What is this cheating meta?
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@DemIsE4_XBL
Streamers cant cheat because they are recording every single game they play. The cheats show up on your screen, there is no way to hide it. I have also played many streamers and many cheaters over the past year, and there is a pretty clear difference. As for why streamers have so many stubs, its because they spend money on the game.They won't let me post it on here but you are most definitely wrong.
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@mhenry23_PSN wow, treating a forums mod like [censored]....lets see how that works out for you.
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@TheRupster12_XBL do all streamers cheat no. Because you are right, their livelihood depends on the game. Getting caught cheating would be the end of them. But i guarantee you there are cheaters in the streaming community.
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Just played br. Guy was smart in some ways. Played the first inning and couldn’t hit. Second inning a pause, then hits three straight p/p homers. I bring in Rogers, pause. No longer can hit. But his pitchers were dotting the corners all game. I sent him a message and said don’t be so obvious when you turn off your script. He responded by telling me I’m just jealous. I responded by reporting him. Clowns are real. They don’t have to be scary. Report them.
Doesn't do anything. I have reported a few people and think I am banned from reporting. They will just brush it under the table and think it will go away. It will get worse when people realize there are no repercussions.
That's why I took SDS_Joe to task a bit. SDS talks a tough game with regard to cheaters, but they do very, very little to counter it. Even when an easy method to keep cheaters from hurting the game is handed to SDS on a silver platter, the reality is they refuse to spend any money and time to fashion systems to prevent that cheating from happening.
For the record, we all need to know that Joe is merely a messenger. He doesn't lift a finger here unless his supervisors authorize him, and there are times when the same supervisors tell him to ignore people or even sub-forums.
SDS is all about money. If they calculate the effort doesn't make them significant money, they don't care to do it. Telling customers that SDS is aware of cheating is very cheap to do. Doing anything about it, other than saying they are doing something about it, costs money and requires a foreseen profit motive.
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@PriorFir4383355_XBL well plenty of games have failed because cheating became so prevalent. Look at texas chainsaw massacre a few years ago. Game was dead within months because cheaters took it over. Cheaters can absolutely destroy a game and make regular players never return if it gets prevalent enough. That is money.
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@PriorFir4383355_XBL well plenty of games have failed because cheating became so prevalent. Look at texas chainsaw massacre a few years ago. Game was dead within months because cheaters took it over. Cheaters can absolutely destroy a game and make regular players never return if it gets prevalent enough. That is money.
I agree. The trick is to convince the company that makes the game of that reality before the point of no return is reached. But, to do that, you have to be dealing with a company whose leadership genuinely seeks out customer feedback and actually reacts to it with integrity, honesty, and sincerity.
Anyone here believe those standards apply to SDS?
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@mhenry23_PSN -- For the team's part, there is a lot of work behind the scenes to improve the situation, so please don't mistake judicious communication with inaction.
For the community's part, talking about specific methods of how these things work only serves to make the problem worse. There's no upside. That's why the forum rules say members may not "Discuss specific cheating methods in detail." Those who do may be subject to suspension.
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@SDS_JoeK_PSN my apologies will not do this again I never thought that talking about it could make the problem worse. Appreciate all the work u guys do.
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@Onix_Savage22_PSN -- No worries! Just don't want to make it any easier on this people than need be!

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@PUNIKI_SAMURAI_PSN crazy how open these people are and seemingly no repercussions. I reported a Facebook group openly selling 12-0 br runs and 6-0 WC runs amongst other things like Stubbs and it’s been like a month. Still fully operational. Clearly you can’t guarantee a 6-0 WC run in legend/immortal without cheating the people who end up loosing.
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@TheJeweledLotus_PSN -- without getting too deep into it, suffice it to say that this is a complex issue for many reasons and there aren't really any "easy fixes".
That said, yes, I agree with you. The brazenness can be pretty shocking.
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@SDS_JoeK_PSN I mean the people are offering services from their personal Facebook accounts with all their info. Why can’t you bring some charge of fraud on the perpetrators that way they know there is a consequence and maybe the word gets out and less of this happens
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I got accused of using something called a Zen last Friday. I’m sure some people are cheating but I was just getting lucky. If I give up three straight perfects I just quit. Either the guy is cheating or just way above my talent level or just getting lucky at my expense. Either way I just move on.
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Please do t discuss cheats on the forums. Asking what cheats and some are explaining it is a TOS violation
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@Jacky-Chan1_XBL your worries about community members trying to help stop it? As a tos violation?? Everyone knows what this [censored] is it’s literally everywhere. Openly promoted. It’s reached critical mass something needs to be done, attention needs to be drawn. No one in here is doing anything wrong doing their best to tip toe around the facts but still bring awareness. You know who should be banned, the cheaters , and those protecting them. They might need to hire an outside company to solve it if they can’t. Just shhh don’t talk about it is CLEARLY not working, these people fear no repurcissions frauding a major game developer that is licensed by the mlb.