Decreasing Ohtani/Judge Odds
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@x-814-x-MAFIA-x_PSN Because you can literally look up the odds instead of trying to call me a liar.
Where in my post did I call you a liar?
I just asked if the info you read, and subsequently reposted, was from a reputable source or from one of the "tin hat" conspiracy theorists that post random words because they havent been able to pull Judge or Ohtani.
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@x-814-x-MAFIA-x_PSN Because you can literally look up the odds instead of trying to call me a liar.
Where in my post did I call you a liar?
I just asked if the info you read, and subsequently reposted, was from a reputable source or from one of the "tin hat" conspiracy theorists that post random words because they havent been able to pull Judge or Ohtani.
You can see the odds of the players in packs that they (sds) provide in the shop. I assume that number changed so no tin foil hat necessary. Also, while I haven't personally gone online to confirm, dolenz also agreed and shared the exact numbers in a response. Trying to be objective here, but it did seem like you were calling out the op.
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@x-814-x-MAFIA-x_PSN Because you can literally look up the odds instead of trying to call me a liar.
Where in my post did I call you a liar?
I just asked if the info you read, and subsequently reposted, was from a reputable source or from one of the "tin hat" conspiracy theorists that post random words because they havent been able to pull Judge or Ohtani.
Did you miss my post where I said that I verified the numbers by looking up the odds on SDS's own website?
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If true, this should tell even the most ardent SDS fans of both of their priorities and the sharp diminution of quality.
I looked up their numbers on the SDS site where they list the odds for all packs.
In a standard Show pack it went from .008% to . 006%, which is indeed a jump from 1 in 12,500 to 1 in 16,666.7
The only justification, if there even is one, would be if they bettered the odds in other common packs like Ballin is a Habit.
This is very sad. It seems as if the monetization is getting the better of them. I truly hope they balanced it out increasing the odds on other packs. Still pretty $hitty.
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I told you all they were manipulating odds 3 months ago. And they were to some degree. Youll never convince me otherwise. This proves they can change and manipulate odds whenever they see fit. Some of you argued with me about that also.
You all smack talked me. Called me a tin foil hat wearer. I could tell by my own pack openings they manipulated the s h I t out of them. Not hard to figure out and see.
They probably changed these odds months ago and are just now disclosing it. This company is full of
. And absolutely disgusting.Whats even more bothering is how naive some of you are. Thinking they would not do something like this.
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I told you all they were manipulating odds 3 months ago. You all smack talked me. Called me a tin foil hat wearer. I could tell by my own pack openings they manipulated the s h I t out of them. Not hard to figure out and see.
The difference is that this is verifiable from their own site and documentation.
Your claims, whether they were right or wrong, were anecdotal in nature. Those of us who have been around years have seen such an extreme amount of anecdotal claims stated as facts that we are leery and mistrusting of almost all of them.
If I remember that discussion my argument against the manipulation was the published odds on their website which specifically for these two players had not changed. I think I even did a breakdown with an infographic of the odds.
This was the same exact website that I used to verify that the original poster's claim was true.
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@Dolenz_PSN the main argument was that they can manipulate odds anytime they want. And im saying they do. How do we know they didnt manipulate and change these odds months ago and just now disclosed it. Waiting till now at the end of the game cycle to disclose it. So they didnt lose money of course. What else are they manipulating? I no longer trust them. Period.
Arguments towards me were that the odds were posted so they cannot manipulate them. This proves they can change them anytime they want, and manipulate them.
So now how do we know they didnt manipulate other odds for a period of time and then switched them back? We dont know. Do you trust them now?
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@x-814-x-MAFIA-x_PSN Because you can literally look up the odds instead of trying to call me a liar.
Where in my post did I call you a liar?
I just asked if the info you read, and subsequently reposted, was from a reputable source or from one of the "tin hat" conspiracy theorists that post random words because they havent been able to pull Judge or Ohtani.
You asked and then subsequently answered the question on your own. You can play semantics all you want.
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Regulatory Scrutiny: In the US, the FTC monitors these monetization models; companies that use deceptive practices or fail to disclose the real odds of chance-based items risk severe penalties.
Looks like I'll be updating my complaint from last week.
Does anyone have or can tell me how to get a screenshot of the original odds?
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Regulatory Scrutiny: In the US, the FTC monitors these monetization models; companies that use deceptive practices or fail to disclose the real odds of chance-based items risk severe penalties.
Looks like I'll be updating my complaint from last week.
Does anyone have or can tell me how to get a screenshot of the original odds?
I posted this Graphic way back early in the year when there were a limited number of diamonds. It specifically shows Ohtani at .008
Judge was also at .008 with Ortiz and Machado at .004 each to reach that .016% rate

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Why do I have a sneaky feeling that this happened when they started the stub sale?
Keep the 2 gatekeepers marketplace value sky high. Sell stubs 50% off. No one is going to pay cash for enough stubs to buy Judge and/or Ohtani but they might buy enough for a 50 pack. -
Did it change for Ohtani when he went up to a 95 for the odds?
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Here is the issue. I dont think you can change odds, mid game cycle when people are spending money and buying packs based on said odds. But I dont know. They definitely are manipulating things.
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Did it change for Ohtani when he went up to a 95 for the odds?
I don't that is the cause because Judge and Alvarez are both also at .006% odds.
The odds are going to change throughout the year for some of these.
If they have a roster update and add 6 new diamonds and only downgrade 3 diamonds to gold then some odds will be changed among the individual diamonds to maintain that 2% chance of a getting a diamond.
Nobody pays that close of attention to what cards get added or removed from standard packs that could affect odds of individual cards.
Still not a fan of the move though.
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I mean, I wasn’t pulling them anyway. Especially not out of a standard pack.
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Here is the issue. I dont think you can change odds, mid game cycle when people are spending money and buying packs based on said odds. But I dont know. They definitely are manipulating things.
This is what I was thinking, but everything I found just talked a mobile gaming. I did find something that said players must be notified if drop/pull odds change in China or India, maybe South Korea, too. But that doesn't do us any good.
I know what they can't do is list 12.5% odds for pulls out of an Ultra pack then give you a Bunny pack that doesn't even have listed odds andt is worth less then half of a 5 card Ultra pack. That much I was told for a fact and was asked tto send proof of. (Which I had.)
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@KenKen71412_MLBTS interesting. Please let me know the results.
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@Bridge-Piece_XBL FWIW, my Ohtani and 3 x Judge all came from standards.
They have been far, far better for me than BIAH packs despite more than three times the odds.
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@Bridge-Piece_XBL FWIW, my Ohtani and 3 x Judge all came from standards.
They have been far, far better for me than BIAH packs despite more than three times the odds.
I don’t think I’ve ever pulled a top card from a standard. And I’ve never in my years playing pulled THE top card anywhere. I will not play the lottery.