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I guess I’m surprised at people selling their live series diamonds right now. They’re gonna be the best cards in the game for a while with this year’s iteration of power creep. Or am I missing something?

For example, I’ve had decent pack luck (nowhere near a good as I had last year... 2 Ohtani cards over the first weekend!). May favorite two cards to hit with right now are LS Alvarez and Seager. I’m loving pitching with Skubal and Skenes. And leading off with De La Cruz is broken. Plus a slew of other lower LS cards. Why sell them? What other cards are possibly worth it?

Repeat after me: “Packs, no matter which kind, are never worth it. Unless they’re free.”

No matter how tempting… never buy packs.

@KingD234443_XBL they don’t know what that means, is what I mean. They see the message and either ignore it, or don’t understand it, or don’t care.

Hearing you’re getting taxed 10% doesn’t mean anything to anyone. They just I know they’re getting money.

Also, I teach middle school. If it’s any 10-14 year old, they probably aren’t reading a pop up… it’s annoying as [censored].

It has nothing to do with bad math. It’s lacking knowledge to how the market works and the tax system. You never get taxed on quick sell, so honestly, you should never put anything on the market that is 11% or less more than the quick sell value (since that value taxed at 10% would be less than quick sell).

I just don’t think people know.

You don’t have to face any particular starting pitcher. You can see who their pitchers are, and in what order, if you scroll down instead of playing the game. Find the pitcher you want to play against, and make sure you select that spot in your rotation to start also.

@yankblan_PSN said in How to grind using Diamond Quest:

Forfeiting docks you percentage points so it’s not a great strategy IMO, especially for BIAH packs that aren’t even guaranteed.

Agreed. However, the point of this strategy isn’t BIAH packs. It’s plying as many games as possible to grind PxP and get standards. The BIAH packs and the epic cards are just the icing on the cake. We’re trying to recreate some of the repeatable Conquest map rewards from last year. So, efficiency and packs are the goal. Getting four or five standard packs every hour is even better than last year’s repeatable conquests.

Now, that said, I actually do the challenges/moments, but always skip the showdowns. I usually enter the stadiums with a 20-30% chance for a BIAH pack. I’ll take those odds!

@Teak2112_MLBTS I agree with all of this. It’s in its first year, do im hopeful to see this mode evolve. Not sure what future DQ maps will look like. We have yet to see what “requirements” look like…

@DFC_MLBTS Only forfeiting. But, quitting a mini boss counts as a forfeit. I don’t remember if quitting a mission does.

I feel like I should know this, but is there a way to get the third boss without buying it? (Prior to the end of the year when they’ll re-release all bosses)

If not, is it worth buying it for the 30000 extra XP to start the 2nd inning? My heart says probably not, as 30000 XP pretty much gets you nothing important to start the inning.

I’ve managed to finish the 480000 for the 1st inning (I was on spring break this week… also my wife is not happy… ), and I don’t anticipate as much time for the next inning program, so maybe there is value?

Anyway, thoughts?

@mietha_PSN I think this is a little short-sighted. I don’t think they made the mode with the intention of it to be “grindable”. The mode is exactly what they wanted it to be, which is risk/reward. And you have to play it to be increase the chance of the reward. The post I made (the one to which @dbub_PSN is referring) is just a way to make it replace the grind of a repeatable conquest.

Honestly, if you look at it that way, it sort of gives more options for more people. I’m not a big fan of the DQ the way SDS intended, but since I can play it the way I enjoyed grinding conquest maps, and others enjoy the new mode, it’s probably a net win.

@dbub_PSN Awesome; thanks for sharing your rates. I think those would be considered comparable (maybe even better) than the rates for repeatable conquest.

I’m still not sold on DQ as like “a thing”, but for this purpose, it works just fine.

@dbub_PSN Here’s the writeup I just did. Sort of the same things discussed in this thread, but also expanded upon.

https://forums.theshow.com/post/692243

First, it is important to note that even with this method, there is still RNG involved in some aspects of Diamond Quest that can’t be avoided. This mainly includes the number and type of moments or mini bosses that appear, the die rolls, and the random rewards/consequences. The only guarantee is that winning a stadium game will get you a standard pack and losing a stadium game gets you nothing (except earned XP and PxP).

The easiest, most straightforward way to grind is to play the White Sox/Phillies DQ and just “beeline” it to the stadiums, forfeiting every moment and mini-boss situation that arises, and then playing the games on Rookie. It takes 9-moves to get to the White Sox stadium and then another 11 to get to the Phillies stadium (you go around the sweeper). Doing this will result in roughly a 10% (give or take depending on the number of skipped challenges) of also winning a ballin’ pack if you win the stadium game. This method takes a little less than 30 minutes to play the two games, and thus, 4 standard packs can be earned per hour, plus a small percentage (I’d say about 30% on average) of getting at least one ballin’ pack.

However, for a little bit higher of a percentage to gain ballin’ packs, while also grinding PxP and standards. I actually recommend the following method:

First, create two squads. One squad will be your actual PxP grinding squad (parallels, TA missions, whatever you are grinding for). The other squad is your squad used for moments with the DQ. Set that squad as follows:
• Your 7th batter needs to be your best, most comfortable batter, and especially against right handed pitching. This appears to be the most used batter in “major” hitting moments. Dodgers TA Muncy is PERFECT for this spot if you like hitting with him. However, his vision (only 50) might cause issues for some people.
• Your lead off guy needs to be a fast player who can steal bases and with decent hitting (not excellent) and again, be able to hit mainly right handers. If you’re fortunate enough to have him, live Elly De La Cruz is perfect for this spot. Although, his vision (37) is even worse than Muncy’s! So, for some, this can lead to issues.
• Whoever your remaining best hitter is (again.. against righties), put as your #4 hitter.
• Make your #3, #6, and #9 hitters fast players (stealing optional).
• Fill in your #2, #5, and #8 players with batters you like hitting with (mainly against righties… are you sensing a theme?) that also allow you to have no out of position players on the field.
• Your SP can all be used randomly for missions, so make them all good strikeout pitchers you like using.
• LRP and CP are the only relief guys used. Make sure they are also really good strikeout pitchers.

Once you’ve made both squads, you’re ready to go grind DQ.

Make sure you have your DQ squad set as your squad, and go to the White Sox/Phillies DQ. Do the same method as before (beelining to the White Sox stadium), forfeiting minibosses, but this time, you will play the moments. The moments will add an extra few minutes to your overall grind per stadium, but they should be easy(er) to beat with the DQ squad we set up. When you get to the square right the White Sox stadium, do any challenge on that square (or skip it), and then save an exit.

Go to your squads and set your squad to the PxP squad, and then go back to the DQ and continue the same quest. Go to the White Sox stadium and win that game. You can either choose to continue the quest or call it good at that point. If you choose to call it good, and you want to then run the same process again, just start start over.

If you decide to move onto the Phillies stadium, save and exit, load your DQ squad, go back to DQ and get right next to the Phillies stadium (avoiding the sweeper again). Do, or skip, any challenge on that square, save/exit/load PxP squad, and go back to DQ and beat the Phillies.

If you choose this method, in an hour (slightly longer) you can earn around 8 bronze packs (don’t blow those off right now; plenty of high-ish selling bronzes and silvers!), you should also have about a 65% chance of earning at least one ballin pack, and of course, the four standard packs (not to mention a small, albeit a non-zero chance of getting the epic Crochett or Stott cards as well!).

Some other strategies:
• If you get a ballin’ pack with the White Sox, end the DQ! You already got a 100% chance of getting it, so don’t risk losing it by playing the Phillies! Same goes for the Crochett card. If you get it, quit! Take the rewards! You can sell the Crochett card.
• Play the White Sox on All-Star if you have a few positive perks you feel comfortable with. It increases the Ballin’ pack rate by as much as possibly 10%.
• Play The Phillies on Veteran for the same reason.
• Start your #4 pitcher against the White Sox. It forces them to start Davis Martin. The dude hangs every breaking pitch, and his fastball is pretty hittable. His pitches outside the zone are usually very recognizable right away.
• Start your #2 pitcher against the Phillies. This forces them to start Aaron Nola. While not as easy to hit as Martin, for a #2, he isn’t very scary.

Hopefully this all makes sense, and some of you find this helpful! Please add more to the strategies/tips as you all see fit!

@dbub_PSN said in Content is dry?:

@JDHalfrack_PSN

So I like playing on Rookie because I'm 100% guaranteed to win.

Do you recommend playing on Vet (where I'd have probably 80-90% win)?

Or even All Star (probably 60-70% chance to win)?

It just makes me nervous, taking a chance id wasted my time and got nothing.

Im the same way, so I totally get it! I usually play the first game (against the White Sox) on veteran, or even all-star if I have a couple favorable boosts, because seriously… they are absolute trash. If you start your 4th pitcher, they start Martin, who basically hangs everything that isn’t a fast ball (and even his fastball is pretty hitable) or his pitches are pretty obviously out of the zone.

If you stay in DQ, and go play Philadelphia, I would just play that one on rookie.

Okay, did a test run. It took 33 minutes to play the Chicago/Philadelphia DQ. I forgot to mention that you can save a minute or two by just playing both stadiums in that DQ, although Philadelphia is substantially more talented than Chicago (plus you do run the risk of losing your rewards if you do lose that second game; probably shouldn’t lose).

I played Chicago on All-Star (to get the Ballin packs to 30%) and Philadelphia on Veteran (no reason really…) and that ballin percent was 21%.

I actually didn’t get a single ballin (boooo), but came away with the two standards and two bronzes.

So, the math does check out. I’m also going to work quickly on an optimized lineup. What I mean by that is figuring out where you would want players in your lineup for challenges, if you care to do those. You can always adjust your lineup for the actual game (although you are stuck with the 13 players that you start with). The goal being that you have players in the right spot for things like “starting with your seventh batter…”.

Once I get the all figured out, I’ll post an update.

I’m actually starting to think DQ is the better grind option vs conquest or MS for rewards. Hear me out. I’ve already been telling everyone that you can straight up bee-line to the stadiums by forfeiting every quest. If you’re playing DQ for the grind, you don’t care about the percentages.

But if you play the DQ with the ballin packs, you can usually get to the White Sox (an absolute mess of a team) by doing like two quick challenges (if you’d like) and end up being able to play on rookie with anywhere from a 15-25% chance to win a ballin pack on top of a regular pack. Plus, one or two bronze packs maybe (and even an extremely small chance to win the epic card). Don’t sneeze on those bronze packs right now. There are a LOT of bronze/silver cards going for 200+ right now.

Anyway, win and quit the quest.

I’d say in an hour, you could have four regular packs, up to 4 ballin packs, and up to 8 bronze packs.

I’m pretty confident that is better return than mini seasons or the repeatable conquest maps ever gave. Plus, the stadium games give stats and PxP.

@GodShammGod2_XBL said in Sets and Seasons:

I miss 23’s sets and seasons model…

Still my favorite year of MLB the Show ever.

So, can I ask a legit question?

Is it common for people to tag Devs and just expect an answer from them?

Maybe it’s just me, and because I’m getting old, but I find the comments where people tag the devs really rude.

Or, is that like the expectation around here as given by the devs themselves?

@Sarge1387_PSN I agree. Did it for the main reward cards, now I just do it for the repeatable general pack by just bee-lining for the stadium.

If anyone cares, you can bee-line it to the stadium(s) in DQ and do parallel and stat quests that way. Just forfeit all the quests along the way. You get a pack everytime you win.