Last year i didn't pack either card.

@KenKen71412_MLBTS said:

@NotesOfJohn_PSN said:

@Bridge-Piece_XBL FWIW, my Ohtani and 3 x Judge all came from standards.

They have been far, far better for me than BIAH packs despite more than three times the odds.

"Not to brag but the 3rd time I won the Powerball, I picked numbers from the alphabet."
Signed, NotesOfJohn.

Just kidding and having some fun. I've been lucky with the Headliners packs, just not recently. Overall I think I've pulled most of the specials out of those.

I don't think I've pulled a headliner all year. I had some decent luck early in the season, but since like May it's been atrocious. I'm debating not even opening my packs anymore.

@KenKen71412_MLBTS said:

@SpawnOfDitka_XBL said:

Here is the issue. I dont think you can change odds, mid game cycle when people are spending money and buying packs based on said odds. But I dont know. They definitely are manipulating things.

This is what I was thinking, but everything I found just talked a mobile gaming. I did find something that said players must be notified if drop/pull odds change in China or India, maybe South Korea, too. But that doesn't do us any good.

I know what they can't do is list 12.5% odds for pulls out of an Ultra pack then give you a Bunny pack that doesn't even have listed odds andt is worth less then half of a 5 card Ultra pack. That much I was told for a fact and was asked tto send proof of. (Which I had.)

I just noticed that Bunny pack is no longer in the ultra packs and is now in the premier pack.

@NotesOfJohn_PSN said:

@Bridge-Piece_XBL FWIW, my Ohtani and 3 x Judge all came from standards.

They have been far, far better for me than BIAH packs despite more than three times the odds.

"Not to brag but the 3rd time I won the Powerball, I picked numbers from the alphabet."
Signed, NotesOfJohn.

Just kidding and having some fun. I've been lucky with the Headliners packs, just not recently. Overall I think I've pulled most of the specials out of those.

@SpawnOfDitka_XBL said:

I told you all they were manipulating odds 3 months ago. And they were to some degree. Youll never convince me otherwise. This proves they can change and manipulate odds whenever they see fit. Some of you argued with me about that also.

You all smack talked me. Called me a tin foil hat wearer. I could tell by my own pack openings they manipulated the s h I t out of them. Not hard to figure out and see.

They probably changed these odds months ago and are just now disclosing it. This company is full of . And absolutely disgusting.

Whats even more bothering is how naive some of you are. Thinking they would not do something like this.

Why do you think there is a thing called streamer luck? All they have to do is add a group to the servers to increase pulls for usernames placed in the group. The whole gaming industry is shady af.

@NotesOfJohn_PSN said:

@Bridge-Piece_XBL FWIW, my Ohtani and 3 x Judge all came from standards.

They have been far, far better for me than BIAH packs despite more than three times the odds.

I don’t think I’ve ever pulled a top card from a standard. And I’ve never in my years playing pulled THE top card anywhere. I will not play the lottery.

They have been far, far better for me than BIAH packs despite more than three times the odds.

@SpawnOfDitka_XBL said:

Here is the issue. I dont think you can change odds, mid game cycle when people are spending money and buying packs based on said odds. But I dont know. They definitely are manipulating things.

This is what I was thinking, but everything I found just talked a mobile gaming. I did find something that said players must be notified if drop/pull odds change in China or India, maybe South Korea, too. But that doesn't do us any good.

I know what they can't do is list 12.5% odds for pulls out of an Ultra pack then give you a Bunny pack that doesn't even have listed odds andt is worth less then half of a 5 card Ultra pack. That much I was told for a fact and was asked tto send proof of. (Which I had.)

@virusts_PSN said:

Did it change for Ohtani when he went up to a 95 for the odds?

I don't that is the cause because Judge and Alvarez are both also at .006% odds.

The odds are going to change throughout the year for some of these.

If they have a roster update and add 6 new diamonds and only downgrade 3 diamonds to gold then some odds will be changed among the individual diamonds to maintain that 2% chance of a getting a diamond.

Nobody pays that close of attention to what cards get added or removed from standard packs that could affect odds of individual cards.

Still not a fan of the move though.

@KenKen71412_MLBTS said:

Regulatory Scrutiny: In the US, the FTC monitors these monetization models; companies that use deceptive practices or fail to disclose the real odds of chance-based items risk severe penalties.

Looks like I'll be updating my complaint from last week.

Does anyone have or can tell me how to get a screenshot of the original odds?

I posted this Graphic way back early in the year when there were a limited number of diamonds. It specifically shows Ohtani at .008

Judge was also at .008 with Ortiz and Machado at .004 each to reach that .016% rate

Looks like I'll be updating my complaint from last week.

Does anyone have or can tell me how to get a screenshot of the original odds?

@x-814-x-MAFIA-x_PSN said:

@mike_ph_PSN said:

@x-814-x-MAFIA-x_PSN Because you can literally look up the odds instead of trying to call me a liar.

Where in my post did I call you a liar?

I just asked if the info you read, and subsequently reposted, was from a reputable source or from one of the "tin hat" conspiracy theorists that post random words because they havent been able to pull Judge or Ohtani.

You asked and then subsequently answered the question on your own. You can play semantics all you want.

Arguments towards me were that the odds were posted so they cannot manipulate them. This proves they can change them anytime they want, and manipulate them.

So now how do we know they didnt manipulate other odds for a period of time and then switched them back? We dont know. Do you trust them now?

@SpawnOfDitka_XBL said:

I told you all they were manipulating odds 3 months ago. You all smack talked me. Called me a tin foil hat wearer. I could tell by my own pack openings they manipulated the s h I t out of them. Not hard to figure out and see.

The difference is that this is verifiable from their own site and documentation.

Your claims, whether they were right or wrong, were anecdotal in nature. Those of us who have been around years have seen such an extreme amount of anecdotal claims stated as facts that we are leery and mistrusting of almost all of them.

If I remember that discussion my argument against the manipulation was the published odds on their website which specifically for these two players had not changed. I think I even did a breakdown with an infographic of the odds.

This was the same exact website that I used to verify that the original poster's claim was true.

You all smack talked me. Called me a tin foil hat wearer. I could tell by my own pack openings they manipulated the s h I t out of them. Not hard to figure out and see.

They probably changed these odds months ago and are just now disclosing it. This company is full of . And absolutely disgusting.

Whats even more bothering is how naive some of you are. Thinking they would not do something like this.