How is the Community Market feeling? (2)
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Oopsie replied to wrong post
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@PLY24MKR_XBL Impossible. The bots are everywhere.
Devastatingly, the market margins are the worst they’ve been all week.
At this point @manu__sds_mlbts please just disable the market on the app entirely or restrict it even more. Also appreciate the work you’re doing. Don’t give up! Give the bots the grief they deserve
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@manu__sds_mlbts we really appreciate the hard work you're putting in. I think it might be time to take the market off the app, I think that might alleviate the aggravation for everyone, including yourself.
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Hey everyone & @manu__sds_mlbts ,
I was wondering what could be done about this kind of botting (if it is botting? If not it’s super weird) where you see hundreds of buy now listings at a single value, which makes me think it is a bot or hacked account that is able to bypass the 20 card limit? I’m attaching photos of a few for reference now. strange listings
Thanks all!
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@whyme76_XBL ive seen it and then be moved entirely when I when up it. Something is going on with the silver bats too. There is over 100 sell orders on each bat. I was selling them yesterday when i paxked them in the 40's.
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Except that it stops bots and slows down flippers. I flip too but it drives me insane when people post 20 plus orders undercutting the market and destroying margins. Bottom line making it more tedious improves margins drastically for those willing to put in the work on the console. The app is being abused by bots.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN I've often wondered if that's the "Haves" making sure the "Have-Nots" can not. And that's a separate issue from the bots too. Now, do I think it's all the whales that would do this? Heck no, I think the majority of people are cool about most things...but do I think there's a rotten few? 100%
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Oh for sure. To each their own but I’ve never flipped volume. I buy one of each card with a good margin and then sell it for profit across a wide range of cards and just repeat the cycle. That way I don’t get burned if a card tanks and I don’t disrupt the market.
For that reason I don’t need the app but those that mass flip in quantities of 20 or more that massively undercut the market and/or those using bots need the app and PC to monopolize the game.
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There’s heavy bot activity atm. Pretty much every item I just interacted with the last 20 min has bots actively outbidding by 1.
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@Oliver230230230_PSN Best guess is that they lifted the restrictions, so the bots are back to take over the market.
There are still bots when the restrictions are enabled, but they are not as aggressive as they are now, nor are the margins as depressed.
Psy
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The restrictions at least level the playing field. It’s been great to see an offensive against the bots. I think restrictions must be kept in place until another method is found to prevent them. The aggressive campaign against them has been effective and should continue.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN Yeah I don’t flip in volume either. I just do one card at a time, one order at a time. 20 at a time is excessive to me
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Howdy,
thank you for keeping the conversation alive and interesting. I do not see anyone reporting pain, which means I did not break anything in the last 24h! The bug which was randomly throwing account restricted has been officially eliminated and we can continue our journey...
The restrictions are in still in place, and they have eliminated a huge amount of ugly traffic. The ugly accounts noticed and adapted, but we have new and more sophisticated strategies coming every day, stay tuned!
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The app is still only showing 25 of the items I have buy/sell orders on. It used to load them all if I kept scrolling down
