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They’re focusing on the wrong thing. Hitting was fine the way it was. The problem was that too many pitches seemed to float over the heart of the plate regardless of pitcher attributes and user input. Hence the reason so many balls are ending up in the stands.

Edit: the only problem with the hitting pre patch was that sometimes balls that were hit with good/ok contact would leave the yard when your pci was hardly on it. Or sometimes you would get good/ok contact feedback when your feedback showed you were practically right on the ball.

Let me be clear I’m not a great player. I’m average, maybe above average at best. I don’t go 12-0 and I make WS but that’s about it, I’m not great.

I only looked at the era, HR’s allowed, and walks allowed. Despite me playing 167 less games in 20 than 19, I have given up 161 more walks, 229 more home runs and my era went from a 3.85 in 19’ to a 5.35 in 20’.

I think these numbers help support the statement that User input doesn’t matter as much as it should, either the human pitcher consistency slider has been reduced or human pitcher control Slider has been reduced, or both. to me it’s clear that pitching has lost a lot of its skill gap.

Hopefully in 21 pitching will get an overhaul. Curious to see if any of you guys have compared your stats.

Pitcher attributes and user input don’t seem to matter, if your pitch placement isn’t perfect then the ball just ends up nowhere close to where it should be.

I use analog pitching so we’ll reference that, if you don’t put that ball perfectly in that circle forget about it. The ball will end up not even being close to where you want it. Hence why there are so many balls being put into the stands.

What is the point of control or bb/9 stat if every pitch you throw ends up being a floater. Even if you do get perfect release it’ll still end up either missing the zone (if it’s close to the corner) or it’ll end up catching way too much of the plate. Hey I’d get it if it was in late innings and your pitcher is losing stamina but this happens right out of the gate even with the games best pitchers. Pitching feels nonexistent, it’s a total slugfest right now. It honestly reminds me of 18’ and that’s not a good thing.

@HoffsDrawlar said in Timing window feels...off:

Feels the same way for me, it felt so great the first few days and the patch ruined it. I threw two no hitters today also as it seemed like my opponents felt the same way. They just could not hit anything hard. 20 innings in a row without giving up a hit, garbage.

Hitting was fine the way it was all they needed to do was fix the pitching control. I can’t tell you how many balls I’ve had perfect release on with guys with great pitchers miss the black or just end up floating down the middle of the plate.

Ok so I don’t buy packs like at all. I’ve bought 2 packs all year long and that was only because it was a ducks on the pond pack. So I don’t pull a crazy amount of these packs, but I’ve collected a fair amount of these packs through just grinding out team affinities, programs, etc and I have not pulled a single diamond in any of these BIAH packs. Even when I’ve got the BIAH bundle I still haven’t pulled a diamond. I’ve pulled a few diamonds in standard packs and even got two diamond pulls as a game reward but never in a BIAH pack. I just don’t get how I haven’t at this point when they have 1:15 odds and I’ve ripped maybe between 30-50 of these packs.

Anyone else’s luck this bad?

Timing window feels off, I just can’t explain it man, it feels really weird right now.

I have no clue what I need to do to get a win. I went from being a World Series player in 19 to not being able to make it further than DS this year. I’m struggling just to make it past wild card. All star difficulty is a joke, it doesn’t matter how good my pitching staff is how well I locate pitches, everything ends up in the seats. Currently on a 6 game losing streak. Despite me outhitting my opponents in almost every game I’m still continuing to lose. I really don’t know what to do. Playing on all star is more stressful than it is fun. I’m losing to guys with records hardly above .500. My lowest pitchers era may be a 5.00. Every game has been something stupid like 8+ runs for both teams.

I’m playing on HOF difficulty. Last week before the update I was hitting .306 on the season and rated 895. Now I’m down to 790 and hitting like 270 something on the season. What gives?

I am getting under the ball quite a bit, but for as many balls that I’m getting just under I’m hitting just as many balls that are hit almost perfectly for good/good lazy flyball outs and good/ok (even though It looks like I’m dead center on the ball in the feedback) it feels like I’m hitting with a wet noodle. The ball just doesn’t feel like it’s jumping off of the bat when I make solid contact. I’m not trying to complain I just want to know if you guys have seen your average significantly drop off too. Did I miss something? Was there some change in the latest patch? Idk what’s going on but it’s really starting to frustrate me.

What’s the consensus on them? I personally find them to be too fast. I’m not a great player by any stretch but in past titles I’ve made World Series and from 15-19 had a consistent batting average from .284-.287 And saw a small decline to .270 in 20. But this year my batting average is below .250. And despite me being rated 838 this ranked Season I’m batting the Mendoza line. Most of the games I play on HOF are extremely low scoring. I don’t understand how fastballs on legend offline are slower then HOF online. What’s everyone’s thoughts? Should the pitch speeds be adjusted?

Like wedge last year where there was just one dot for the center pci. I personally find 3 dots as the center pci to be too distracting. Especially with power guys who have the top dot as their biggest pci dot. I find that I tend to just get right under the ball with the top dot resulting in pop ups and fly outs.

For the most part I really like how you can customize your pci but I hope for next year they give you an option if you want one dot as a center pci or three dots as center pci.

Getting really tired of getting good/ok feedback on balls I’m all over with my pci. This happened a handful of times before patch 1.04 but it’s a lot more frequent since the patch.

@joshjays44 said in Pitching on all star vs HOF:

That's cause you're playing online...way too many casual/noobs there.......the fact you don't realize they will swing for everything and aren't capable of working the count should be a clue for you. Tomorrow will be lesson two my noob apprentice....think of what I just said and use that for your next game or two.

Lol wut

Lmao it just doesn’t end. Another loss after a combined 11 homeruns between the both of us. Lost by a score of 10-8. Pitching is flat out useless you might as well throw out a pitching machine on the mound.

I feel like we don’t see a whole lot of these. Now before I get flamed by some of you guys who just want to hate on this game and focus on the negativity, let me be clear. By no means am I defending some of the poor gameplay issues that have been talked about every day on this form. The point of this post is to focus on the positivity of this game.

With that being said I can’t tell you how happy I am that this game is not a game that is hampered by a pay wall and micro transactions. I’ve just been watching trailers for NBA 2k and Madden and they are filled with a ton of backlash for micro transactions and cards being hidden behind a pay wall. And I am so glad that SDS has stayed true to their community and makes a ton of top tier players affordable. In 18 we got a game that was plagued with extreme mind numbing grinding and immortals locked behind a pay wall where you would have to cough up a significant amount of stubs to get guys to even complete. And after hearing the backlash from the community they went back to their roots which I am extremely happy about. There’s really no point of this post other than to say thank you for not becoming one of those companies.

@bskcoop2281 said in Pitching RNG:

Then why are the same people always at the top of the leaderboard?

Because they can mash lol. Have you looked at their era’s though? All of them are over at least 4.00 there’s even top players with an era over 6.00. Guys that have historically been pretty good pitchers are getting their era run up by this bad pitching input. I’ve always been a better pitcher than a hitter, but I’m hitting like 70 points higher than what I normally hit. But my era which is normally between like a 2.85 - 4.00 is at well over a six. And I have really strong starters for this stage of the game. So clearly there’s an issue with the pitching.

@rayallen121212 said in Timing window feels...off:

I was very early on literally every single pitch in a ranked seasons game rn. Game is actually unplayable currently. Literally every single one

Feels like pitch speed are super slow, I’m usually in front of everything so then I’ll tell myself to wait back a little longer then I end up getting late/very late timing. And it feels like when I do time it well I end up hitting into an out. I’m still getting hits, but a lot of them are singles and gappers meanwhile my opponent will get will match my hit total yet 8 of his 12 hits were homeruns and all 11 of mine were base knocks and occasionally a double lol

you know I always thought it was silly when people said that there was rng, or the game has a comeback formula or something, but the way this game plays this year, it’s hard to defend. My last game I had twice as many hard hit balls put in play (11) to my opponents (5), yet only 6 of my hard hit balls actually became hits while he went a perfect 5-5. You would think the person who is constantly making more solid contact would get rewarded more but that just wasn’t the case.

Chipper as a bench bat?! I’ll take a bronze defender with good contact and pop who can hit from both sides of the plate any day of the week.

@SchnauzerFace said in New Legend:

@big_red_gaming1 said in New Legend:

It’s Larry Walker , I believe there was a hidden clue in there referring to him as a 99. He was the cover athlete on all star baseball 99 on game boy .

Wow. I hope you don’t pull a muscle from that enormous stretch.

This aged well lol.

@jacksonvance35 said in Where did the community stats go?:

@redsman09_psn said in Where did the community stats go?:

Last year on the website SDS had posted community statistics that showed what the batting averages of different contact resulted in with batting averages, and also showed what the average “batting average” among players was on each difficulty. Where did that go? I’m really curious to see what the batting average for the community on higher difficulty looks like this year. I really hope it makes a comeback.

I’d wager it’s pretty bad

If I remember last year HOF batting average was around like .274, I’d be willing to bet it’s around .220 this year.