How is the Community Market feeling? (6)
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@Manu__SDS_MLBTS I can no longer buy or sell. I get a marketplace ban when i do one order. Tried 3 times after i started getting the error everyone else is talking about and have received a 15 minute, 8 minute, and currently now a 16 minute ban.
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@senorcheff_psn, do a full close and restart of the app.
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@SaveFarris_PSN I did after every ban. Even cleared cache and data after the second one. Still got banned after 1 buy order.
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My account keeps getting cool downs. I wait the required time limit, and try again, and then the ban doubles. Companion app is broken.
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Howdy,
At the moment, this is our best - and likely only - option for restoring fairness to the Marketplace while granting access from the App.
reCAPTCHA, combined with the other safeguards introduced this year, is clearly having an effect. Since this afternoon, we’ve recorded:
- 79,941 invalid requests
- 4,598 allowed requests
- 236 rejected requests
Approximately 99% of rejected assessments come from devices that cannot produce a valid assessment; those devices are consequently blocked from the marketplace. The impact on the Marketplace economy should become visible fairly quickly.
Invalid responses are almost certainly coming from devices we do not want accessing the App. However, a legitimate user can occasionally receive a rejected assessment. Repeatedly retrying after a rejection may be interpreted negatively by reCAPTCHA and further affect the device’s assessment.
The score is not based simply on how quickly orders are placed or canceled. It is calculated from a broad combination of signals.
If you receive a rejection, I suggest:
- Temporarily using the website to give your device’s reCAPTCHA reputation time to recover.
- Searching for
how to improve my reCAPTCHA score on a mobile devicefor additional guidance.
We have a vast numbers of parameter that we can continue to adjust to make this work as best as possible.
Thanks for sticking around and for being patient and supportive!
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@Manu__SDS_MLBTS thank you Manu! The app has worked fantastically tonight and you can tell the difference with the marketplace margins. I had a couple of error messages earlier today but after signing out and back in that cleared them. Appreciate all you do!
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I granted you a PASS, you should be good.
You have logged 13 consecutive (?) reCAPTCHA failures today... -
I googled how to improve recaptcha score. Turn off VPNs - dont have one on my phone. Sign into a Google account - I am. Use standard browsers - using the default that came on my Galaxy s21 ultra. Allow natural interaction - I do. Update your device - it is. Not sure what you want us to do man. Banning people from the marketplace for placing a single order is dumb and has nothing to do with "fairness"
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Just tried to sell one common card for 11 stubs, banned. What fairness are we protecting?
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I have a question about what you consider normal Marketplace usage for a legitimate human flipper. How frequently should a normal player actually be able to use the Marketplace for buying and selling?
I actually only ran into this because I saw your post about testing the new Marketplace filter and wanted to see whether I would be affected.
I hadn't done any flipping or Marketplace transactions for three days, so I simply found a random bronze card and placed a 25-Stubs buy order as a test. That very first order resulted in a 10-minute cooldown.
That's what concerns me. I wasn't doing any high-frequency activity or anything remotely resembling bot-level behavior — I was literally just testing the Marketplace with a single 25-Stubs order.
So what level of Marketplace activity do you actually consider normal for a legitimate human flipper?
I'm not asking for unlimited transactions or bot-level activity. I understand the need to fight bots, but there needs to be a reasonable level of access for legitimate players who use the Marketplace regularly.
The problem is that restrictions like this don't really stop me from flipping — they just push me back to the console. And the console doesn't even have the same Favorites functionality that makes the App useful for managing the cards I'm interested in.
If this level of restriction is truly necessary, then I think the console Marketplace needs to be improved accordingly. The web Marketplace has already become much less practical for flipping after the reCAPTCHA frequency was increased. I've been using the Marketplace for years, and I've seen firsthand how much that change affected the experience, and now the App is becoming increasingly difficult to use as well. If the App and web versions are going to restrict how frequently legitimate players can use the Marketplace, then the console should at least provide the same basic tools and convenience.
Otherwise, it feels like every Marketplace option is gradually becoming more restrictive rather than simply addressing the bot problem. I really hope the goal is to stop automation without limiting how legitimate players are allowed to use the Marketplace.
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Hi. Should I be receiving recaptcha challenges? I am not. And haven't been able to sell one card from the app since this went into effect. I just tried again after about 8 hours and it put me in a cool down on my first attempt.
Device:
Galaxy S24 ultra
I have google accounts on here
I use chrome 99% of the time to browse the web
No VPNIt says "verification request cannot be completed..."
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@JimmyJamRHC_MLBTS same here. This is unreal.
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Tried again this morning literally banned for canceling a pending sell order, like are we doing man.
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Good morning: I have not been able to get post or sell any items after a few this morning. The marketplace looks good but I am getting the captcha cooldown now. I have logged out of my IOS device and back in and still have the error.
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@manu__sds_mlbts Went just now to quick sell a dup and received a quick flash message that something couldn't be verified and I'm not on cool down or not. Last sell order that I placed was on the 28th and I had a card sell on the 31st, but otherwise I've not tried to sell any of my dupes since the 28th.
So what am I doing wrong? I'm using a Pixel 9.
Psy
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How about eliminating the app, problem solved.
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Can you confirm that right after the error message you tried again and it worked?
With a score of 0.8 you would amply pass the gate
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I do like 20 ordered then get a timeout for 40 mins it’s wild
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Okay I feel like this might be mostly an android issue? I have an iPhone as well, downloaded the app, and it worked no problem.
Unless my "reputation" is better on android than ios?
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@yanksthebest_PSN brilliant idea!
- iOS: Touch and hold the app → Remove App → Delete App.
- Android: Touch and hold the app → Uninstall → Confirm.
