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  • Bridge Piece_XBLB Offline
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    @Dolenz_PSN I mean that’s true. I don’t know their reason for not doing it. Could also be the loud mouth influencers in the community who did it as well. And SDS just wants to leave it alone rather than stir anything up? Idk. I don’t agree with them doing nothing but I’m sure there’s a reason.

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    @Player99_MLBTS said:

    @Ditka06-_MLBTS said:

    @Player99_MLBTS ok sds employee number 99

    I work for Arby's fool. Best restaurant ever.

    I went to biggest Arby's which is south of Richmond Va few weeks back, pretty impressive. I got a rotisserie chicken because I'm on a high protein diet because I lift and it was really good.

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    @Onix_Savage22_PSN said:

    @Ditka06-_MLBTS better then my old job before my current warehouse job and the construction company I used to work at a dirty old little ceasars. Let’s just say was never going hungry. Couldn’t say no to a 15% discount on a 7$ pizza. 😂

    Who could?

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  • Onix_Savage22_PSNO Offline
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    @DrBear100_PSN hey man not great but as a high school/ just out of high school kid at the time it was clutch.

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    @bridge-piece_xbl

    I agree with your position on “the glitch”. Like @dolenz_psn said, SDS surely knows who and how many took advantage of it. Like you, I don’t understand why they haven’t done something about it. There’s been enough “internet chatter” about it. It calls into question their integrity. IMO.

    The best explanation I heard about why nothing has been done was from a podcast I listened to. (TBR). The guy said that maybe SDS thinks that since the market dipped severely right after, everyone had a chance to buy cheap and finish collections and/or invest. So, all is good (??) I don’t know…

    I’d like SDS to identify the folks who abused the glitch. (I’ll let SDS define - “abuse”). Ban them for the rest of the year. Publish their IDs. Make a huge “stink” about it. Then tell the community that they can track this kind of stuff. And, going forward, there is zero tolerance. Start restoring their gaming company integrity. I know I’m keeping an eye on it.

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    @capardo_XBL I’m pretty sure if they actually did something TBR would be like first 10 on the list lmao

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  • capardo_XBLC Offline
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    @on_a_power_trip_psn

    Ha! You might be right!!

    I don’t watch many YouTube type stuff, but I did see one guy explaining “the glitch” while actually doing it multiple times in his video. I sat there watching with my mouth wide open in shock. So so brazen.

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  • ryguy034753_XBLR Offline
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    @Bridge-Piece_XBL just stop coming to the forum. Easy.

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  • victoryphoenix_PSNV Offline
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    The Constant negativity is caused by SDS and their indifference to the people who play the game, especially as it feels like offline players.

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    @victoryphoenix_PSN this community has always been toxic. Offline been getting treated like kings for years.

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    @ApolloZ_99_MLBTS this years game is a slap in the face to all offline players, and SDS doesn't care how they anger offline players as their business model is to force everyone online. But online is where the true toxicity is boiling over.

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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL said:

    This OP is laughable. Expecting a corporation to meet reasonable standards is simply reasonable expectations. You buy a car and you expect it to start in the morning, get you to work, start in the late afternoon, and return you home. If the car fails to meet those reasonable expectations, then criticism follows.

    MLB 26 was released with bugs so profound that batters hit foul balls over the dugouts that were ruled homers! I still see as recently as today, new posts on MLB The Show themed web forums where video shows catches made for a final out of an inning being overruled in the game score with the game code inexplicably awarding the runs like a homer was hit vice being caught for the final out as was actually played out on screen.

    These are deep and profound bugs in game code. Many of them have remained unfixed, including menus that lag several seconds from control pad input to finally carrying out the ordered action.

    If you posted the OP for attention, then congrats. But, if you value your basic self-respect you really should have thought differently about writing it. Less than half the MLB 26 bugs that were discovered by the paying customers the first week of release remain unfixed. And again, that includes basic menus that are horribly bugged up.

    And I could fill paragraphs with bugs that have remained in the game for several years despite hundreds of bug reports being sent to SDS over these years.

    And you blame the customers, vice the company that put this garbage out there. OK, you play that way in real life and see where it leads you!

    Yeah, I believe it's both though. This is the worst product I've ever seen them put out but I'm sick of hearing people cry about switch hitters because they can't spam sinkers inside followed by dotted sliders low and away.

    I wish people would stick to things like if I pick the pitch allocated to circle and try to pick off a runner on first base it just quick pitches to home. Same with triangle pitch for second. They're literally breaking the game. Singles that should be doubles because battery are catastrophically slow out of the box. I'm watching my son play an old mlb the show on the switch and I'm literally thinking to myself [censored] that's playing better than mine. That's a legit problem. They have done some decent things ok maybe two. I actually like the new strike zone and I like being able to mass collect cards and prevent cards from being collected which I'm surprised they didn't screw that up more. Also, eff cheaters, exploiters and companies that don't uphold their TOS. I grinded like crazy to finish the live series and get miggy just to see tons of people to get it from a glitch with thousands of packs. The lack of response is frustrating.

    Also, there's definitely less content even if it is grindy offline stuff. It was casual xp and cards to get when I'm exhausted after work and my eyes are too tired to play online.

    tldr; I mostly agree minus crying over meta switch hitters [censored].

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    @ryguy034753_XBL not just talking about the forum

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  • ApolloZ_99_MLBTSA Offline
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    @victoryphoenix_PSN lemme ask you something. How can there be a toxic offline player? Yall act like every online game someone is calling you slurs and bunt dancing every at bat. If you want to say they “force “ you to play online that’s your own prerogative. It’s not like they don’t make online players play offline modes .

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    @Onix_Savage22_PSN said:

    @Dolenz_PSN I had probably the most unenjoyable hour and a half on ranked earlier but I’m just gonna let it run off my back. I played 4 1000 icons in a row trying to make an early ranked run and let’s just say it resulted in my new 97 leiters era getting destroyed. But oh well I was playing the closest thing to the sport I love I can atm and was trying my best to make light out of it.

    My whole WC was like that. I did win a few games but none of the games were enjoyable. I truly wish I knew the secret to how legend pitches (when watching streamers) are slower than my all star. I can easily see the pitches when watching but can't see or read anything at home. Been baffling me for years. If I knew a PS5 Pro was the answer I would buy one in a heartbeat. What I'm worried about is buying one and getting the same result. I tweaked some settings last night to try in the event. Luckily played Miz back to back home and away and both felt like trying to hit 120 mph wiffle balls.

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  • parky_8_PSNP Offline
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    @Onix_Savage22_PSN man I feel this, I played baseball for years, started a family and this is my only connection to baseball other than watching MLB games. Been buying this game for years, and will likely continue because the core of it, the game is still fun. It's like most video games now, they cater to the top 1% and everyone else just has to enjoy what is given to them. Taking feedback from the guys, and gals, who live on the game and make money from it, doesn't make sense to me. These are the sort of people who will move onto another game if there's a higher dollar value attached to it but the main core group will likely continue playing MLB without compensation attached to it.

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    @Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

    @Dolenz_PSN I agree with that. But then as I thought about it more - tens of thousands of people did it. They probably can’t even track it correctly + can’t ban them all. Though I think they should, personally.

    Goes with my entire point about the community. People cheating and taking advantage of glitches is childish behavior and it’s putting SDS in a hard place.

    Oh, they can track it. I went back and looked at some of the games I played against a suspect player. On 5/31 he had around 50 games against CPU that lasted like a minute each.

    I think expecting them to do anything at this point against cheaters and glitchers is futile.

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  • Sarge1387_PSNS Online
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    I'm gonna try to address this as respectfully as I can because that's how I mean it. I'm not going to come here calling you a shill or anything of that ilk.

    @Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

    the community is becoming one of the biggest problems with MLB The Show.

    Yes and no- On one hand they do more or less an adequate job of communicating with the community when they want to and we need to accept that they could be doing their best, and sure that's to be applauded at times. On the other hand, consumers are 100% absolutely allowed to be unhappy with what's become a lacklustre product over the past 3 years. Is there a ton of negativity? Yes. Is most of it deserved? I lean towards yes.

    @Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

    We have toxic content creators who complain about almost everything, encourage people to exploit glitches

    This is the bigger problem than the community at large, IMHO. Because unfortunately, these guys (streamers) are the minority that SDS listens to. It's not unique to SDS either, EA has the same problem with it's sports franchises as well.

    @Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

    We have people harassing SDS employees on X

    This I have a real problem with- this is unacceptable, but doesn't represent the community as a whole. At least I really hope it doesn't.

    @Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

    leaking content and ruining surprises

    I don't see this as a bad thing, honestly. Mildly irritating? Sure. But spoilers have been a thing forever in gaming.

    @Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

    And I doubt most of the loudest people complaining have any idea what actually goes into building, launching, maintaining, and fixing a video game at this scale

    The average gamer? Probably not, but some of us do understand coding etc and know that certain things really can be fixed fairly simply if they just cared enough to do it- and I think this is where the frustration comes from.

    @Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

    there’s a big difference between criticism and acting like every issue is some personal attack on the player base.

    Absolutely...but there's an issue there: There's a handful of people, whether it's here or the reddit sub that attempt to gaslight posters by claiming that. Basically, they'll attack the poster claiming it's not a valid complaint and that they're just p!ssy about XYZ. There are a lot of posts with very valid criticisms here, and there are that are truly just nitpicky whiny things.

    @Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

    The reality is, hundreds of thousands (maybe millions?) of people are playing this game and enjoying it.

    Absolutely, I agree. Maybe not millions, but I agree.

    @Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

    It’s still a great game

    No, it's really not (this year, at least). This really is a pretty bad release.

    @Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

    But the loudest parts of the community make it feel like everything is terrible all the time.

    I agree, but much of that is warranted and stems from the lack of communication/acknowledgment from SDS. There's little things SDS likes to "sneak" in without mentioning it. Like cutting in game XP in a half a few years ago- they basically ignored everyone asking if something was wrong, or if it was intentional. This year, the one that really stirred the hornet's nest with a good portion of the player base was the implementation of the card cap. That was a big one for me because I go NMS most years outside of a $10 stub purchase to help kick off my initial investments. They 100% should have mentioned that pre release, but it was deliberately withheld because I think they knew it would affect their sales.

    @Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

    This community could be so much better than it is right now.

    I agree...but so could the game. Two wrongs don't make a right, but SDS needs to make a better product to silence the masses. There will always be people who find things to complain about, always have been and always will be. But creating a better product, would basically solve a good portion of the community issues.

    Hell, I'd be on board with them skipping a year if it meant they'd work on things and put some more polish and shine into it from the ground up, improve the stadium creator, work on content, cleaner animations, weed out all the small things that can add up like Constructicons into one big issue (shimmering jersey glitch in the Paul O'Niell moment, for example), outfielders being able to cleanly field a ball after it hits a wall 40 feet past the fence, yet somehow stays in play- things like that need to be weeded out.

    Hope this wasn't overly critical of your post, just trying to add counterpoints to the discussion

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  • DemIsE4_XBLD Online
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    @Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

    The community is making this game harder to enjoy

    I know this probably won’t be a popular post, but I feel like the community is becoming one of the biggest problems with MLB The Show.

    The game is not perfect. Nobody is saying it is. There are issues, there are frustrating moments, and there are absolutely things SDS can improve. But the way some people talk about this game, and the way some creators lead the conversation around it, has gotten ridiculous.

    We have toxic content creators who complain about almost everything, encourage people to exploit glitches, and then act like the game is completely broken because they’re mad about whatever the latest thing is. We have people harassing SDS employees on X, flooding every post with negativity, leaking content and ruining surprises, and just generally making the entire environment miserable.

    And I doubt most of the loudest people complaining have any idea what actually goes into building, launching, maintaining, and fixing a video game at this scale. That doesn’t mean SDS is above criticism, but there’s a big difference between criticism and acting like every issue is some personal attack on the player base.

    The reality is, hundreds of thousands (maybe millions?) of people are playing this game and enjoying it. Most people just log on, play some baseball, build their team, and have fun. It’s still a great game with an awesome mode in Diamond Dynasty. But the loudest parts of the community make it feel like everything is terrible all the time.

    I actually think SDS deserves some credit for continuing to show up, communicate, release content, and try to improve things, knowing full well that no matter what they do, people are going to attack them.

    It’s just a shame. I love baseball, I love this game, and I wish the community around it was better. Criticism is fine. Feedback is fine. But the constant negativity, harassment, glitch exploiting, cheating, and leaking is brutal.

    I know I’ll probably get [censored] for this post, but I genuinely feel for SDS. This community could be so much better than it is right now.

    Don't blame the community for the abyssmal state of this game. This was just a [censored] poor effort from this company.

    PCI shrinkage
    Switch hitter meta
    Collections were you get 5 cards for free and have to buy or get rare round for other 30
    Cheaters
    Glitchers
    Sure I'm missing a ton of things

    SDS found that they could make more money leaving a glitch and providing switch hitters. Combatting cheaters and people that use glitches take resources (money mainly) and this greedy company isn't going to do anything about it. It is the wild west on this game.

    You want something positive? It is a baseball game and the only real baseball game out. They are 100% taking advantage of this. Do you think if there was a major competitor, they would be addressing these things? Likely. This company gets all [censored] hurt about the negative. You want to change the narrative? Fix your [censored] game, ban the cheaters and glitchers, quit heading the route of Madden (you are straight ignorant if you can't see the direction this game is headed). Really not that hard, just takes some effort on your part. Sorry, haven't seen any.

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