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@the_dragon1912 said in Thoughts on New Patch; XP grinding:

@radinskyFTG said in Thoughts on New Patch; XP grinding:

@DrewshBag420 said in Thoughts on New Patch; XP grinding:

@radinskyFTG said in Thoughts on New Patch; XP grinding:

HR derby was not an exploit. you received 25xp per HR hit. exactly how it was programmed by SDS. shame on them for nerfing that.

and it sets the example that they will restrict rewards in this game whenever it fits their needs, not the player base. it's greed, pure and simple.

Swing and a miss...but pathetic attempt at a point

how am i wrong? there was no exploit. you played a mode that gave you 25xp per HR. it's that simple. they reduced the amount per HR. what are you missing here?

Playing a casual mode for the sole purpose of gaining rewards in a completely unrelated different mode is exploiting. It doesn’t matter if it was 25xp per HR in years past. There was no issue with HRD grinding for XP in previous years. None. Blame the losers who had to have the prestige rewards in April instead of getting them over time like you were supposed to. Other people cheating the system and SDS fixing it is not anyones fault but the people that were cheating

lol playing a casual mode in the way it was designed by SDS is exploiting?

who are you or SDS to dictate how a game should be played, especially when its being played within the way it was programmed?

my god the SDS sheep have reached a new level!

HR derby was not an exploit. you received 25xp per HR hit. exactly how it was programmed by SDS. shame on them for nerfing that.

and it sets the example that they will restrict rewards in this game whenever it fits their needs, not the player base. it's greed, pure and simple.

@DrewshBag420 said in Thoughts on New Patch; XP grinding:

@radinskyFTG said in Thoughts on New Patch; XP grinding:

HR derby was not an exploit. you received 25xp per HR hit. exactly how it was programmed by SDS. shame on them for nerfing that.

and it sets the example that they will restrict rewards in this game whenever it fits their needs, not the player base. it's greed, pure and simple.

Swing and a miss...but pathetic attempt at a point

how am i wrong? there was no exploit. you played a mode that gave you 25xp per HR. it's that simple. they reduced the amount per HR. what are you missing here?

@Victor_SDS where's the logic in changing the way a game mode rewards a player, as you've done with HR derby?

you designed a game to reward in a certain way. if someone wants to play the mode for hours in a day, that's their choice as a consumer of your product. its simple greed for you to change the reward terms for the users. what a shame.

Ramone suckered me in with custom leagues. But those are incredibly feature lacking. So i decide to grind away in DD.

But RNG is just as prevelant as ever. Some of these Affinity moments are a joke. I've watched Trout miss popups multiple times in the Ohtani moment, which always seems to be followed by a perfect timed pitch hanging for a HR for the next batter... And the HOU Correa moment. AB after AB with good/good or even perfect, but the ball never finds grass.

MTO and Showdown are just as RNG plagued, too. MTO on HOF is the most unrewarding experience I've ever had. CPU smashing balls out of the zone to tie games late. Meanwhile, the heart of my lineup is swinging with pool noodles when it comes to the bottom of the 9th. I understand that patience is rewarded. But being penalized for squaring up early count pitches is not the game I want.

And Showdown is a mode I'll never touch under the current RNG choke hold. Once was enough to see how unrewarding it is with input. Clearly SDS would prefer we waste our time in these modes to prolong game play.

And we all know the joke that is online/competitive play by this point. What a shame. I wonder if we'll ever have a baseball game again that rewards the user. SDS clearly isn't capable of making the game we want, whether it's intentional or a case of inability. But my gue$$ is that is intentional.

@DrewshBag420 said in SDS priorities:

@ejwik13 said in SDS priorities:

Someone else said this so please take credit if it was you. But it’s completely accurate
SDS takes away the things we as a community enjoy before fixing the real issues with the game.

One example, HR derby used to give you a good XP amount. While some may say, it’s unfair cuz that person is getting a ton of XP. My response is. If you want to sit down and play HR derby for 5 hours. You should be rewarded with XP. Like home run derby isn’t that fun. It’s tedious. So if you’re gonna put in the work and do that for 5 hours or whatever it may be. You should be rewarded. And this is coming from someone who didn’t even use that method

This might be the dumbest post ever written..."How dare they fix an exploit used by the few to game the system."

SDS apologists/sheep out in full force this AM.

What are you missing here? People were simply playing a game mode in the way it was DESIGNED BY SDS.

There was no exploit. SDS is simply nerfing things because they don't want people earning rewards as quickly. its greed.

@StarsWillAlign said in SDS priorities:

I mean... Just because the game doesn't work appropriately for everyone on this forum still doesn't mean you should be able to make your team OP by exploiting something that wasn't working right. It's May 1st. These guys have already maxed out XP. They have Thames Springer Ramirez. For exploiting a glitch. Mean while people paid money in these tough times to try and get closer to get Biggio Sheffield Mantle. I mean... There isn't much difference between those 6 99s except name value. Should the game play be fixed? Absolutely. Do they want to fix it? Of course. Is it frustrating? Yes... I haven't seen anyone on the forum complain about getting bogus XP and virtually have a end game team 6 weeks into the game cycle.

HR derby gave 25xp per HR hit. that's it. that's not an exploit. it's simply clear/transparent rewards for those that want to play a game mode included by SDS.

this isn't SDS fixing a glitch. it's them nerfing another aspect of the game that didn't need touched.

SDS apologists today: "its CHEATING when someone wants to dedicate their time to playing a boring game mode in the way it was designed by SDS"

all hail SDS! they can do no wrong. lol

@Blamtagious said in SDS priorities:

@StarsWillAlign said in SDS priorities:

@ejwik13 said in SDS priorities:

@StarsWillAlign said in SDS priorities:

For the people who complete collections and play the DD mode in versus.. showdown.. conquest.. and get the XP by earning it. Playing HR Derby for all of your XP shouldn't reward you with cards and other rewards that are not meant to be obtained so quickly. It's not a grind. It's exploiting a glitch.

Playing a single mode for 5 hours is defienlty a grind. It’s so pointless. If you wanna sit there for 5 hours playing a mode like he derby. Yeah you should get xp

So your telling me people who sit and play something so mind numbly boring that takes no skill should be awarded more XP than those that complete collections for as many teams as possible? Yeah ok. Sure it's a grind.. a extremely tedious one. It's still exploiting a glitch. The HR Derby wasn't designed to give that much XP. That's why they are patching it. I don't really blame SDS.. they would think people bought their game to play and try to get cards.. not play a mode for 10 hours out of a 24 hour day. Lol.. but sure .. big time grind.

If they only wanted people to play the game, earn cards, and complete collections then it wouldn’t be possible to drop some cash into the game and knock it out the first week. Why are they not nerfing collection XP?

i like when he says 'the HR derby wasnt designed to give that much XP'

thats just grade A level ignorance by an SDS apologist.

SDS programmed to reward 25xp per HR. and now they're nerfing it because they didnt like how fast people were gaining XP.

again, what's so hard for people to grasp about that?

It's not a bug or glitch. its SDS changing the terms of their game after the fact, to suit their needs.

@vagimon said in Why do we still play this?:

@halfbutt said in Why do we still play this?:

@vagimon said in Why do we still play this?:

@halfbutt said in Why do we still play this?:

Today after a disappointing ranked game I actually started thinking about making a baseball video game. I have no idea how to go about doing this but the demand for a baseball game based on user input is there.

Have you ever played that super mega extreme baseball on the Xbox one? It looks weird, but I wonder if the guts are any good.

I have not. I was reminiscing about Süper Mario baseball recently though.

If you stripped away all the pitching confidence and batter clutch and all the other extraneous stats, I wonder how this game would play. There are too many factors that go into consideration on every pitch. It’s a wonder the game doesn’t explode when contact is made.

spot on. all of the nonsense they've added like, like pitcher confidence, only leads to a random experience with online play. its amazing how you can be making great contact with guys and the ball seems to have negative exit velocities. but make poor contact on a pitch out of the zone and you find yourself standing on first.

ultimately, i just want gameplay that is consistent. but SDS has added so much random junk attributes in the game since 17 that of course an RNG driven experience is what we're left with.

@t00muchham_xbl said in Co-Op- So Many Softlocks/ Crashes:

Games continues to freeze at the "opponent found" screen. The technical issue is one thing, poor communication with your community is another.

poor communication is business as usual at SDS.

@Paladin2MP said in Take Showdown out of the game!:

Get better

It's impossible to get better when SDS is constantly moving the goalposts with RNG. you can work on whatever aspect of the game you want, but when SDS is changing the environment pitch by pitch, the results in front of you are not representative of your skill level. there's no getting better with the current game state. its simply hoping you swing at the right pitch and that the RNG is in your favor on that pitch.

i did it twice when close to leveling up for the bigger XP rewards like silver 40.

its an incredibly boring experience. but if people wanna "waste" their time in the mode, who cares?

apparently SDS cares enough to nerf it. just a shame that they can modify modes in ways that only seem to benefit their bottom line.

@KOTANK1334 said in SDS priorities:

So I didn't know about th HR derby thing until last night.... I thought I would see how much XP I got. I payed 2 full rounds and won them both but I didn't see much XP at all? What exactly was happening and how were they getting alot of XP?

nothing was happening. the game was rewarding XP EXACTLY how SDS designed it to - 25XP per HR hit in the derby.

SDS greed/ignorance kicked in because people were dedicating their lives to that mode, I guess. but they nerfed it to 8XP per HR moving forward.

not sure how anyone can call it an exploit or cheat. but SDS sheep gonna be SDS sheep.

@KOTANK1334 said in XP ....:

Why is everyone so upset about HR derby getting XP nerfed? Even the way it was you only got 25XP for every home run. So if you hit 60 in one game that's 1,500 XP. Go play SHOWDOWN !!! They literally give you about 3,500 stubs and 12-13,000 XP if you complete it.

i think the frustration is over WHY it was deemed necessary.

The XP system in HRD was the same for years. So why did they decide to nerf it all of a sudden? That's the question people are wanting answered.

I don't care, because the mode was boring to play more than once or twice in a sitting.

I care because it's just another example of a decision that only hurts us all, regardless if we played the mode or not. Where's the reasoning for nerfing XP all of a sudden, other than to slow user progression down? Why this year instead of 19, 18, etc?

@MrGamebred said in pitcher confidence:

@radinskyFTG said in pitcher confidence:

why would batter clutch need to be removed?

I would think it's basically the batters equivalent stat. I could be completely wrong on that though lol. And my bad if I am.

> Edit: SDS isn't exactly specific how these things directly impact things so who really knows.

they keep us in the dark on everything, maybe because they also have no explanation for why this game is so random between sessions. no one knows.

absolutely. i have no desire to waste time on something that has simply become a grind or a gameplay that is inconsistent/dominated by RNG rather than rewarding success.

SDS, or any other company, ultimately want people playing their games as much as possible. i totally get that. and i have the time/freedom to spend that time with The Show. but the way SDS has changed this game since 17 only pushes me away from dedicating much time.

take the Yelich extreme moment, for example. I fired it up, went 5-5 with 1 HR and 4 singles. 3 of those singles were Perfect/Perfect. that was enough for me to make the decision to put this game to bed for the rest of the year. sure, Extreme should be a challenge. but when im doing everything i can on my side to succeed, only to see the game's coding still punish me, whats the point anymore?

everyone should be reporting this via the bug website. the linking process has not been explained at all, and it appears to be a dumpster fire so far.

@PeuswahBoy said in SDS READ THIS AND ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING:

It's really disheartening that a representative of the company took the time to comment, yet deliberately avoided answering the questions. It's one thing to comment on the use of all caps (I have no problem with that), but refusing to say even "I've been instructed not to comment on gameplay issues" or "The dev team is aware of the complaints and is working to correct them" is pretty bad. It's just a bad look.

spot on.

day after day of users sharing how the game is playing, day after day of silence by SDS.

and its been this way since 18.

I've already submitted feedback, wanted to get some other thoughts from the community.

Custom Leagues are the only thing keeping me as engaged with the game this year. And we've put together a website to track stats/league leaders.

It would be nice to be able to filter out only League Games when looking at a user profile. Easier to find the games I need to pull data from.