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It’s sad anyone that defends pitching this year. I’ve played DD for years and it’s never been this bad. Most of the time pitch locating would be a few inches here and there. This year it legit hangs right over the middle. No excuses for pitching or hitting this year. The game is just bad.

18 was no where near this bad. Pitching and fielding are horrible this year.

There’s no baseball skill in this game. I hear people taking about you’re just not good etc. If you play it like it’s an unrealistic arcade game then you can’t call it a real baseball simulation because this year is abysmal in that perspective.

This is by far the worst iteration of the show.

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The issues I’m having with the content is 80% is recycled. If we want to get technical outside of the Team Affinity Prospects its 100% recycled. Each Inning program so far has included someone that was a mainstay in line ups last year. They also are already recycling the new “Legends”. Roberts has already been in lineups as a gold since week 1. Victorino also has been widespread from team collections. Chipper has been around forever. At this rate we wont get too many ‘new” legends until near end of the games life. We will get the best versions of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Ortiz, etc at a time when The game is almost obsolete. SDS could have had some decency to sneak in an Albert Belle or player of his quality its been 2 years. I’d rather have him again instead of Bob Feller’s racist [censored] again and again.

How exactly is Bob Feller racist?

Look up Bob Feller on google. All the back handed remarks and word choice for people of color was blatant. I’m a tribe fan so I heard it on the radio for years and read numerous articles. Eventually some one called him out for it. He decided to call into a radio show argue he wasn’t but it didn’t fool anyone he got mad and hung up. His demeanor was easily read as not caring much for people of color whatsoever.

Gonna need some links/proof of that bud

https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=2133101

https://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/12/16/1879695/bob-feller-dies

Outside of him pushing to get Satchel Paige signed and allowing Negro League players to tour with him his comments about Hispanic players as he got older and his public feud with Jackie Robinson told the true story. This isn’t like Ty Cobb who many believed him to be racist but only went off here say. There’s numerous people over the decades that will tell you Feller was ignorant in many different ways.

So, the first article about the radio show really doesn’t mean much. From what I can tell, the interviewer just kept asking the same question after it had been answered, then kept calling Feller a racist even after he explained that he wasn’t. I don’t blame him for hanging up in that situation. If people have an agenda they want to carry out, there’s only so much you can do to change their minds.

As far as the feud with Robinson goes, I think it’s clear that they had two distinct personalities that clashed, not because of race though. Robinson asked why baseball didn’t have a black manager after 20 years of integration, and fellers response was basically that a black man shouldn’t get a job just for the sake of diversity. If he earns it, he earns it. That’s my interpretation of it. Besides, everything I’ve read says they were good friends again before Robinson died.

Feller clearly had many black teammates and willingly played with/against them without issues, so calling him a blatant racist seems incredibly unfair.

Blatant racist maybe not but a John Rocker type yes. Rocker wasn’t a racist, he’s done some interviews years later and seems pretty cool even has a black gf now and had others in the past. He just was a bigot that said what he pleased and did what he pleased. Sometimes when you are raised a certain way its hard to be impartial to every one when your environment seems to target certain types of people. Was he a product of his environment, maybe, but did he do anything to try to keep from being labeled one, no. Saying and doing are two different things. Anyone can say something to try to defend themselves but if their actions contradicted the perception then a direct explanation wouldn’t be necessary, People who feel they have to publicly defend themselves in a less than calm manner always have something to hide,

But what did he do that would label him as racist though? I don’t think disagreeing with a black man makes somebody racist, especially when there’s been many other cases of him supporting and helping lots of other black players.

As for your last point, I don’t think that’s necessarily true. When you’re defending yourself against somebody that clearly is going to call you a racist no matter what you say, I’d imagine it gets extremely frustrating to deal with said person. At some point you just have to realize that the person is a lost cause, and there’s no point in wasting your time on them anymore.

His way of talking about Hispanic players was what really set people off. I see you most likely want to defend him because you are white and I understand but the bigger picture of things is the fact that when a person of color says something it’s teen for what it was perceived. When a white persons does there’s always a loophole or way to advert. I am multi racial I see every aspect, I am in no way pro Black Lives Matter or Make America Great Again but I do see the scrutiny behind how people tend to favor an explanation for one rather than the other. So take it for what you want “bud” but I like baseball and the people involved but Bob Feller wasn’t a stand up guy.

My point about people being a lost cause applies here.

Clearly I’m not going to change your opinion, just as you’ve done nothing to change mine.

At the end of the day, neither of us knew him personally. I haven’t seen a single statement of his that sounds racist in any way to me.

So you see the scrutiny behind how people tend to favor one explanation over another, yet you’re here making assumptions that Bob Feller was racist based on statements that you want to perceive as racist, but which in reality aren’t. Alright.

Everything I’ve seen says Feller was actually a pretty great guy.

Typical but its cool I know what my ears have heard and have read just like you know your racial bias, back to baseball folks!

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The issues I’m having with the content is 80% is recycled. If we want to get technical outside of the Team Affinity Prospects its 100% recycled. Each Inning program so far has included someone that was a mainstay in line ups last year. They also are already recycling the new “Legends”. Roberts has already been in lineups as a gold since week 1. Victorino also has been widespread from team collections. Chipper has been around forever. At this rate we wont get too many ‘new” legends until near end of the games life. We will get the best versions of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Ortiz, etc at a time when The game is almost obsolete. SDS could have had some decency to sneak in an Albert Belle or player of his quality its been 2 years. I’d rather have him again instead of Bob Feller’s racist [censored] again and again.

How exactly is Bob Feller racist?

Look up Bob Feller on google. All the back handed remarks and word choice for people of color was blatant. I’m a tribe fan so I heard it on the radio for years and read numerous articles. Eventually some one called him out for it. He decided to call into a radio show argue he wasn’t but it didn’t fool anyone he got mad and hung up. His demeanor was easily read as not caring much for people of color whatsoever.

Gonna need some links/proof of that bud

https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=2133101

https://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/12/16/1879695/bob-feller-dies

Outside of him pushing to get Satchel Paige signed and allowing Negro League players to tour with him his comments about Hispanic players as he got older and his public feud with Jackie Robinson told the true story. This isn’t like Ty Cobb who many believed him to be racist but only went off here say. There’s numerous people over the decades that will tell you Feller was ignorant in many different ways.

So, the first article about the radio show really doesn’t mean much. From what I can tell, the interviewer just kept asking the same question after it had been answered, then kept calling Feller a racist even after he explained that he wasn’t. I don’t blame him for hanging up in that situation. If people have an agenda they want to carry out, there’s only so much you can do to change their minds.

As far as the feud with Robinson goes, I think it’s clear that they had two distinct personalities that clashed, not because of race though. Robinson asked why baseball didn’t have a black manager after 20 years of integration, and fellers response was basically that a black man shouldn’t get a job just for the sake of diversity. If he earns it, he earns it. That’s my interpretation of it. Besides, everything I’ve read says they were good friends again before Robinson died.

Feller clearly had many black teammates and willingly played with/against them without issues, so calling him a blatant racist seems incredibly unfair.

Blatant racist maybe not but a John Rocker type yes. Rocker wasn’t a racist, he’s done some interviews years later and seems pretty cool even has a black gf now and had others in the past. He just was a bigot that said what he pleased and did what he pleased. Sometimes when you are raised a certain way its hard to be impartial to every one when your environment seems to target certain types of people. Was he a product of his environment, maybe, but did he do anything to try to keep from being labeled one, no. Saying and doing are two different things. Anyone can say something to try to defend themselves but if their actions contradicted the perception then a direct explanation wouldn’t be necessary, People who feel they have to publicly defend themselves in a less than calm manner always have something to hide,

But what did he do that would label him as racist though? I don’t think disagreeing with a black man makes somebody racist, especially when there’s been many other cases of him supporting and helping lots of other black players.

As for your last point, I don’t think that’s necessarily true. When you’re defending yourself against somebody that clearly is going to call you a racist no matter what you say, I’d imagine it gets extremely frustrating to deal with said person. At some point you just have to realize that the person is a lost cause, and there’s no point in wasting your time on them anymore.

His way of talking about Hispanic players was what really set people off. I see you most likely want to defend him because you are white and I understand but the bigger picture of things is the fact that when a person of color says something it’s teen for what it was perceived. When a white persons does there’s always a loophole or way to advert. I am multi racial I see every aspect, I am in no way pro Black Lives Matter or Make America Great Again but I do see the scrutiny behind how people tend to favor an explanation for one rather than the other. So take it for what you want “bud” but I like baseball and the people involved but Bob Feller wasn’t a stand up guy.

It’s also ironic because last year he had a signature card that was almost 100k less than his LS.

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The issues I’m having with the content is 80% is recycled. If we want to get technical outside of the Team Affinity Prospects its 100% recycled. Each Inning program so far has included someone that was a mainstay in line ups last year. They also are already recycling the new “Legends”. Roberts has already been in lineups as a gold since week 1. Victorino also has been widespread from team collections. Chipper has been around forever. At this rate we wont get too many ‘new” legends until near end of the games life. We will get the best versions of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Ortiz, etc at a time when The game is almost obsolete. SDS could have had some decency to sneak in an Albert Belle or player of his quality its been 2 years. I’d rather have him again instead of Bob Feller’s racist [censored] again and again.

How exactly is Bob Feller racist?

Look up Bob Feller on google. All the back handed remarks and word choice for people of color was blatant. I’m a tribe fan so I heard it on the radio for years and read numerous articles. Eventually some one called him out for it. He decided to call into a radio show argue he wasn’t but it didn’t fool anyone he got mad and hung up. His demeanor was easily read as not caring much for people of color whatsoever.

Gonna need some links/proof of that bud

https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=2133101

https://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/12/16/1879695/bob-feller-dies

Outside of him pushing to get Satchel Paige signed and allowing Negro League players to tour with him his comments about Hispanic players as he got older and his public feud with Jackie Robinson told the true story. This isn’t like Ty Cobb who many believed him to be racist but only went off here say. There’s numerous people over the decades that will tell you Feller was ignorant in many different ways.

So, the first article about the radio show really doesn’t mean much. From what I can tell, the interviewer just kept asking the same question after it had been answered, then kept calling Feller a racist even after he explained that he wasn’t. I don’t blame him for hanging up in that situation. If people have an agenda they want to carry out, there’s only so much you can do to change their minds.

As far as the feud with Robinson goes, I think it’s clear that they had two distinct personalities that clashed, not because of race though. Robinson asked why baseball didn’t have a black manager after 20 years of integration, and fellers response was basically that a black man shouldn’t get a job just for the sake of diversity. If he earns it, he earns it. That’s my interpretation of it. Besides, everything I’ve read says they were good friends again before Robinson died.

Feller clearly had many black teammates and willingly played with/against them without issues, so calling him a blatant racist seems incredibly unfair.

Blatant racist maybe not but a John Rocker type yes. Rocker wasn’t a racist, he’s done some interviews years later and seems pretty cool even has a black gf now and had others in the past. He just was a bigot that said what he pleased and did what he pleased. Sometimes when you are raised a certain way its hard to be impartial to every one when your environment seems to target certain types of people. Was he a product of his environment, maybe, but did he do anything to try to keep from being labeled one, no. Saying and doing are two different things. Anyone can say something to try to defend themselves but if their actions contradicted the perception then a direct explanation wouldn’t be necessary, People who feel they have to publicly defend themselves in a less than calm manner always have something to hide,

So after playing almost 300 RS games I think I have come to the realization of how this happens with pitching.

Hear me out.

When preparing to locate a pitch. You put it in a certain vicinity and the controller feedback vibrates and sometimes won’t allow you to initial the meter. That is because the opponents PCI is already hovering in that section and its a way of warning you they are already set up to expect a pitch there.

Now here is where things get weird/ conspiracy theories kick in.

If there is any algorithm built into the game then its so many possibilities for how it gives some one a competitive advantage or some how makes the playing field more “even”.

This perspective is contingent on whether you try to force the pitch into that location or if you choose to go else where.
Say for example you are trying to force high sinkers or fastballs and the PCI is sitting in that location and you get feedback warning then you have the option to move it or be adamant, the choice is up to the user, right? Some times I feel it is sometimes I don’t

This is why.

I have tried to pitch a person away from where they usually hold their PCI. To find this out I usually test with a few pitches.
If they sit dead center a pitch away roughly belt high that’s either a sinker or change up will tell you based on the feedback. Using pitchers with change ups that aren’t too slow and don’t dive too much are best or pitchers with slower sinkers with a lot of movement.
Late swing means they anticipates something faster and down the middle to lower. Early swing means they anticipated something higher and faster.

There are many different iterations for fooling the hitter but its all contingent on how they are sitting for the fast ball. Some like it high, some like it in some like it away and others, very few just can hit anything.

Now here is where it gets weird.

After determining the preferred PCI location you can start to notice more why the ball hangs or gets miss located where it does.

The most common place for it to hang is dead center and honestly this year for perfect/perfect hits that’s where most people will want to sit. Occasionally you will throw a ball else where and it will hang in a different vicinity and I think that’s because of where the PCI sits. Unless your timing is very bad and you have the yips and drop the PCI too often most of the pitches hung with in a certain zone are hit pretty well.

I notice this way too often. This year I have made it common practice to check the feedback after every pitch for everything I throw. I haven’t found a way to consistently avoid this because a lot of the time on perfect releases on the corners or the edge of the zone you will see a pitch hang and end up 6 inches plus outside of the zone.

The more you pay attention to the game the more this happens. After you make it past 700 and into the harder difficulties its less apparent but there still will be occasion where you are baffled at why a pitch went no where near where you threw it and by the time it left your hand it was already a no doubt home run.

Jung is a monster. Luis Castillo is low key good. Clarke Schmidt and Brudsar are pretty solid and Kyle Wright is nice. The rest are cool Imo outside of these guys I have I only went after Nolan Jones. I didn’t want to invest too much in the others because when stage 3 comes out I need some stubs to get who I want then and properly allocate the funds lol.

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The issues I’m having with the content is 80% is recycled. If we want to get technical outside of the Team Affinity Prospects its 100% recycled. Each Inning program so far has included someone that was a mainstay in line ups last year. They also are already recycling the new “Legends”. Roberts has already been in lineups as a gold since week 1. Victorino also has been widespread from team collections. Chipper has been around forever. At this rate we wont get too many ‘new” legends until near end of the games life. We will get the best versions of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Ortiz, etc at a time when The game is almost obsolete. SDS could have had some decency to sneak in an Albert Belle or player of his quality its been 2 years. I’d rather have him again instead of Bob Feller’s racist [censored] again and again.

How exactly is Bob Feller racist?

Look up Bob Feller on google. All the back handed remarks and word choice for people of color was blatant. I’m a tribe fan so I heard it on the radio for years and read numerous articles. Eventually some one called him out for it. He decided to call into a radio show argue he wasn’t but it didn’t fool anyone he got mad and hung up. His demeanor was easily read as not caring much for people of color whatsoever.

Gonna need some links/proof of that bud

https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=2133101

https://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/12/16/1879695/bob-feller-dies

Outside of him pushing to get Satchel Paige signed and allowing Negro League players to tour with him his comments about Hispanic players as he got older and his public feud with Jackie Robinson told the true story. This isn’t like Ty Cobb who many believed him to be racist but only went off here say. There’s numerous people over the decades that will tell you Feller was ignorant in many different ways.

@squishiesgirl said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:

@BigKJ8923 said in 3rd inning is a bust for me:

The issues I’m having with the content is 80% is recycled. If we want to get technical outside of the Team Affinity Prospects its 100% recycled. Each Inning program so far has included someone that was a mainstay in line ups last year. They also are already recycling the new “Legends”. Roberts has already been in lineups as a gold since week 1. Victorino also has been widespread from team collections. Chipper has been around forever. At this rate we wont get too many ‘new” legends until near end of the games life. We will get the best versions of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Ortiz, etc at a time when The game is almost obsolete. SDS could have had some decency to sneak in an Albert Belle or player of his quality its been 2 years. I’d rather have him again instead of Bob Feller’s racist [censored] again and again.

How exactly is Bob Feller racist?

Look up Bob Feller on google. All the back handed remarks and word choice for people of color was blatant. I’m a tribe fan so I heard it on the radio for years and read numerous articles. Eventually some one called him out for it. He decided to call into a radio show argue he wasn’t but it didn’t fool anyone he got mad and hung up. His demeanor was easily read as not caring much for people of color whatsoever.

Yea NMS people are the equivalent of “blue collar” people in the real world that are so bitter that they had to work hard to get something. I understand that pride in yourself is necessary to compensate for what you don’t have financially etc but there’s no need to put others down for it. The ones that spend [censored] loads on the game might not have spent their money in the best way but its their money to spend. I spend money on the game when I really want a player not to flex the team I have but genuinely enjoy having that player on my team. I spent about $2000 on the game last year won WS a few times had all the players I wanted to play with and saw no issue with it. Over the course of 12 months I spent maybe $150 a month or a little more depending on if there was a stub sale and at the end of the year I counted up and realized how much I had spent. In retrospect it seems like a lot but I enjoyed the game last year enough to do so. Could I have spent the money better, yes. Did I want to,no. I collect sneakers and spent roughly the same amount on a new pair of Air Jordan 1s when they come out so to rationalize it for myself it was the equivalent of buying a pair each month for a year. So for me that was something that could be lived with in my perspective because I wasn’t broke after doing this and yes I “fed the micro transaction monster SDS” but at the time the game was enjoyable and I love baseball so I got my monies worth. This year is another store I bought the $100 version maybe spent $150-$200 on stubs and the game hasn’t really been fun so I tried stub flipping. Once COVID-19 caused numerous people to be stuck at home it got a significant amount more frustrating to turn a profit so I just gave up. For now I’m sitting on 270k stubs and until there’s a player I really need I doubt I’ll spend anymore on this game. It has become pretty bad in RS on DD almost unbearable for the average player.

Supposedly its the crowds and background animations. I feel its more to it than that. I have played numerous people that seem to know its happening and quick pitch high fastballs or sinkers to try to get an advantage. I for one don’t understand a lot of the issues with the game that haven’t been fixed for years but this is by far one of the most consistently annoying ones.

Makes sense because they have yet to acknowledge pitch location issues or how the feedback on the new hitting system is completely random.

The issues I’m having with the content is 80% is recycled. If we want to get technical outside of the Team Affinity Prospects its 100% recycled. Each Inning program so far has included someone that was a mainstay in line ups last year. They also are already recycling the new “Legends”. Roberts has already been in lineups as a gold since week 1. Victorino also has been widespread from team collections. Chipper has been around forever. At this rate we wont get too many ‘new” legends until near end of the games life. We will get the best versions of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Ortiz, etc at a time when The game is almost obsolete. SDS could have had some decency to sneak in an Albert Belle or player of his quality its been 2 years. I’d rather have him again instead of Bob Feller’s racist [censored] again and again.

The most important fixes still aren’t even being addressed smh

PITCH LOCATING

Also i think the new hitting system needs to be adjusted the outer PCI being so large honestly contributes too much to the bad result feedback on hits

I’m 91-91 and honestly feel like I’m my own downfall. Yea I run into guys occasionally that hit everything but it happens it’s a video game not a realistic simulation. I feel like finally figuring out how to avoid as many meatballs as possible has helped. I just can’t ever consistently replicate my PCI placement to get good hits game to game. I made it to 706 DS but have been stuck in WC since. Last year I made WS 914 max 3 out of 7 months of trying. So I don’t feel I’m terrible but I’m not the best either obviously. I just feel like this years game is way more random than last year. I wish they would push out more updates to fix issues because more people are playing but also more developers are home seeing game data that obviously needs adjustments.

Pitch speeds got me all out of whack. My PCI placement is becoming the main reason I can’t win consistently. I’m not really complaining anymore since I can somewhat control the pitching issues but I think that the new hitting system needs to be tweaked. I’m getting so man fly outs to the warning track that are just good okay hits it’s becoming infuriating.