No 99 Edgar is crazy
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@YOSHI24
I mean, the title of the thread answers your question. Edgar Martinez is the perfect example.As for LS bronze players with diamond cards, there are tons. Ryan Noda, Jack Suwinski, Sean Manaea, Jake Cronenworth, Diego Cartaya, Masyn Winn… there’s tons.
Now are these cards a bad thing? Hell no. But that Ryan Noda card, for example, has 103/125 power. By contrast, the best Edgar card in the game this year has 100/75 power.
The fact that Edgar has 75 power vs L because he had thousands more appearances vs R in his 20ish year career is inappropriate “realism” IMO.
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@halfbutt said in No 99 Edgar is crazy:
@YOSHI24
I mean, the title of the thread answers your question. Edgar Martinez is the perfect example.As for LS bronze players with diamond cards, there are tons. Ryan Noda, Jack Suwinski, Sean Manaea, Jake Cronenworth, Diego Cartaya, Masyn Winn… there’s tons.
Now are these cards a bad thing? Hell no. But that Ryan Noda card, for example, has 103/125 power. By contrast, the best Edgar card in the game this year has 100/75 power.
The fact that Edgar has 75 power vs L because he had thousands more appearances vs R in his 20ish year career is inappropriate “realism” IMO.
I don’t mind those cards because they are finest and reward a player for a good year or Topps now cards
I just don’t understand why they don’t reward so many legends which they have the rights to and had amazing careers
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@halfbutt said in No 99 Edgar is crazy:
@YOSHI24
I mean, the title of the thread answers your question. Edgar Martinez is the perfect example.As for LS bronze players with diamond cards, there are tons. Ryan Noda, Jack Suwinski, Sean Manaea, Jake Cronenworth, Diego Cartaya, Masyn Winn… there’s tons.
Now are these cards a bad thing? Hell no. But that Ryan Noda card, for example, has 103/125 power. By contrast, the best Edgar card in the game this year has 100/75 power.
The fact that Edgar has 75 power vs L because he had thousands more appearances vs R in his 20ish year career is inappropriate “realism” IMO.
If you continue to run back and cry about Edgar … okay. But you said „… players with LS bronzes into potential end game cards, whereas the legends …“ … you used the plural in legends which I referred to.
Other than that: Well, we got Topps Now and Finest. That means we get random weekly cards of „good performaners“. Those Topps Now Cards are not great, they are fillers. Nobody uses them a lot. And then we have finest … aka „the best players of each team this year“ … Well, you got the A‘s … and that is how Noda got his one.
If you continue crying about Edgar … that‘s your right, but again, you used the plural and that is a pretty random (and imo false argument) …
I am realizing that we have dozens of this „I cry about player X, because I did not like“-threads … We had a great Edgar last year and this year we did not … Could he have gotten a better and Schwarber one less? Yes, absolutely -
I’m not crying about anything. If you don’t agree with the premise of the thread, that is fine, but the thread is literally about the Edgar Martinez card this year.
Should I start another thread about Minnie Minoso, or can we talk about him here??
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No, fine … My only problem is with „They do legends wrong and LS Brozes get better ones“ (that is not a direct quote)… which is wrong. You can complain about Edgar … fine. But is wrong saying that legends are not given what they deserve. All online modes are filled with them and nobody uses bad finest/Topps Now cards. We do have them but that does not fit the narrative
To your question: … everybody makes useless duplicate threads, feel free
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@YOSHI24
When I made that comment, I was mostly thinking of players like Elly De La Cruz. I know it’s an unpopular take, but Elly has a LS silver, so maybe I was slightly off, however the point still stands. He has not one, but three 99’s, but has played less than 100 games in the MLB and has a career war of 0.8. -
Ok, but EVERYBODY loves Elly (and … I am being honest: only few like Edgar). His chase card is arguably the best card in the game. Did he deserve multiple? Probably no but I get that SDS gave him a Finest so that everybody could have an Elly.
Again, I would have given Edgar a 99, but it would be extremly boring if everybody would get every player „right“ each year. We would have exactly the same cards over and over again. These kind of discussions (if they would ever end and/or did not exaggerate all the time) belong to DD imo
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I will end it here with:
The 97 Edgar is awesome on your theme team. Take Teoscar as a cpt that gives him +15/10 on power and 10 on contactR … It is close to the Edgar we got last year imo … and got enough. -
@YOSHI24
I have been doing just that! I do like using one of the pitching captains (Gilbert or RJ) also, so sometimes I forego Teoscar in RF so I can use Mike Cameron.
Edgar is hitting .333/.333/.333 for me so far. A bit more pop would be nice but he is pretty clutch and gets decent pitches to hit because nobody is afraid of him. Lol. -
Also, I’m pretty sure a big part of the reason “everyone loves Elly” is his card is insane. Tons more people would love Edgar if his card was comparable. That’s kinda the point.
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@halfbutt said in No 99 Edgar is crazy:
Also, I’m pretty sure a big part of the reason “everyone loves Elly” is his card is insane. Tons more people would love Edgar if his card was comparable. That’s kinda the point.
I agree on your point. Although stealing 2nd, 3rd, and home off the same at bat, plus hitting for the cycle all as a rookie is pretty insane.
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@broken_toy1 said in No 99 Edgar is crazy:
@halfbutt said in No 99 Edgar is crazy:
Also, I’m pretty sure a big part of the reason “everyone loves Elly” is his card is insane. Tons more people would love Edgar if his card was comparable. That’s kinda the point.
I agree on your point. Although stealing 2nd, 3rd, and home off the same at bat, plus hitting for the cycle all as a rookie is pretty insane.
The cycle. I’d rather a single, double and 2 homeruns. Lol.
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@halfbutt said in No 99 Edgar is crazy:
Also, I’m pretty sure a big part of the reason “everyone loves Elly” is his card is insane. Tons more people would love Edgar if his card was comparable. That’s kinda the point.
He had an awesome 22 card and nobody used him (even I did not use him
). Elly is a 5-tool-guy … switch-hitting shortstop … he also fits the big Captain Squads -
You’re kinda making my point!
Elly is a very exciting player, no doubt. That said, he is a .8 war player who hit .235 in less than 100 MLB games.
Edgar hit .312 over an 18 year career, good for 68.4 war.
Obviously SDS feels their target demographic would rather have a juiced Elly card.
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I don‘t think you really get the card concepts … You gotta separate the „year cards“, live series, Topps Now and especially the Milestone cards. Later can be everything SDS wants it to be … Elly got his not for his „career accomplishment“ … It was one game (and a pretty big one).
If you want to make an argument about this, have fun with all the coming milestone cards
Your style of arguments will e.g. have fun with Ronald Acunas Milestone 40/70-card (which is awesome) … That is „ONLY“ one year, he has an 8.2. Career war … Edgar is way better … and still: Nobody cares.
Last point, after that I am out (it gets a little tiring): Edgar deserves a great 99 … period. But stop making crazy argument lines, that don‘t hold. Edgar could have an all around 125 card (which he would not deserve, those are for the Babe etc.) and still few would use him (it is the truth, look at 22) … and still everybody uses this Elly MilestoneEDIT: Just looked up Edgars 22 card: 125/125 contact, 106/114 power, 125 clutch, 3B/1B with 75 fielding … That is a hell of an (deserved) Edgar card … which nobody used …
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Whatever the type of card, the appeal to us players of this video game is the fantasy element. Nobody cares if Elly’s career is a bust moving forward, or if any of the juiced cards have a basis in reality or not. This is as it should be. We are not MLB players, but video game players. It’s supposed to be fun.
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@halfbutt said in No 99 Edgar is crazy:
Whatever the type of card, the appeal to us players of this video game is the fantasy element. Nobody cares if Elly’s career is a bust moving forward, or if any of the juiced cards have a basis in reality or not. This is as it should be. We are not MLB players, but video game players. It’s supposed to be fun.
Correct. But they don’t need to make 3 of him and Schwarber and wait until practically January to make a Willie Mays who is a better hitter than Adam Wainwright.
