The Show 25 Will Not Be Current Gen Only
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So why can't they make the game for PS4 or XBox One if it's made for the inferior Nintendo Switch??? It pisses me off that they still make it for the Nintendo Switch but not PS4 considering I'm still using a PS4 and MLB the Show is the only game I buy yearly. I sure don't feel like shelling out $500 (at minimum) for a base version of a ps5 and the game itself (that doesn't even include PS Plus), especially when the game hasn't changed substantially in many many years. Thanks a lot SDS.
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@Brando-TheGreat1_PSN said in The Show 25 Will Not Be Current Gen Only:
So why can't they make the game for PS4 or XBox One if it's made for the inferior Nintendo Switch??? It pisses me off that they still make it for the Nintendo Switch but not PS4 considering I'm still using a PS4 and MLB the Show is the only game I buy yearly. I sure don't feel like shelling out $500 (at minimum) for a base version of a ps5 and the game itself (that doesn't even include PS Plus), especially when the game hasn't changed substantially in many many years. Thanks a lot SDS.
If companies did stuff based on whether or not people "felt like" spending money, we'd have no advancements in technology.....ever.
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I'm sure the plan was to have it on current gen only and mlb stepped in and said it's too long to wait on switch 2s release make it on regular switch also.
Next year it will only be switch 2. -
Coding each version of a game to work on additional platforms is a serious cost factor. And the post release support teams needed for each version likewise cost significant money. It is unrealistic to expect a game title to continue supporting legacy platforms. PS4 was launched back in late 2013. Frankly, it is time for folks to move up to the modern consoles.
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And this is the exact problem with today’s gaming. Spend 500 for base os5, 700 for a ps5 pro, and this game still runs on series s and switch smfh.
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@REDRZA_MLBTS said in The Show 25 Will Not Be Current Gen Only:
And this is the exact problem with today’s gaming. Spend 500 for base os5, 700 for a ps5 pro, and this game still runs on series s and switch smfh.
FYI series s is a Next Gen console
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@sbchamps17_NSW said in The Show 25 Will Not Be Current Gen Only:
@REDRZA_MLBTS said in The Show 25 Will Not Be Current Gen Only:
And this is the exact problem with today’s gaming. Spend 500 for base os5, 700 for a ps5 pro, and this game still runs on series s and switch smfh.
FYI series s is a Next Gen console
So is the Switch. Well, not Next Gen, there are no Nex Gen consoles right now, everything is current gen. The complaint is the game is still throttled back for the less competitive consoles.
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Which also means a bunch of kids pitching 1.5 secs. between pitches as if you're playing Sonic The Hedgehog. Build in true "balks" and all that [censored] stops.
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Look I get trying to throw timing off...but quick pitching to the point of being an obvious balk is insane online, especially when you get a runner or two on.
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I wouldn’t consider 5 year old hardware “next” gen. We all know the Series S and MS’s mandate for all games to run on it, holding back the traditional “powerful” (at launch) consoles.
My point was more the switch. If you make the game playable on switch hardware a toaster could run it.
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Thank you, that was the point I was making. At the very least the game should have been built ground up for PS5 and SX. That’s why we don’t see leaps on any particular area of the game. It’s not just the show (my favorite sports franchise by far), but across all games and genres.
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@REDRZA_MLBTS building an annualised game from the ground up is a risk; you have to strip it right back and not everything makes it back in, at least not in the first few iterations.
Look at what happened to the commentary starting from TS22. We’re still only about 1/4 of the way towards the variety of lines there was in the previous 10 years, with the exception of the dynamic stats commentary of Singo’s.
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Agree wholeheartedly. But multi billion dollar companies can afford to have a smaller team working behind the scenes to really update the game and all its engines and mechanics, while pumping out the same ol [censored].
It all is just greed. Adding “sets” to DD to where you can’t use cards/players you can’t use but for the set you purchased then for and one more?
It’s not just SDS, it’s EA and 2k too. They should have engineers hired working behind the scenes to make these games take a more noticeable leap every few years, and at the very least new generations of Hardware.
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@REDRZA_MLBTS I agree with you there - if user experience was the #1 goal then no doubt that's what would be happening -- they would pull out all stops to make the game the best it can be.
As you've alluded to, unfortunately the #1 goal is profit. The reality is that the changes that would significantly enhance the user experience would not result in an increase in profit. Therefore we get incremental improvements and headline features that are not built upon in the next year (specifically leagues and stadium creator).
It's not the fault of the devs. I've no doubt they want to make the game the best it can be. Their passion is evident. It's awesome hearing people like Chris and Kirby and Luis talk about the game on the streams. But at the end of the day they aren't the ones in charge of what gets prioritised. They have to answer to ownership (and God).
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@PriorFir4383355_XBL said in The Show 25 Will Not Be Current Gen Only:
Taken all the way to ultimate expression, there is no reason why a software company cannot code up two entirely different versions of the game, or for that matter multiple different versions. Other than the basic concept of how the game executes, there can be little to no similarity beyond that.
[blah blah blah]
So, if I get what you're saying, they can code for each separate system so there is no difference. My question is, does coding for more systems or a lesser system take up more or time and money from a small developer like SDS? Assuming code/engines for 9th gen systems is more similar than gen 7.5 and gen 9, does that make us living in 2025 lose out on upgrades and features, to console owners that still use a console that would have been the bees knees in 2013?
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Of course it all factors. That wasn't my point. People are making false statements that this game cannot leverage the full capabilities of the better consoles due to needing to make a version for the older consoles. That simply isn't true.
Can the company choose to degrade a game to save costs? Of course, but that's a different analysis.
Your "blah, blah, blah" portion cements the basic problem. The reason sports games won't look like the best computer generated cartoons and movie CGI is due to the added requirement to code the physics. When your only goal is to make it look real, you can devote all of the computers' resources to simple graphic rendering.
Video sports games in particular have to model physics in complex ways that if not done properly will render the game a running joke. What I did was explain the science behind the games to explain why I say the truth. The biggest single reason MLB The Show doesn't use photorealistic graphics is because that alone would hog up so much of the consoles' performance level, that there wouldn't be sufficient code time to play out the physics of the underlying game.
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Is it on Xbox one and ps4?
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@Jacky-Chan1_XBL said in The Show 25 Will Not Be Current Gen Only:
Is it on Xbox one and ps4?
No only PS5, Xbox series X and S and Nintendo Switch, and not on gamepass anymore
