Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?
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Yeah it kind of seems like low power/high contact guys like tony Gwynn that were very effective last year are almost useless this year.
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I loaded up 19 last night and played a ranked game on there. I had 18 runs, my highest ever online and my opponent had 13. Talk about a hit fest.
I haven’t hit like that once in 20 online. Not sure if I should complain or be happy it’s not a constant slug fest -
@xIAmJumpMan23x said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
@turtleopolis said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
Comparing contact hitters to 18 is such an exaggeration. Just because they aren’t the best option doesn’t mean they’re useless.
I don't think contact hitters are useless in 20; Iove having Xavier Edwards at the top of my lineup. But power is so OP that people are choosing not to use them. I mean, why would you want a singles and doubles guy when you can just put in another power hitter with an OPS over 1.00?
Honestly, I should probably sub out Edwards for a guy with more pop but I actually enjoy hitting over .300 with a guy with 95+ speed. I like playing with him, even if it's unfortunately not the best strategy this year.
Xavier Edwards has a .300 average 40 SB and 3 homers in 400 at bats. He’s a monster!! Best contact guy in game and they do matter but the HR are way too frequent.
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@allmustfall16 said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
Hitting seems fine. I’m scoring a bunch on HOF.
Gallo is impossible to pitch to, even on HOF.
No he is not, Pitch Fast balls just outside middle or top of zone, and low outside off speed. I Have had a lot of success getting Gallo out. Hits alot of ground outs against me especially when I need a double play, I have only made it up to PR. I struggle against guys That can hit like Freeman I do not seem to be able to get him.
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To combat the HR I play in bigger parks, Have good speed in the OF with decent Defense. Contact guys matter and I been able to hit triples with McCovey who speed is 34. I was hitting over 300 with Roberts before I got Sandberg. I get a lot of singles and doubles with Bregman
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In higher divisions there is a lot of small ball, I scored 6 last game with only one hr. Under 700 is a homerun feat non stop and that’s why it took me so long to get out of the 600’s
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Also bombs are majestic
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Anyone who think this game is skill based is smoking some really good herb. This game is a random series of algorithims. I’ve had FLAIL swingers hit meatballs for homers and I line out on a variety of good contact for all 9 outs of a game. And this happens OFTEN. So I don’t know what game ppl are playing but This game does not determine skill. It’s random.
If someone flails strikes out 6 times and then gets a mistake for a homer and the opponent gets two perfect perfect outs and a good squared out after working two walks. What exact skill could have been used to change that outcome????
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@xIAmJumpMan23x said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
Honestly what percentage of runs are via the HR? 90%? It's gotta be close.
At this point everyone has already stacked their lineup with all power hitters. Combine that with the fact we have no control over pitches and that it seems swinging early or only making "ok" contact isn't deterring the HRs and basically you've got a game where anybody can hit a HR on any pitch with any decent swing.
People are saying there's a skill gap? I don't see it as much. As long as you've got a good enough internet connection or are playing on a screen with a good enough response time that you can catch up to fastballs, the game just becomes who gets the RNG to give them the most solo HRs
I’ll agree about the lack of hit variety, but you still need to put a good swing to get a HR; bad players don’t hit them much.
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@yankblan said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
@xIAmJumpMan23x said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
Honestly what percentage of runs are via the HR? 90%? It's gotta be close.
At this point everyone has already stacked their lineup with all power hitters. Combine that with the fact we have no control over pitches and that it seems swinging early or only making "ok" contact isn't deterring the HRs and basically you've got a game where anybody can hit a HR on any pitch with any decent swing.
People are saying there's a skill gap? I don't see it as much. As long as you've got a good enough internet connection or are playing on a screen with a good enough response time that you can catch up to fastballs, the game just becomes who gets the RNG to give them the most solo HRs
I’ll agree about the lack of hit variety, but you still need to put a good swing to get a HR; bad players don’t hit them much.
They hit them all the time. Because the WORST players that literally swing at every single pitch ALWAYS and I mean Always get at least 1-3 meat balls directly down the middle and if you are swing Center at every pitch guess where that is going?
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@A_PerfectGame said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
Anyone who think this game is skill based is smoking some really good herb. This game is a random series of algorithims. I’ve had FLAIL swingers hit meatballs for homers and I line out on a variety of good contact for all 9 outs of a game. And this happens OFTEN. So I don’t know what game ppl are playing but This game does not determine skill. It’s random.
If someone flails strikes out 6 times and then gets a mistake for a homer and the opponent gets two perfect perfect outs and a good squared out after working two walks. What exact skill could have been used to change that outcome????
You answered yourself right there: a mistake down the middle should be a higher reward than a squared up curve at the shoes; I know they’re easier to time but people even with great pci placement shouldn’t mash on pitches at their shoulders or shoe tops because they can, it’s physically improbable and should be rare occurrences.
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@A_PerfectGame said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
@yankblan said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
@xIAmJumpMan23x said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
Honestly what percentage of runs are via the HR? 90%? It's gotta be close.
At this point everyone has already stacked their lineup with all power hitters. Combine that with the fact we have no control over pitches and that it seems swinging early or only making "ok" contact isn't deterring the HRs and basically you've got a game where anybody can hit a HR on any pitch with any decent swing.
People are saying there's a skill gap? I don't see it as much. As long as you've got a good enough internet connection or are playing on a screen with a good enough response time that you can catch up to fastballs, the game just becomes who gets the RNG to give them the most solo HRs
I’ll agree about the lack of hit variety, but you still need to put a good swing to get a HR; bad players don’t hit them much.
They hit them all the time. Because the WORST players that literally swing at every single pitch ALWAYS and I mean Always get at least 1-3 meat balls directly down the middle and if you are swing Center at every pitch guess where that is going?
Just saw your handle, forgot you were one of « those », my bad. Moving along
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I changed my TV mode to "game" about two days ago and I've been having much better hitting results, likely better pitching results as well, but I haven't personally been able to notice the benefits of game mode on pitching. I'm wondering if using contact swing with select hitters when down 0-2 or 1-2 in the count would lead to more manufactured offense, instead of relying on home runs. When your lineup is filled with power hitters, using contact swing is probably the last thing on most players' minds. One idea I just had: make a separate squad just for experimenting with contact swing against the CPU.
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@MaxHarvest said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
In higher divisions there is a lot of small ball, I scored 6 last game with only one hr. Under 700 is a homerun feat non stop and that’s why it took me so long to get out of the 600’s
I played a RS game on HoF last night. I lost 5-3 and 7 out of the 8 runs were scored via HR including my opponent hitting an "early" swing HR in the 10th to tie the game
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Lol yeah I literally just play hr derby half the time I lost to an all bronze squad and if I'm really that bad I should just stay off
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@dbarmonstar said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
@allmustfall16 said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
Hitting seems fine. I’m scoring a bunch on HOF.
Gallo is impossible to pitch to, even on HOF.
No he is not, Pitch Fast balls just outside middle or top of zone, and low outside off speed. I Have had a lot of success getting Gallo out. Hits alot of ground outs against me especially when I need a double play, I have only made it up to PR. I struggle against guys That can hit like Freeman I do not seem to be able to get him.
I seriously mean no offense by this, but while that may work in PR, it won't work in the higher levels. Guys aren't going to chase pitches out of the zone and get themselves out, especially with how tight the strike zone is this year. And on top of that, I've lost count of the number of times I've thrown low-outside offspeed pitches to high power guys and just given up early swing HRs
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@yankblan said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
@xIAmJumpMan23x said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
Honestly what percentage of runs are via the HR? 90%? It's gotta be close.
At this point everyone has already stacked their lineup with all power hitters. Combine that with the fact we have no control over pitches and that it seems swinging early or only making "ok" contact isn't deterring the HRs and basically you've got a game where anybody can hit a HR on any pitch with any decent swing.
People are saying there's a skill gap? I don't see it as much. As long as you've got a good enough internet connection or are playing on a screen with a good enough response time that you can catch up to fastballs, the game just becomes who gets the RNG to give them the most solo HRs
I’ll agree about the lack of hit variety, but you still need to put a good swing to get a HR; bad players don’t hit them much.
I have up a HR on a very early/ok swing the other day. I don't think that's a good swing lol
I've also hit HRs on swings where the ball wasn't even in the inner PCI and I'll he the first to admit that it shouldn't have been a HR
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Sounds like some people need to center swing more often and stop slamming their pci.
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@A_PerfectGame said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
@yankblan said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
@xIAmJumpMan23x said in Are we just playing HR Derby at this point?:
Honestly what percentage of runs are via the HR? 90%? It's gotta be close.
At this point everyone has already stacked their lineup with all power hitters. Combine that with the fact we have no control over pitches and that it seems swinging early or only making "ok" contact isn't deterring the HRs and basically you've got a game where anybody can hit a HR on any pitch with any decent swing.
People are saying there's a skill gap? I don't see it as much. As long as you've got a good enough internet connection or are playing on a screen with a good enough response time that you can catch up to fastballs, the game just becomes who gets the RNG to give them the most solo HRs
I’ll agree about the lack of hit variety, but you still need to put a good swing to get a HR; bad players don’t hit them much.
They hit them all the time. Because the WORST players that literally swing at every single pitch ALWAYS and I mean Always get at least 1-3 meat balls directly down the middle and if you are swing Center at every pitch guess where that is going?
Yep. Pitching by far the worst thing in this game. Still can't play RS because of it. Events are difficult but don't give a $h!+ about my record in that. Pitchers have some lofty era's though.
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I have a 2.45 era, and it would be less than that if it wasn’t for one game I gave up 8 runs and another I rage quit in the second down 6-0 ( errors and bloops combined with a p/p warning track with Reggie) the problem with the HR is that there seems to be very little other way to score. Games seems to be 5-2 with most runs from bombs. I don’t mind the bombs but I’d like to see doubles and contact singles more often ( not bloops) the hr/9 does not need to be put back in unless the hits go for doubles instead. I want to see games where runs are scored in a variety of ways. If the games are 10-7 then so be it. I just want a variety of hits. It feels like whatever year it was where the games were low scoring but all homeruns ( 18?)
