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  • Bridge Piece_XBLB global:{posts.user.status}
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    @yanksthebest_PSN said:

    @Bridge-Piece_XBL

    I would be ok if they took next year off and I love baseball and play this game 80% of my gaming.

    Which means it's not all that bad. Regardless of liking baseball, if you truly hate the game... you'd keep playing it?

    I love Harry Potter, waited years for Hogwarts Legacy to come out... then never even finished it because well, I didn't like it.

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    @TheGoaler_PSN said:

    I do want EA back into baseball. Triple Play/MVP games were good.

    Counter point is that Madden was also great at that time. This is not the same EA.

    Plus do we really want a system of combine 25 sets of common live series into silvers and then into golds and then into diamonds and then combine them with 5 rare round cards and a chase card and 50 moments tokens to get Finest Elly? But you only have one week to get those tokens by completing things like extreme 4 HR in one game on Legend difficulty off of '23 John Donaldson with '23 Kaiju Keith hernandez

    This is what NHL feels like to me

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  • victoryphoenix_MLBTSV global:{posts.user.status}
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    This year’s iteration is terrible, and for a strict NMS player like me, it’s pulled the curtain all the way back. I don't touch online modes because I know I'm way too competitive for it, so I rely on the offline grind. Unfortunately, SDS seems entirely focused on the wrong things.

    I'm convinced the development team just sits around watching Moneyball clips on repeat. When Jonah Hill's accountant starts talking about walks being the exact same thing as hits, or Brad Pitt tells his guys not to steal a base, you just know the devs are sitting there fully erect. But putting their launch-angle, sabermetric obsession aside for a second, the fundamental content management this year is a joke.

    They killed off The Show Live entirely. They bizarrely held back on releasing Reds cards, and when they finally threw us a bone with a 99 Elly, it was practically a mandate to either spend real cash or completely zero out your stubs. I’ve ground out over 2 million stubs through actual gameplay, yet I still can’t earn the Babe Ruth card because SDS decided it needs to be exclusively walled off for the online crowd.

    On top of the content drought, the offline modes are fundamentally broken. I'd love to have the Run It Back Mini Seasons again, but I can't even trust the modes we do have. I quit the All-Star Mini Season because the game physically broke and got stuck on auto-repeat at Game 17. Why would I start another one when I know the same thing is going to happen? I play the WBC Mini Season constantly, and they still haven't bothered to patch the uniform bug in pool play.

    Call my take on the SDS developers extreme if you want, but the reality is simple: a player shouldn't have to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on a game they already bought just to use the players they want. If you actually think SDS is listening to the player base or cares about consumer experience at this point, you're living in an absolute dream world.

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    @victoryphoenix_MLBTS

    I'm curious because you have mentioned sabermetrics several times now as a negative of the game and insulted the devs for using it.

    You mentioned launch angles. To me launch angles and exit velocities are much more than numerical mumbo jumbo. The two in conjunction absolutely determine the distance and trajectory of the ball. And while I have not looked closely this year, when I have looked in the past, the location of the hit was in line with statcasts results. Sure, there may be an argument to be made as to how the game determines those two values but the outcomes seemed correct

    What else about their apparent use of sabermetrics are you against? How would it be done differently?

    There are plenty of reasons to criticize this game but, honestly, your rants about their love of sabermetrics just confuses me.

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    #29

    @Dolenz_PSN
    I noticed this too. I know there are sabremetric doubters out there. I’m not one of them. Maybe @victoryphoenix_mlbts is. But when I started playing this game in ’22 It was clear to me that the things that make MLB the show so great and realistic is the data, physics, etc that is considered in the outcomes. I don’t know anything about code so maybe I’m full of it, but think about Madden (which I don’t play). Baseball is more physics and the other major American sports are more X’s and O’s. I can’t think of anything comparable as far as importance to baseball’s EV and launch angle in football hockey or basketball.

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  • Player99_MLBTSP global:{posts.user.status}
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    @Bridge-Piece_XBL EXCUSE ME SIR? YOU ACTUALLY LIKE THIS GAME? YOU MUST BE A SLOP ENJOYER. GET BETTER! 😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😡😡😡😡😡😡

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  • victoryphoenix_MLBTSV global:{posts.user.status}
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    #31

    Sabermetrics is destroying the game. I'll take players who put the ball in play, use speed to manufacture runs. Over the boredom that is sabermetrics and the three boring outcomes- strikeouts, walks, and home runs are boring. Doubles, triples, bunting, and good pitching. Teaching young pitchers velocity is destroying their arms. Old School baseball is what makes baseball great: the unmeasurables. I couldn't care less what someone's launch angle is. Walks are the not the same as hits. The unmeasurables make a great ballplayer, and I'll take ballplayers over athletes any day. Bill James never actually played the game. More fundamentals, fewer calculations. The eye test matters

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    @Blind_Bleeder_PSN said:

    I loved the game in the past, but I'm not sure the frustration is worth it now.

    Good to see you again (this is @arvcpa_psn ). IMO, this year has been a disappointment. My least favorite cycle since starting DD in 2020.

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  • PriorFir4383355_XBLP global:{posts.user.status}
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    #33

    @TheGoaler_PSN

    It's not fear.

    It's profits. This is what happens when the federal laws against monopolistic practices are loosened to the point where so few corporations exist that they can collaborate and divide up the market into exclusive shares. They choose not to compete directly against each other because by this agreement they each enjoy a monopoly within singular sports.

    For everyone out there enamored by government control of the economy, this is a perfect time to comprehend how corporate control of even individual slivers of an economy results in lazy production and equally tone deaf refusal to work hard for customer loyalty.

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  • Dolenz_PSND global:{posts.user.status}
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    @victoryphoenix_MLBTS

    Well, everyone is free to their opinion. Anytime I think my 62 year old self is too old school and stuck in my ways I appreciate someone showing me that I am not that bad yet.

    I guess my question then would become "How do I turn the 'eye test' into a playable video game. How do you code that?

    Oh, and I have feeling that Babe Ruth thought about launch angles but probably just thought of it as an uppercut swing. Rickey Henderson and Lou Brock probably both appreciated every walk.

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    Rickey Henderson and Lou Brock thought about hitting first then getting on base first and would steal when they did, things that sabermetrics automatons don't do. Babe Ruth and everyone swang level, just when he hit it went further because he used a 44oz bat. Will Clark, Rollie Fingers, Chipper Jones, Wade Boggs, Lou Pinella, Goose Gossage, Fred McGriff, Barry Larkin, Johnny bench and countless other have spoken out about how sabermetrics is making the game unwatchable. How do you implement the eye test step one, make power swinging a short cut to striking out, value opposite field hitting

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  • Bridge Piece_XBLB global:{posts.user.status}
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    @Player99_MLBTS said:

    @Bridge-Piece_XBL EXCUSE ME SIR? YOU ACTUALLY LIKE THIS GAME? YOU MUST BE A SLOP ENJOYER. GET BETTER! 😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😡😡😡😡😡😡

    I’ve been called much worse for enjoying the game 😂

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  • PapaRick68_MLBTSP global:{posts.user.status}
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    Okay, I’ll bite. A walk isn’t as good as a hit? Explain. I first heard that expression when I was in Little League which was well before the dawn of sabermetrics.

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  • Teak2112_MLBTST global:{posts.user.status}
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    @victoryphoenix_MLBTS said:

    Rickey Henderson and Lou Brock thought about hitting first then getting on base first

    Lou Brock maybe but Rickey is #2 all time in walks, it was a huge part of his game. Guys like Rickey and Boggs are where the Moneyball concept comes from. Boggs used to be criticized by some for his walks

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  • victoryphoenix_MLBTSV global:{posts.user.status}
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    #39

    Boggs openly says he doesn't like sabermetrics. When you hit the ball decent players go from first to third, even if you hit it in play towards a fielder they need to make a play on it, good things happen when the ball is in play. A walk is the ultimate sister kisser. I never said walks were pointless, I said hits are better than walks and walks are boring. I stand by that. and to say that maney ball comes from rickey is completely out of left field, Ricky stole, rickey put the ball in play with less than two outs to score runs, rickey didn;t swing for the fences when a single would do.

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  • PapaRick68_MLBTSP global:{posts.user.status}
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    Launch Angle & Exit Velocity are not technically sabernetrics which uses box score statistics as their foundation. They are Statcast Analytics but I understand what you mean. I’m 58 years old and never got much into sabernetrics but I think Rickey Henderson and not Don Mattingly should have won the AL MVP in 1985 and sabernetrics proved this to me and a lot of people of my generation who just felt it to be true simply through observation. Don Mattingly had the eye catching traditional stats like RBI that always rated extremely highly with the voters. Case closed. Now, that being said, Rickey’s job was to get on base, get into scoring position and get home. Donnie’s was to drive him home. I view sabernetrics as just another tool in the toolbelt. Moneyball was an interesting read but the movie took a lot of dramatic license. I know in my heart that there is such a thing as being clutch which sabernetrics dismisses as chance and sometimes a bunt or a steal is absolutely vital. I still believe, however, that a walk is absolutely as good as a hit but Donnie was of the mindset that I need to get this guy home and a walk would only do that with the bases loaded.

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  • JediEl1823_PSNJ global:{posts.user.status}
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    It's right to call out SDS, especially the Finest drop.

    No Finest collection, oh if you collect 55 of them you get 1/32 of Elly. Making the packs all choice packs, so Deluxe packs mean nothing. We did get some really good free cards, but man, the drop was bad.

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  • TheGoaler_PSNT global:{posts.user.status}
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    @JediEl1823_PSN said:

    It's right to call out SDS, especially the Finest drop.

    No Finest collection, oh if you collect 55 of them you get 1/32 of Elly. Making the packs all choice packs, so Deluxe packs mean nothing. We did get some really good free cards, but man, the drop was bad.

    I found out the painfully hard way. Didn't see the fine print that said this only gets you 1 voucher. Ouch. My only saving grace is the P5 94 Spotlight Elly is still great, and it's November!

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