They’re focusing on the wrong thing. Hitting was fine the way it was. The problem was that too many pitches seemed to float over the heart of the plate regardless of pitcher attributes and user input. Hence the reason so many balls are ending up in the stands.

Edit: the only problem with the hitting pre patch was that sometimes balls that were hit with good/ok contact would leave the yard when your pci was hardly on it. Or sometimes you would get good/ok contact feedback when your feedback showed you were practically right on the ball.

Let me be clear I’m not a great player. I’m average, maybe above average at best. I don’t go 12-0 and I make WS but that’s about it, I’m not great.

I only looked at the era, HR’s allowed, and walks allowed. Despite me playing 167 less games in 20 than 19, I have given up 161 more walks, 229 more home runs and my era went from a 3.85 in 19’ to a 5.35 in 20’.

I think these numbers help support the statement that User input doesn’t matter as much as it should, either the human pitcher consistency slider has been reduced or human pitcher control Slider has been reduced, or both. to me it’s clear that pitching has lost a lot of its skill gap.

Hopefully in 21 pitching will get an overhaul. Curious to see if any of you guys have compared your stats.

Pitcher attributes and user input don’t seem to matter, if your pitch placement isn’t perfect then the ball just ends up nowhere close to where it should be.

I use analog pitching so we’ll reference that, if you don’t put that ball perfectly in that circle forget about it. The ball will end up not even being close to where you want it. Hence why there are so many balls being put into the stands.

What is the point of control or bb/9 stat if every pitch you throw ends up being a floater. Even if you do get perfect release it’ll still end up either missing the zone (if it’s close to the corner) or it’ll end up catching way too much of the plate. Hey I’d get it if it was in late innings and your pitcher is losing stamina but this happens right out of the gate even with the games best pitchers. Pitching feels nonexistent, it’s a total slugfest right now. It honestly reminds me of 18’ and that’s not a good thing.

@HoffsDrawlar said in Timing window feels...off:

Feels the same way for me, it felt so great the first few days and the patch ruined it. I threw two no hitters today also as it seemed like my opponents felt the same way. They just could not hit anything hard. 20 innings in a row without giving up a hit, garbage.

Hitting was fine the way it was all they needed to do was fix the pitching control. I can’t tell you how many balls I’ve had perfect release on with guys with great pitchers miss the black or just end up floating down the middle of the plate.

Ok so I don’t buy packs like at all. I’ve bought 2 packs all year long and that was only because it was a ducks on the pond pack. So I don’t pull a crazy amount of these packs, but I’ve collected a fair amount of these packs through just grinding out team affinities, programs, etc and I have not pulled a single diamond in any of these BIAH packs. Even when I’ve got the BIAH bundle I still haven’t pulled a diamond. I’ve pulled a few diamonds in standard packs and even got two diamond pulls as a game reward but never in a BIAH pack. I just don’t get how I haven’t at this point when they have 1:15 odds and I’ve ripped maybe between 30-50 of these packs.

Anyone else’s luck this bad?

Timing window feels off, I just can’t explain it man, it feels really weird right now.

I have no clue what I need to do to get a win. I went from being a World Series player in 19 to not being able to make it further than DS this year. I’m struggling just to make it past wild card. All star difficulty is a joke, it doesn’t matter how good my pitching staff is how well I locate pitches, everything ends up in the seats. Currently on a 6 game losing streak. Despite me outhitting my opponents in almost every game I’m still continuing to lose. I really don’t know what to do. Playing on all star is more stressful than it is fun. I’m losing to guys with records hardly above .500. My lowest pitchers era may be a 5.00. Every game has been something stupid like 8+ runs for both teams.

I’m playing on HOF difficulty. Last week before the update I was hitting .306 on the season and rated 895. Now I’m down to 790 and hitting like 270 something on the season. What gives?

I am getting under the ball quite a bit, but for as many balls that I’m getting just under I’m hitting just as many balls that are hit almost perfectly for good/good lazy flyball outs and good/ok (even though It looks like I’m dead center on the ball in the feedback) it feels like I’m hitting with a wet noodle. The ball just doesn’t feel like it’s jumping off of the bat when I make solid contact. I’m not trying to complain I just want to know if you guys have seen your average significantly drop off too. Did I miss something? Was there some change in the latest patch? Idk what’s going on but it’s really starting to frustrate me.

Like wedge last year where there was just one dot for the center pci. I personally find 3 dots as the center pci to be too distracting. Especially with power guys who have the top dot as their biggest pci dot. I find that I tend to just get right under the ball with the top dot resulting in pop ups and fly outs.

For the most part I really like how you can customize your pci but I hope for next year they give you an option if you want one dot as a center pci or three dots as center pci.

Getting really tired of getting good/ok feedback on balls I’m all over with my pci. This happened a handful of times before patch 1.04 but it’s a lot more frequent since the patch.

For example, it’s hit or miss if my equipment will cart over to gameplay. Best example is with my con L and pow L attributes. With my equipment it’s supposed to be 70/62. Some games it is sometimes it’s my base attributes of 56/49.

Then if I’m using my CF load out and change it to my pitcher load out prior to my game as a starting pitcher it doesn’t register and keeps my default load out.

It makes rtts extremely frustrating and practically unplayable. It’s hard to enjoy the storyline when I’m getting shelled or having games where I’m going 0-4 or 1-4 because the game isn’t registering stuff or bugging out.

Why does hitting feel so different on each system? When I got my ps5 back in November I became a much worse hitter. My season batting average was consistently like a 250-260’s. Now that I’ve switched back to the ps4 when playing the show I’m hitting like .315 on the season. My career BA has also jumped like 6 points. Is there some setting I need to adjust or something. My I game setting are the same for both platforms and I play on a monitor? Yet I’m constantly late on fastballs on ps5 I even set the ps5 to performance mode but I’m still late. What am I missing? It’s extremely frustrating

2 outs in the inning of a time game Opponent has one hit up until this point. Bloop single on a very late swing From the pitcher. Next batter, starts off count 0-2 before 3 straight check swings all called balls before smashing a homerun. I can’t tell you the amount of times I’ve seen this particular sequence of events or something very similar happen. I’ve never seen a game so predictable lol.

I’m not going to complain and say that’s the reason I lost, my hitting has been pretty rough ever since switching to the ps5 but just out of sheer curiosity how many times have you seen this sequence of events or something similar happen?

Like wedge last year where there was just one dot for the center pci. I personally find 3 dots as the center pci to be too distracting. Especially with power guys who have the top dot as their biggest pci dot. I find that I tend to just get right under the ball with the top dot resulting in pop ups and fly outs.

For the most part I really like how you can customize your pci but I hope for next year they give you an option if you want one dot as a center pci or three dots as center pci.

@jz2016cubs said in Compared my pitching statistics from 19 to 20...:

@REDSMAN09 said in Compared my pitching statistics from 19 to 20...:

Let me be clear I’m not a great player. I’m average, maybe above average at best. I don’t go 12-0 and I make WS but that’s about it, I’m not great.

I only looked at the era, HR’s allowed, and walks allowed. Despite me playing 167 less games in 20 than 19, I have given up 161 more walks, 229 more home runs and my era went from a 3.85 in 19’ to a 5.35 in 20’.

I think these numbers help support the statement that User input doesn’t matter as much as it should, either the human pitcher consistency slider has been reduced or human pitcher control Slider has been reduced, or both. to me it’s clear that pitching has lost a lot of its skill gap.

Hopefully in 21 pitching will get an overhaul. Curious to see if any of you guys have compared your stats.

Did you look in the game, or on TSN? If on TSN, I might be able to do it.

In game.

Bauer, Votto, Griffey Jr, Mays, and Morgan,

Let me be clear I’m not a great player. I’m average, maybe above average at best. I don’t go 12-0 and I make WS but that’s about it, I’m not great.

I only looked at the era, HR’s allowed, and walks allowed. Despite me playing 167 less games in 20 than 19, I have given up 161 more walks, 229 more home runs and my era went from a 3.85 in 19’ to a 5.35 in 20’.

I think these numbers help support the statement that User input doesn’t matter as much as it should, either the human pitcher consistency slider has been reduced or human pitcher control Slider has been reduced, or both. to me it’s clear that pitching has lost a lot of its skill gap.

Hopefully in 21 pitching will get an overhaul. Curious to see if any of you guys have compared your stats.

Glad I’m not the only one who was thinking this lol. Like someone else said earlier though, I think it’s just from the prestige pressure.

Given the fact that Jr. was a inning program boss last year I highly doubt that he will be one this year. Especially since none of the bosses have been reoccurring bosses. We’ve already seen Jr. as a WS reward and as a collection reward so I don’t think they would make the 99 card a BR reward since the other 2 Griffey cards are already Somewhat difficult to obtain for a good majority of the community. So what are your guys thoughts?

I’m thinking he will be an “extreme” reward. We’ve previously had conquest extreme and moments extreme so I think either of those modes could be reintroduced or they’ll do a showdown extreme.

Or he could simply be a TA reward.

Let me know what you guys think.

Mo is probably my favorite to use. Sporting a 2.00 era through 18 innings so far. I've got off to a pretty rough start with Britton but he's only pitched a handful of innings but it was just 1 or 2 outings that really ran up his era, other than those few innings he's been good. Rollie is nasty. I just picked up Dibble and used him through 1 inning and he struck out the side.