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  • samguenther1987_PSNS Offline
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    @SDS_JoeK_PSN said:

    We don't "manipulate the market" as is implied every so often. I just want to clarify that.

    I can tell you all that the team is working hard to continue to get the bot situation under control so that the marketplace experience is the best it can be.

    As we all know, it's an ever-evolving process.

    Haha, is this satire? The bots have been a issue for years, you have done nothing about them.

    You have impeded and banned us (real people) from the market place though, luckily not myself.... yet.

    So you can understand when i say i have a hard time believing you will do anything about them now.

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  • DoIHearBossMusic_PSND Offline
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    @samguenther1987_PSN Yeah, if it's something that gets them more money I doubt they are putting in too much effort to 'correct' it. They can say anything and spin it any which way they can, and people will oddly believe it all.

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  • LIONED 33_XBLL Offline
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    @SDS_JoeK_PSN So SDS spends months saying nothing, but you'll come out and defend SDS when people accuse them of manipulating the market....so what are you actually doing to fix this issue. Thats all we care about. Crickets by SDS. We are the ones suffering not SDS.

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  • samguenther1987_PSNS Offline
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    @LIONED-33_XBL said:

    @SDS_JoeK_PSN So SDS spends months saying nothing, but you'll come out and defend SDS when people accuse them of manipulating the market....so what are you actually doing to fix this issue. Thats all we care about. Crickets by SDS. We are the ones suffering not SDS.

    And if it's not crickets it's lies. Looking into fixing the market lol thats a good one.

    They aren't and won't do anything about the market, it is what it is. The bots can post 125 items at once and we just have to accept it because SDS is incompetent.

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    @SDS_JoeK_PSN said:

    We don't "manipulate the market" as is implied every so often. I just want to clarify that.

    I can tell you all that the team is working hard to continue to get the bot situation under control so that the marketplace experience is the best it can be.

    As we all know, it's an ever-evolving process.

    Good luck. I feel like I’ve wasted a tremendous amount of time trying to bring some these problems to the “teams” attention and I’m hesitant to spend anymore time talking about things that I think should have been taken care of a long time ago. There was some progress made keeping bots out of the marketplace, but all that was suddenly rolled back, which makes me wonder if we are even talking about the same problems here. Since sds has been pretty much silent since before the all star game, I tried to google some answers to things and came across lots of sites with articles about the game. Some of them are actually pretty insightful. I was surprised to see that a couple of those sites sell stubs for this game… a few even sell the actual player card in the game. Each of these sites had similar info about logging into your account for 10-15 minutes and presto chango, you get what you pay for. Seeing all this actually made me even more confused over why all filters and changes put in place that were blocking bots were rolled back. I don’t think sds is manipulating the market to act in certain ways. But it’s certainly not preventing other parties or influences from manipulating and corrupting the marketplace. It seemingly isnt doing much of anything… Good luck here, I’m really rooting for you guys.

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  • KenKen71412_MLBTSK Offline
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    It's obvious what they're doing. The market is super inflated and what does SDS do? They have a stub sale! They drive market prices even higher.

    That is marketplace manipulation 101. If you needed any more proof, there it is.

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  • KenKen71412_MLBTSK Offline
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    @SDS_JoeK_PSN said:

    We don't "manipulate the market" as is implied every so often. I just want to clarify that.

    I can tell you all that the team is working hard to continue to get the bot situation under control so that the marketplace experience is the best it can be.

    As we all know, it's an ever-evolving process.

    You also said that the people that got Bunny packs instead of Ultra would get the Ultra packs. "That would make the most sense" I believe is how you put it. Well you might want to tell that to Miguel who sent me a 200 word e-mail, that basically said 'f-off, deal with it'.

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    For those that don't know how the bots/stub resellers work. (I've not done it but I know someone that paid for their college books doing it.)

    They will harvest 1000s of cards however they can. (WBC Glitch, Cronus Zen for the high value catds) Resellers then sell them off on the marketplace, often close to quick sell. They will not quick sell them because of the attention that would draw. (Like SDS can't see the 100s of cards being sold for less then quick sell after tax.)
    When the player buys stubs from one of the websites it's individual people selling them through that site. They take control of your account, go on the marketplace, take a card that has no buy or sell offers, they will then 'buy' the card with your account and turn around and resell it to their account for ever how many stubs are needed. That is why all these sites offer around 10% free, because it's never a exact number.

    With that said... it's an easy fix. Find the 'players' selling 100s of cards at a loss and that would cut down the vast majority. There SDS, problem solved, I'll wait on my check.

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  • KenKen71412_MLBTSK Offline
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    Last post... If you ever look through sell price history or recent sells and see a card that has been a certain amount for a long time then it spikes by 50k plus that is usually a reseller at work.
    SDS could fix this, they have the tools. They just do not want to. Yes the stub resellers hurt them, but the people buying 90% off stubs are not the same people that would buy them at full price to start with. So it's a wash for SDS, they might lose a little on the stubs but it keeps the marketplace where they want it.

    Another example of marketplace manipulation, just with outside help.

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  • whitejw98_MLBTSW Offline
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    The really irritating thing about the bots is that it seems like they're designed not to help the person using them buy the cards they want, but just to prevent everyone else from being able to buy anything.

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