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@eatyum_psn said in Headliners choice pack question:

@mrkat_psn said in Headliners choice pack question:

@eatyum_psn said in Headliners choice pack question:

@mrkat_psn said in Headliners choice pack question:

@eatyum_psn said in Headliners choice pack question:

@mrkat_psn said in Headliners choice pack question:

@eatyum_psn said in Headliners choice pack question:

@mrkat_psn said in Headliners choice pack question:

@eatyum_psn said in Headliners choice pack question:

Lol. Ask yourself what they have to gain by lying, certainly not enough money for the millions they'd lose in a lawsuit. You can't even nail down how many you've actually opened, is it 20 or 30?

Even 20 would be way below 1 in 3 odds... so that is pointless to bring up.

Second, why would anyone count when playing a game especially when I know how to flip cards and make the mondy anyway.

Third, and most importantly MONEY!!!!! you can buy stubs people pay money for them! If you go play the lottery it's highly regulated and statisticians must get it exactly right or they will crumble under lawsuits.

I wouldn't pay for stubs, but people do and if they're being sold for a product that doesn't give them what it promised it's a problem.

also I got a great deal on snake oil for ya - cures everything ever - just hit me up

It's not pointless to bring up, any court case needs concrete data, if you can't provide that, then you will be laughed out.

Also I'd read my comment again very slowly, about the risk vs reward on SDS's sides, it's heavily skewed towards losing, they would be posterboys for bad microtransactions and probably be sued into bankruptcy.

Thus, why I said subpoena the data. You don't have to actually sue if you raise reasonable concern, and they can prove their innocence with a simple release.

And bad programming happens all the time. It doesn't need to be nefarious. A single digit could be ripping off thousands of dollars just because of a mistake.

Also, don't be a tool. It's always profit over people. That is capitalism. You are only worth the money you provide or have in America.

Money is power, and greed is good.

Where is your reasonable concern considering you can't even say how many you've opened? Do you think a judge is going to take you seriously?

I can't file a subpoena. I am not a lawyer/atty.

And a judge would literally take a represented group on their word as it would be a simple thing for a company to prove.

It would be a small ask, especially on a simple data request which involves nothing proprietary just that a company is providing what it advertised, which happen all the time.

Take you at your word that you don't know how many you've opened?

So since it happens all the time, please answer why EA or SDS hasn't been served a subpeona yet? If it's that simple, it would have happened years ago

Because no one cares it's a video game. Many gamers aren't taken care of and exposed to micro-transaction warfare by companies. I get it you love SDS and hope they get rich off people.

I'm not even advocating a suit or anything. I'm just saying I'd like to see they're providing what their promising especially because I haven't really seen the odds they're promising. If people are buying stubs with real money, and getting ripped off - go ahead and defend that. I don't like to see that.

Again full disclosure- when I buy the show... which i have many times... I buy it and get through by never paying a dime more. That's me. I can get 100K-300K in an hour no problem at the right times.

I was worried about the people that pay. You keep worrying about Sony with a market cap of $105B although an awful showing with a 35% ytd market drop on NYSE.

If you think no one cares because it's a "video game", then there is no point to this conversation, you are delusional, There are plenty of passionate people who would be more then happy to do that if it were that simple

You are right. It is not that simple. I have made it out that way, and that is wrong.

Involves much more than a piece of paper. Which is why stuff like this isn't typically done. Not unheard of, but not typical.

Like I said I couldn't do it, nor do I actually accuse them of wrong, I'm just saying my experience doesn't back up their advertised numbers... ever in any year... for all I know profiles who start with the letter Z get 1:1 and M gets 1:10 and it all balances out. Who knows.

Just seeing what other people thought.

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@mrkat_psn said in Headliners choice pack question:

@dap1234567890 said in Headliners choice pack question:

Oh my!!! Yet another "I'm going to get a lawyer because of pack odds" post!!!

Not a single other person has ever brought a lawsuit...or even found a lawyer who would entertain the idea of bringing a lawsuit over pack odds...I wonder why?

Oh, it's because it would be a frivolous lawsuit that has a 0% chance of winning and not worth their time. That is even with them charging you money for their time, all the lawyers would rather spend their time on lawsuits that aren't frivolous and are worth the time and effort to litigate!

Odds of finding a lawyer to litigate pack odds is worse than the odds of pulling Trout from a standard Show pack!!!

again pulled trout twice so those odds are better 17/18.

Most attorneys don't give a [censored] about chance of winning, it's about who is paying. Attorneys don't really benefit in the outcome just how much they're paid.

Look at all the election lawsuits over 2020 general... none stood a chance. 80+ suits and those hundreds if not thousands of attorneys had no problems although they knew it was a waste of time. Lol in fact, discovery in most of those cases proved the other side was committing election fraud, so they hurt their clients and went home with a nice pretty check.

You've pulled a Trout twice? Out of the hundreds (I may have even reached a thousand) of packs I've opened, I haven't seen Trout. And because his price is so high, I'd bet there are a lot of others in the same boat as me. I'd say you have good pack luck.

Not this season though - in 17 and 18 game got him. I wish I got him here. But I was amazed I got him early one of those seasons. The other was when 50 packs went to 50k, so I dunno if I was already 200 packs to 300 packs in at that point.

Otherwise, I played from like 08-19 and took a break until this year - so maybe luck isn't that great. But got a Tatis early on this year which was probably the best pull I've gotten.

Quick help for people looking for stubs.... don't pay just flip!

simple math equations for cards.

ya just gotta beat the 10% tax.

so make sure you have a good margin over 10%

So buy a card at 10,000 when you see the sell is something like 13,000

that's easy in your head cause 10% is 1,300 - so 1,700 profit.

HERE IS THE CATCH- you're competing so be ready to lower your price - why you would never buy at 10,000 when the sell is at like 11,250 - no profit and no room to move.

Also - people are psychologically attracted to certain numbers and things like 25,50,75,99.

You will see people going down by one each time. That's slower and a waste of time. Also, it's fun to troll those people at drop stub values of cards by a lot.

Hey, if you make 1k in a second over someone who spent 30 minutes dropping by one stub - go for it! They drop and drop- you go back to flipping with more stubs and they are at square one.

Get flipping!