How is the Community Market feeling (7)
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Same as asking did the sun rise, or are their bugs on this game? Yes bots are all over this game you dummies.
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@Manu__SDS_MLBTS without telegraphic the playbook to the bad guys - can we expect something/anything to be done about the marketplace bots by the end of the day? Michael king Mexico card is 39k right now, which is sweet because I got 10x at 9k. But before my screen even refreshes with my sell bid, I’ve been outbid. So quickly that the lower bid shows on my screen at the time my bid shows up on my screen for the first time! Even if I try to bid 15k less then the lowest bid, instantly outbid. Is it some other loser wasting time in a bidding war over selling 10x Michael king Mexico cards for 1 stub less then another seller is? For 30 minutes? Or am I trying to compete with a bot that is programmed to win all buys and sells of a card to manipulate the market and grow their stubs, so they can sell them for a fraction of the retail cost and deliver them through more market manipulation? Their activity has spread across the entire marketplace. Every card. 24/7. Has this been brought to the attention of whoever makes decisions on what gets done behind the scenes for the game? If activating the filter that blocks bots isn’t going to happen, can rate limiting be introduced again at least? This is just so bizarre that nothing is getting done to remedy this. It’s been 6 months. If the filter can’t be turned back on today - can we get an idea of when this might be addressed again? I like spending my time on this game but it’s not so much fun when I’m resenting myself for wasting time trying to play a game that’s rigged.
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Forgot to mention… another reason I am asking if anything is going to be done about blocking bots is because I’m wanting to do a new round of investing and want to know if I should be evaluating future demand (especially collections), current and future supply, upcoming content/pack changes, historical price, liquidity/market activity, potential ROI after the 10% tax, and the downside risk if my prediction is wrong… or should I just continue to follow bot activity?
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If anything banning the players that bought 3rd party stubs has made the market even worse. The banned players are all starting alt accounts and buying cheap stubs from the 3rd party sites to get things quickly built back up. The 3rd party sites are likely seeing a huge spike in business from all these banned players now buying up stubs. So bots are now in overdrive on almost every card. Without IP bans for all guilty parties and shutting down the app and internet transactions permanently to halt bot activity this cycle will never end and only get worse. Pretty sad state of affairs they find themselves in. Complacency always has its reckoning.
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Bingo...with maybe the exception of shutting down the app.... but IP bans..... drop a couple of those on the worst offending content creators and make examples out of them, that would surly deter a gaggle of players.
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For sure. But they are clearly afraid to lose out on the free marketing.
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I don’t keep my finger on the pulse, but what has caused the market prices to plummet over 50% over the last few days?
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Bots plus the game being released for free on PlayStation. Lots of new players are earning tons of free packs flooding the market. Then bots are locking down every card and killing all margins because the recent ban wave plus new players trying to get ahead are flocking to purchase cheap 3rd party stubs. The market is a complete dumpster fire at this point.
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Yeah, I have about 3 million stubs, so might use them to buy some cheap players.
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I’m honestly confused about what I’m supposed to think at this point. I’ve done just fine flipping and making stubs. With bots operating in ways no human could ever mimic, investing now mostly comes down to figuring out where and when the bots are going to be most active. Flipping has become almost effortless, and honestly it’s not fun anymore. The human strategy and competition that made the market fun are basically gone.
The person working on the app seems perfectly capable of building filters that actually stop the bots. The problem seems to be that every time he gets the chance to do something about it, someone above him decides it’s time to move on to something else. And apparently he’s also told not to respond to the people asking why the problem still exists.
So I’m trying to figure out what the new investing strategy is supposed to be. Should I keep looking at supply, demand, collections, upcoming content, historical prices, liquidity and ROI? Or should I just try to figure out what the bots are doing?
I’m sure there’s a perfectly good reason SDS is letting automated accounts operate around the clock while legitimate players are left wondering if anyone is actually paying attention. The bots are paying attention 24/7, yet this forum was offline for two days before being put back online. That pretty much sums up the whole situation. The bots are always watching, while the people responsible for dealing with the problem can’t even keep the forum available for players to raise concerns. I’d really like to hear what the reason is. These bots are stealing stubs from players and real money from your company, out in the open for everyone to see. I mean, if that doesn't prompt action to be taken.. shameless.
