn't cheese? Those were the only times it worked. He did it 5 or 6 times throughout.

    Bruh, 2 out isn’t a suicide squeeze. Just throw the go out at first.

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    I only “bunt dance” or hold r2 if they do something cheesy or cheap. It’s basically signaling, you did something scummy. And it’s only for one at bat or pitch. ( like having a CAP pitcher with Darren o day motion lolol. ) I haven’t ran in to too many bunt cheesers, but I have ran into pause every 2 second guys. If you pause to take a leak or look at pitches on pitching change so be it, but not every other pitch.

    Putting starters in as relievers is not cheesing. Is it crappy? Sure but it’s not different than using the best gun in the game all the time in a FPS. It could be a little like using odd job in goldeneye tho lolol

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    @Crimson_Monk said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @dogslax41 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    I played a dude yesterday with a CAP with 99 speed that scored 2 of his 3 runs off a single, stealing 2nd, stealing 3rd and then suicide squeeze

    That's not really cheese and is on you for letting that happen.

    Two out suicide squeezes with 2 strikes isn't cheese? Those were the only times it worked. He did it 5 or 6 times throughout.

    Bruh, 2 out isn’t a suicide squeeze. Just throw the go out at first.

    by suicide squeeze I mean stealing home prior to bunting. Obviously had my fielders made the play it would not have worked. But one was a bunt hit and the other was an error by my 2nd baseman.

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    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @Crimson_Monk said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @dogslax41 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    I played a dude yesterday with a CAP with 99 speed that scored 2 of his 3 runs off a single, stealing 2nd, stealing 3rd and then suicide squeeze

    That's not really cheese and is on you for letting that happen.

    Two out suicide squeezes with 2 strikes isn't cheese? Those were the only times it worked. He did it 5 or 6 times throughout.

    Bruh, 2 out isn’t a suicide squeeze. Just throw the go out at first.

    by suicide squeeze I mean stealing home prior to bunting. Obviously had my fielders made the play it would not have worked. But one was a bunt hit and the other was an error by my 2nd baseman.

    The game does have an issue with bunt defense towards second base. It’s animation / logic concern.

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    @Crimson_Monk said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @Crimson_Monk said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @dogslax41 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    I played a dude yesterday with a CAP with 99 speed that scored 2 of his 3 runs off a single, stealing 2nd, stealing 3rd and then suicide squeeze

    That's not really cheese and is on you for letting that happen.

    Two out suicide squeezes with 2 strikes isn't cheese? Those were the only times it worked. He did it 5 or 6 times throughout.

    Bruh, 2 out isn’t a suicide squeeze. Just throw the go out at first.

    by suicide squeeze I mean stealing home prior to bunting. Obviously had my fielders made the play it would not have worked. But one was a bunt hit and the other was an error by my 2nd baseman.

    The game does have an issue with bunt defense towards second base. It’s animation / logic concern.

    Maybe cheese wasn't the right term. But its really annoying to give up 4 hits an entire game and have the opponent constantly attempt to bunt and score almost all of their runs through bunting.

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    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @Crimson_Monk said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @dogslax41 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    I played a dude yesterday with a CAP with 99 speed that scored 2 of his 3 runs off a single, stealing 2nd, stealing 3rd and then suicide squeeze

    That's not really cheese and is on you for letting that happen.

    Two out suicide squeezes with 2 strikes isn't cheese? Those were the only times it worked. He did it 5 or 6 times throughout.

    Bruh, 2 out isn’t a suicide squeeze. Just throw the go out at first.

    by suicide squeeze I mean stealing home prior to bunting. Obviously had my fielders made the play it would not have worked. But one was a bunt hit and the other was an error by my 2nd baseman.

    For future reference if you know or think he's likely to bunt pitch him high and inside or just high if you are concerned about hitting him. If he's bunting at your second baseman make sure to shift the second baseman (by himself) in don't play bunt defense.

    And any time a 99 speed guy is on slide step. If he steals frequently fastball outside you don't have to pitchout.

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    @dogslax41 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @Crimson_Monk said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @dogslax41 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    I played a dude yesterday with a CAP with 99 speed that scored 2 of his 3 runs off a single, stealing 2nd, stealing 3rd and then suicide squeeze

    That's not really cheese and is on you for letting that happen.

    Two out suicide squeezes with 2 strikes isn't cheese? Those were the only times it worked. He did it 5 or 6 times throughout.

    Bruh, 2 out isn’t a suicide squeeze. Just throw the go out at first.

    by suicide squeeze I mean stealing home prior to bunting. Obviously had my fielders made the play it would not have worked. But one was a bunt hit and the other was an error by my 2nd baseman.

    For future reference if you know or think he's likely to bunt pitch him high and inside or just high if you are concerned about hitting him. If he's bunting at your second baseman make sure to shift the second baseman (by himself) in don't play bunt defense.

    And any time a 99 speed guy is on slide step. If he steals frequently fastball outside you don't have to pitchout.

    Thanks for the advice, and there are definitely things I will change the next time I see that. I only just started playing online, so I'm somewhat new to this sort of thing.

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    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @dogslax41 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @Crimson_Monk said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @dogslax41 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    I played a dude yesterday with a CAP with 99 speed that scored 2 of his 3 runs off a single, stealing 2nd, stealing 3rd and then suicide squeeze

    That's not really cheese and is on you for letting that happen.

    Two out suicide squeezes with 2 strikes isn't cheese? Those were the only times it worked. He did it 5 or 6 times throughout.

    Bruh, 2 out isn’t a suicide squeeze. Just throw the go out at first.

    by suicide squeeze I mean stealing home prior to bunting. Obviously had my fielders made the play it would not have worked. But one was a bunt hit and the other was an error by my 2nd baseman.

    For future reference if you know or think he's likely to bunt pitch him high and inside or just high if you are concerned about hitting him. If he's bunting at your second baseman make sure to shift the second baseman (by himself) in don't play bunt defense.

    And any time a 99 speed guy is on slide step. If he steals frequently fastball outside you don't have to pitchout.

    Thanks for the advice, and there are definitely things I will change the next time I see that. I only just started playing online, so I'm somewhat new to this sort of thing.

    It happens unfortunately because not everyone is interested in a fun game. For some it's win at all costs and you just need to know how to counter it. It's annoying but when you know it's coming they are just giving away free quick outs.

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    @Yankee_Nation said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @dogslax41 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    I played a dude yesterday with a CAP with 99 speed that scored 2 of his 3 runs off a single, stealing 2nd, stealing 3rd and then suicide squeeze

    That's not really cheese and is on you for letting that happen.

    Two out suicide squeezes with 2 strikes isn't cheese? Those were the only times it worked. He did it 5 or 6 times throughout.

    If he did it 6 times then why didn’t you play bunt defense? lol my god.

    You do realize that bunt defense is very flawed in this game right? You can play your defense as close as you can and not get an out

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    @theman925 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @Yankee_Nation said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @dogslax41 said in Why do good players cheese:

    @luskc23 said in Why do good players cheese:

    I played a dude yesterday with a CAP with 99 speed that scored 2 of his 3 runs off a single, stealing 2nd, stealing 3rd and then suicide squeeze

    That's not really cheese and is on you for letting that happen.

    Two out suicide squeezes with 2 strikes isn't cheese? Those were the only times it worked. He did it 5 or 6 times throughout.

    If he did it 6 times then why didn’t you play bunt defense? lol my god.

    You do realize that bunt defense is very flawed in this game right? You can play your defense as close as you can and not get an out

    I see people say this on here but it has not been my experience personally. If someone comes up with Juan Pierre or someone similar and tries to bunt first at bat then I immediately pause and go through their lineup and put bunt defense on all players that are dangerous bunters. After that it’s rare that a player bunting reached base. I’d say 9 out of 10 are outs.

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