All Time Teams Program - Greg Maddux and 5 Other Legends
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I've wanted this back for years. It was a blast in 20, and I agree that an All Time Conquest would be incredible.
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Note to SDS: A USA conquest that refreshes each inning with the best cards would be a good way to let offliners earn WC cards (after a period of exclusivity) in future years
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Oh boy. And the reward for the Extreme one is a Variant of the standard one? I never played the Extreme Program before but a lot of folks seem to think highly of it and that doesn’t seem so great to me.
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Oh boy. And the reward for the Extreme one is a Variant of the standard one? I never played the Extreme Program before but a lot of folks seem to think highly of it and that doesn’t seem so great to me.
Put some high value things like a chase selector and its the perfect way to do it.
Braves fans can get their Maddux, collectors and challenge seekers have more content. Sure, some people may want to gatekeep exclusive cards but the people that enjoy extreme will still be able to enjoy extreme
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Sounds like this could be a fun idea. Curious to see how it works. I wonder if each team will be like a 3 or 9 inning game that's a "moment" which earns you points for the program.
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The answer to my earlier question is yes.
MLB The Show 26 — Legends by MLB Team
This list organizes 85 Legends (without 99s) by the MLB franchises they played for during their careers, regardless of how briefly.
- Players are listed under every MLB franchise they represented.
- Historical franchises are grouped under their current team names (e.g., Montreal Expos = Washington Nationals).
- Numbers in parentheses indicate the player's OVR rating.
- Players who never appeared for any of the current 30 MLB franchises are listed separately.
- An asterisk (*) indicates a Baseball Hall of Famer.
AMERICAN LEAGUE
AL EAST
Baltimore Orioles (10)
Darren O'Day (96), Don Baylor (91), Harold Baines (98), Jim Johnson (98), Jim Thome (88), Lee Smith (88), Rafael Palmeiro (88), Satchel Paige (91), Steve Finley (95), Ubaldo Jiménez (95).
Boston Red Sox (13)
Andre Dawson (88), Carlos Peña (88), Corey Kluber (95), Don Baylor (91), Eric Gagné (88), Grady Sizemore (92), Ian Kinsler (98), Jim Rice (93), Juan Marichal (88), Lee Smith (88), Mike Cameron (88), Roger Clemens (97), Tom Seaver (88).
New York Yankees (16)
Al Leiter (97), Chase Headley (95), Corey Kluber (95), Darren O'Day (96), David Justice (90), Don Baylor (91), Gaylord Perry (94), Jason Giambi (88), Jim Kaat (88), Lee Smith (88), Lou Gehrig (93), Paul O'Neill (95), Raúl Ibañez (92), Rich Gossage (88), Roger Clemens (97), Whitey Ford (98).
Tampa Bay Rays (3)
Carlos Peña (88), Corey Kluber (95), Grady Sizemore (92).
Toronto Blue Jays (4)
Al Leiter (97), Carlos Delgado (93), Roger Clemens (97), Troy Glaus (92).
AL CENTRAL
Chicago White Sox (10)
Harold Baines (98), Jim Kaat (88), Jim Thome (88), Justin Morneau (88), Larry Doby (89), Mike Cameron (88), Rich Gossage (88), Rob Dibble (96), Steve Carlton (96), Tom Seaver (88).
Cleveland Guardians (15)
Bert Blyleven (88), Bob Feller (88), Corey Kluber (95), David Justice (90), Gaylord Perry (94), Grady Sizemore (92), Hal Newhouser (88), Harold Baines (98), Jason Giambi (88), Jim Thome (88), Larry Doby (89), Ralph Kiner (92), Satchel Paige (91), Steve Carlton (96), Ubaldo Jiménez (95).
Detroit Tigers (7)
Carlos Peña (88), Eddie Mathews (86), Hal Newhouser (88), Ian Kinsler (98), Jim Johnson (98), Larry Doby (89), Luis Gonzalez (88).
Kansas City Royals (7)
Carlos Peña (88), Gaylord Perry (94), Mark Davis (89), Mike Moustakas (93), Raúl Ibañez (92), Vida Blue (88), Wally Joyner (95).
Minnesota Twins (8)
Bert Blyleven (88), Don Baylor (91), Jim Kaat (88), Jim Thome (88), Joe Mauer (96), Justin Morneau (88), Steve Carlton (96), Tony Oliva (98).
AL WEST
Athletics (11)
Billy Williams (94), Carlos Peña (88), David Justice (90), Don Baylor (91), Don Sutton (83), Harold Baines (98), Jason Giambi (88), Jim Johnson (98), Rich Gossage (88), Satchel Paige (91), Vida Blue (88).
Houston Astros (8)
Carlos Peña (88), Don Sutton (83), Eddie Mathews (86), Jeff Bagwell (88), Luis Gonzalez (88), Nolan Ryan (96), Roger Clemens (97), Steve Finley (95).
Los Angeles Angels (14)
Bert Blyleven (88), Darren O'Day (96), Don Baylor (91), Don Sutton (83), Ian Kinsler (98), Jim Edmonds (90), Jim Johnson (98), Lee Smith (88), Mike Moustakas (93), Nolan Ryan (96), Raúl Ibañez (92), Steve Finley (95), Troy Glaus (92), Wally Joyner (95).
Seattle Mariners (6)
Edgar Martinez (91), Gaylord Perry (94), Kyle Seager (90), Mike Cameron (88), Raúl Ibañez (92), Rich Gossage (88).
Texas Rangers (11)
Bert Blyleven (88), Carlos Peña (88), Corey Kluber (95), Darren O'Day (96), Eric Gagné (88), Gaylord Perry (94), Harold Baines (98), Ian Kinsler (98), Nolan Ryan (96), Rafael Palmeiro (88), Rich Gossage (88).
NATIONAL LEAGUE
NL EAST
Atlanta Braves (13)
Bruce Sutter (91), Darren O'Day (96), David Justice (90), Eddie Mathews (86), Gaylord Perry (94), Greg Maddux (96), Henry Aaron (91), Jim Johnson (98), Mark Davis (89), Red Schoendienst (98), Ted Simmons (96), Troy Glaus (92), Wally Joyner (95).
Miami Marlins (5)
Al Leiter (97), Andre Dawson (88), Carlos Delgado (93), Luis Gonzalez (88), Mike Cameron (88).
New York Mets (8)
Al Leiter (97), Carlos Delgado (93), Darren O'Day (96), Duke Snider (91), Gary Carter (96), Mike Cameron (88), Nolan Ryan (96), Tom Seaver (88).
Philadelphia Phillies (7)
Chase Utley (94), Grady Sizemore (92), Jim Kaat (88), Jim Thome (88), Mark Davis (89), Raúl Ibañez (92), Steve Carlton (96).
Washington Nationals (3)
Andre Dawson (88), Gary Carter (96), Lee Smith (88).
All three played for the Montreal Expos.
NL CENTRAL
Chicago Cubs (13)
Andre Dawson (88), Billy Williams (94), Bruce Sutter (91), Carlos Peña (88), Greg Maddux (96), Jim Edmonds (90), Lee Smith (88), Lou Brock (94), Luis Gonzalez (88), Monte Irvin (89), Rafael Palmeiro (88), Ralph Kiner (92), Rich Gossage (88).
Cincinnati Reds (7)
Jim Edmonds (90), Lee Smith (88), Mike Cameron (88), Mike Moustakas (93), Paul O'Neill (95), Rob Dibble (96), Tom Seaver (88).
Milwaukee Brewers (10)
Don Sutton (83), Eric Gagné (88), Henry Aaron (91), Jim Edmonds (90), Mark Davis (89), Mike Cameron (88), Mike Moustakas (93), Rob Dibble (96), Robin Yount (91), Ted Simmons (96).
Pittsburgh Pirates (6)
Bert Blyleven (88), Bill Mazeroski (85), Justin Morneau (88), Ralph Kiner (92), Rich Gossage (88), Willie Stargell (83).
St. Louis Cardinals (9)
Bruce Sutter (91), Jim Edmonds (90), Jim Kaat (88), Lee Smith (88), Lou Brock (94), Red Schoendienst (98), Steve Carlton (96), Ted Simmons (96), Troy Glaus (92).
NL WEST
Arizona Diamondbacks (3)
Luis Gonzalez (88), Steve Finley (95), Troy Glaus (92).
Colorado Rockies (5)
Jason Giambi (88), Justin Morneau (88), Mike Moustakas (93), Steve Finley (95), Ubaldo Jiménez (95).
Los Angeles Dodgers (11)
Chase Utley (94), Don Sutton (83), Duke Snider (91), Eric Gagné (88), Gary Carter (96), Greg Maddux (96), Jim Johnson (98), Jim Thome (88), Juan Marichal (88), Luis Gonzalez (88), Steve Finley (95).
San Diego Padres (10)
Chase Headley (95), Gaylord Perry (94), Greg Maddux (96), Ian Kinsler (98), Jim Edmonds (90), Mark Davis (89), Mike Cameron (88), Rich Gossage (88), Steve Finley (95), Wally Joyner (95).
San Francisco Giants (12)
Duke Snider (91), Gary Carter (96), Gaylord Perry (94), Juan Marichal (88), Mark Davis (89), Matt Cain (83), Monte Irvin (89), Red Schoendienst (98), Rich Gossage (88), Steve Carlton (96), Steve Finley (95), Vida Blue (88).
NEGRO LEAGUES LEGENDS — NO AL/NL FRANCHISE
These 14 players never appeared for any of the current 30 American League or National League franchises.
- Andy Cooper (88)*
- Leroy Matlock (88)
- Ray Dandridge (88)*
- Bill Foster (89)*
- Buck Leonard (89)*
- José Méndez (89)*
- Judy Johnson (89)*
- Leon Day (89)*
- Oscar Charleston (89)*
- Rap Dixon (89)
- Toni Stone (89)
- Biz Mackey (90)*
- Bullet Rogan (90)*
- Turkey Stearnes (90)*
The Negro Leagues are officially recognized as major leagues by MLB. This separate category only indicates that these players did not appear for one of today's 30 AL/NL franchises.
SUMMARY
- Total Legends: 85
- Legends with AL/NL franchise appearances: 71
- Negro Leagues-only Legends: 14
- Most represented franchise: New York Yankees (16)
- Fewest represented franchises: Arizona Diamondbacks, Tampa Bay Rays, Washington Nationals (3 each)
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To each his own but an Extreme Program to earn Variants doesn’t sound like it’s for me especially since folks made it sound like there were excellent rewards in past Extreme Programs but I guess we’ll see on Friday.
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Some interesting comments on Twitter.
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@PapaRick68_MLBTS
In a previous version and I don’t remember what year it was but you had to get 4 extra base hits with Gehrig on HOF in the same game maybe it was 4 HR’s at Shibe Park. Trust me it took forever. -
Thank you. That’s insane. Now that’s just a quicker way to complete some Moments. Maybe I misunderstood how great the Extreme Programs were? Ha ha
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@dolenz_psn
Not sure I understand your post. Is that a list of Legends that don’t have a 99 or the players you would grind for? I’m not grinding for anything less than a 99 -
My take on this...
They've probably seen only a small percentage of the community finish Extreme in past years. It drops late in the year, and you either have to be good enough to beat it or grind PXP for months.
I'm not big on variant cards, but I enjoy Extreme, so I'll still do it for the challenge. And I'll complete the other program too because, well, OCD.
Casual players can get the good cards, and those of us who want the challenge still have it. Even though I'd personally be happy just playing Extreme, I can appreciate giving everyone a path to the rewards.
I don't know. I think they got this one right.
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@PapaRick68_MLBTS
In a previous version and I don’t remember what year it was but you had to get 4 extra base hits with Gehrig on HOF in the same game maybe it was 4 HR’s at Shibe Park. Trust me it took forever.I remember that one. I think it was 2020, my first year of DD. That one took me weeks, literally. I'd load into the moment, try for 15 minutes, then move on. I think it was 4 XBH. And... I think SDS later changed it to 3.
AND... That was when you had to complete everything, including a difficult Showdown where Nate Pearson was the final boss, to get all the cards.
@savefarris_psn might be able to correct me on my various inaccuracies...
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What makes the variant special, slightly different attributes, while "extremely " doubtful able to sell them?
To me its a "extreme" waste of time to do something because the card has a spotlight that shines a different shade of color but has the same attributes as the one you can grind in half the time.
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People do extreme moments simply because they enjoy the challenge. I don't think the extreme program was ever popular specifically because of its reward, it was popular because some people enjoy higher difficulty challenges.
I really do feel that for the majority of people who enjoy higher difficulty content that variants would be enough provided there are some high profile pack items mixed in too. Like a chase card selector that has Randy in it.
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People do extreme moments simply because they enjoy the challenge. I don't think the extreme program was ever popular specifically because of its reward, it was popular because some people enjoy higher difficulty challenges.
I really do feel that for the majority of people who enjoy higher difficulty content that variants would be enough provided there are some high profile pack items mixed in too. Like a chase card selector that has Randy in it.
This, exactly. I couldn't care less about the variants, but I love the challenge.
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I do agree, they would have to juice things up around the variants to make it worthwhile. If they do that Id do it. Ballin' packs, Show packs, Headliners, deluxe and even at this point premier packs would not be worth it to me.
Last year's extreme program I was hyper focused on getting that endgame Ely. Those rewards were time well spent!
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My take on this...
They've probably seen only a small percentage of the community finish Extreme in past years. It drops late in the year, and you either have to be good enough to beat it or grind PXP for months.
I'm not big on variant cards, but I enjoy Extreme, so I'll still do it for the challenge. And I'll complete the other program too because, well, OCD.
Casual players can get the good cards, and those of us who want the challenge still have it. Even though I'd personally be happy just playing Extreme, I can appreciate giving everyone a path to the rewards.
I don't know. I think they got this one right.
I agree, I honestly think it’s genius to offer a variant for people that want to do the extreme challenges.
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The variant isn’t even cool looking, it’s just so mid. I actually like the regular one better. The all blue is boring, basically same as terry P
