Is it true?
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@go4stros25 said in Is it true?:
@raesONE- how lazy. I saw the Jeter moments being touted as a new feature lol. Any announcement on whether or not they plan to continue sets?
Lazy, I am not sure making a game for more consoles is a sign of laziness.
Let's face it, despite what some people want to believe, there are just way too many last gen console owners still out there for Sony or SDS to simply cut them off as a potential revenue source. They still buy the game. They still buy stubs.
Bottom line... The increased sales from current gen players who will only buy the game if the graphics are updated would not come close to making up for the lost sales caused by discontinuing support for the last gen gamers.
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@Dolenz said in Is it true?:
@go4stros25 said in Is it true?:
@raesONE- how lazy. I saw the Jeter moments being touted as a new feature lol. Any announcement on whether or not they plan to continue sets?
Lazy, I am not sure making a game for more consoles is a sign of laziness.
Let's face it, despite what some people want to believe, there are just way too many last gen console owners still out there for Sony or SDS to simply cut them off as a potential revenue source. They still buy the game. They still buy stubs.
Bottom line... The increased sales from current gen players who will only buy the game if the graphics are updated would not come close to making up for the lost sales caused by discontinuing support for the last gen gamers.
It is lazy. Look at what 2K does, they cater to both previous and current gen by releasing two completely different games. You can say whatever you want about 2K, but THAT is how it's done. I don't understand why people defend these choices so hard, unless you're one of the people who is still playing on a previous gen console. In that case it totally makes sense but at the same time it would also make you biased.
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@SaveFarris The fact that they're slow-drip feeding the features right up to launch kinda hints to me that it'll be largely the same, sadly. And I play a good chunk of the modes, DD, RTTS, Franchise, and even use the Stadium Creator(which good lord does THAT ever need an overhaul and brought up to speed with what people want).
I'm disappointed the game is still being held back by last-gen's graphic limitations...I fear they're wasting so much potential. And I do mean that with all due respect to previous gen players
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We're getting the ps4 version with slightly upgraded (and I mean, SLIGHTLY) graphics and the stadium creator.
Gross.
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@raesONE- said in Is it true?:
It is lazy
I gave SDS the benefit of the doubt in 21 and 22 when new consoles were tough to come by. I was disappointed when 23 didn't do the "dual" games. For 24, it is lazy.
Give us a true next-gen game. Leave the old code behind for the old-gen and Switch players. Wow us with new graphics, etc. Do that and you'll incent more folks to move to a next-gen console.
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@raesONE- said in Is it true?:
It is lazy. Look at what 2K does, they cater to both previous and current gen by releasing two completely different games. You can say whatever you want about 2K, but THAT is how it's done. I don't understand why people defend these choices so hard, unless you're one of the people who is still playing on a previous gen console. In that case it totally makes sense but at the same time it would also make you biased.
I'm not necessarily defending it but simply rationalizing why they still support last gen consoles.
Could it be laziness? Maybe. But I doubt it. Frugalness is probably the better explanation. If I was a betting man then I would venture to say that Sony probably does not give them the budget needed to cover the extra bandwidth on the employee side.
But by all means, consider me a defender for simply trying to think about the situation logically, and not letting emotions rule my discussions. I have had a PS5 since launch day (and a Series X as of last year) so of course I would like an enhanced version so, if anything, I would be biased the other direction.
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@go4stros25
I read that close to 80% of the player base still uses past gen consoles. The supply chain issues, from a couple of years ago, probably slowed down them moving on from past gen. -
@Dolenz said in Is it true?:
@raesONE- said in Is it true?:
It is lazy. Look at what 2K does, they cater to both previous and current gen by releasing two completely different games. You can say whatever you want about 2K, but THAT is how it's done. I don't understand why people defend these choices so hard, unless you're one of the people who is still playing on a previous gen console. In that case it totally makes sense but at the same time it would also make you biased.
I'm not necessarily defending it but simply rationalizing why they still support last gen consoles.
Could it be laziness? Maybe. But I doubt it. Frugalness is probably the better explanation. If I was a betting man then I would venture to say that Sony probably does not give them the budget needed to cover the extra bandwidth on the employee side.
But by all means, consider me a defender for simply trying to think about the situation logically, and not letting emotions rule my discussions. I have had a PS5 since launch day (and a Series X as of last year) so of course I would like an enhanced version so, if anything, I would be biased the other direction.
Fair enough. I'm not ruled by my emotions either, I am simply concluding that SDS is holding itself back by continuous support of last gen consoles. It's been 4 years now and the reports in the media today are about how the PS5 is entering the latter stage of its life cycle. And yet somehow they still make the exact same game for both platforms. That is just awful, PS5 users like you and me and many others have not been able to enjoy and experience a true current gen baseball game in 4 years because the product has to be able to run on an 11 year old system.
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@xElRojo44x yeah. People aren't going to buy next gen while they are still making old gen games. It's that simple.
Let's not forget that $70 for a new title was introduced for next gen games. Now it's just the industry standard, but we hardly get next gen games.
Mlb 24 is going to be the exact game as last year, with little to no improvements. Designed to run on decade old consoles and the Nintendo switch.. for $70-$100. Enjoy.
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Chances are that these 'bigger' companies that have different versions of the game for next gen and old gen users also have the manpower to develop these games.
Let's assume that you need two different teams to work on the game. One for each gen console.
SDS probably thinks that it's not financially beneficial for them to pay another team for the extra players that would buy the next gen version of the game. Also take into affect that a majority of the people that will buy the next gen version are already buying the game as it is.
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@X-FREEZE-OFF-X said in Is it true?:
Chances are that these 'bigger' companies that have different versions of the game for next gen and old gen users also have the manpower to develop these games.
Let's assume that you need two different teams to work on the game. One for each gen console.
SDS probably thinks that it's not financially beneficial for them to pay another team for the extra players that would buy the next gen version of the game. Also take into affect that a majority of the people that will buy the next gen version are already buying the game as it is.
That's fine, in that case you just make a choice and stick with it. Which would mean you develop for CURRENT gen and not last gen for an 11 year old console. Not doing so is also a choice. A lazy one. Because they can just keep riding the same old game we've had for years and years and hide behind the fact that it has to run on PS4 as well. Convenient isn't it?
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The point @xElRojo44x made was that 80% of their customers use previous generation consoles. If they abandon those customers they likely won’t make enough money to actually exist as a company. It’s baseball. It looks fine the way it is. It’s a lot easier to do basketball than baseball. They have a very basic arena and half the players out on the court for both teams than 1 team has to field.
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@fubar2k7
Yes, and I thought my point was pretty obvious. Guess not.Regardless, I have stressed my frustration with SDS not offering us a current gen version several times on this forum. I've played MLBTS on the PS5 since '22 and wish, as much as anyone, that we had an up to date video game to enjoy.
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@xElRojo44x said in Is it true?:
@fubar2k7
Yes, and I thought my point was pretty obvious. Guess not.Regardless, I have stressed my frustration with SDS not offering us a current gen version several times on this forum. I've played MLBTS on the PS5 since '22 and wish, as much as anyone, that we had an up to date video game to enjoy.
I agree. And just to show that the argument about budget and all that is not always the case, Rockstar has all the budget in the world and yet they can't be bothered by making a Red Dead Redemption 2 patch that enables 4K/60hz for current gen, despite a huge customer base who have been begging for it for years.
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I really don't know why you guys set yourselves up for disappointment by expecting such drastic and radical graphics improvements.
Do you want graphics so graphic, that will let you see if a batter let's out a fart into the poor catchers face, even if it's a silent one?
Do you want to see managers spitting sunflower seeds onto the dugout floor?
Do you want to hear the splash of bird [censored] splashing a dugout ceiling?
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@xElRojo44x said in Is it true?:
@fubar2k7
Yes, and I thought my point was pretty obvious. Guess not.Regardless, I have stressed my frustration with SDS not offering us a current gen version several times on this forum. I've played MLBTS on the PS5 since '22 and wish, as much as anyone, that we had an up to date video game to enjoy.
I saw hair flapping around for a split second on Vlad Jr and Hader right before the Negro League stream last week. That must mean something.
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@fubar2k7 said in Is it true?:
@xElRojo44x said in Is it true?:
@fubar2k7
Yes, and I thought my point was pretty obvious. Guess not.Regardless, I have stressed my frustration with SDS not offering us a current gen version several times on this forum. I've played MLBTS on the PS5 since '22 and wish, as much as anyone, that we had an up to date video game to enjoy.
I saw hair flapping around for a split second on Vlad Jr and Hader right before the Negro League stream last week. That must mean something.
It means that Manny Ramirez will be the LS collection reward
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@TheGoaler said in Is it true?:
Do you want graphics so graphic, that will let you see if a batter let's out a fart into the poor catchers face, even if it's a silent one?
Ummm - yes. I'm assuming this is the Ultra Digital Deluxe version. I would pay $199 for this.
And... This is EXACTLY what I'm expecting in Next-Gen.
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@arvcpa said in Is it true?:
@TheGoaler said in Is it true?:
Do you want graphics so graphic, that will let you see if a batter let's out a fart into the poor catchers face, even if it's a silent one?
Ummm - yes. I'm assuming this is the Ultra Digital Deluxe version. I would pay $199 for this.
And... This is EXACTLY what I'm expecting in Next-Gen.
Man, if you guys can find the audio of Stuttering John interviewing the late Ted Williams. He asked Ted if he ever farted in the catchers face. His reaction is priceless. This was when Howard Stern was really funny, on free radio!
https://youtu.be/LKV3kqeFss4?si=Vh5Qpqpld8AAyUE3 0:45 🤪 -
We called that crop dusting when I played lol
