The new BR/WS reward setup is fair.
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Several years ago the WS reward was Chipper Jones & man did I want that card BAD. Problem was - At that time I wasn’t yet a WS caliber player & there was no reward path. Only way for me to get him was to put in a buy now order for a million stubs & wait in line. By the time I earned a million stubs & put in the buy order, There was no way I was going to get one before the year ended. 4 months I waited & my order never got filled before the next show dropped….So please believe me when I say that being able to earn a no sell version is a HUGE WIN. If there’s a card you want, You can earn it nomatter your skill level…Now, As far as the outrage that it’s not fair that players that can make WS or go 12-0 get a sellable version - It’s absolutely fair…It’s hard to go 12-0, It’s hard to make WS. Doing so SHOULD earn you something extra. This is fair for all parties.
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@IrishFist412_XBL said in The new BR/WS reward setup is fair.:
Several years ago the WS reward was Chipper Jones & man did I want that card BAD. Problem was - At that time I wasn’t yet a WS caliber player & there was no reward path. Only way for me to get him was to put in a buy now order for a million stubs & wait in line. By the time I earned a million stubs & put in the buy order, There was no way I was going to get one before the year ended. 4 months I waited & my order never got filled before the next show dropped….So please believe me when I say that being able to earn a no sell version is a HUGE WIN. If there’s a card you want, You can earn it nomatter your skill level…Now, As far as the outrage that it’s not fair that players that can make WS or go 12-0 get a sellable version - It’s absolutely fair…It’s hard to go 12-0, It’s hard to make WS. Doing so SHOULD earn you something extra. This is fair for all parties.
You do get something extra, a 90+ card that sells for 150k stubs. That's a $100 value. The only thing this will do is drive more people away from online.
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@IrishFist412_XBL said in The new BR/WS reward setup is fair.:
Several years ago the WS reward was Chipper Jones & man did I want that card BAD. Problem was - At that time I wasn’t yet a WS caliber player & there was no reward path. Only way for me to get him was to put in a buy now order for a million stubs & wait in line. By the time I earned a million stubs & put in the buy order, There was no way I was going to get one before the year ended. 4 months I waited & my order never got filled before the next show dropped….So please believe me when I say that being able to earn a no sell version is a HUGE WIN. If there’s a card you want, You can earn it nomatter your skill level…Now, As far as the outrage that it’s not fair that players that can make WS or go 12-0 get a sellable version - It’s absolutely fair…It’s hard to go 12-0, It’s hard to make WS. Doing so SHOULD earn you something extra. This is fair for all parties.
So give those players a stub voucher instead of gatekeeping cards. Less than 1% make WS/go 12-0, not good to design content for only 1% of customers.
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@IrishFist412_XBL said in The new BR/WS reward setup is fair.:
Several years ago the WS reward was Chipper Jones & man did I want that card BAD. Problem was - At that time I wasn’t yet a WS caliber player & there was no reward path. Only way for me to get him was to put in a buy now order for a million stubs & wait in line. By the time I earned a million stubs & put in the buy order, There was no way I was going to get one before the year ended. 4 months I waited & my order never got filled before the next show dropped….So please believe me when I say that being able to earn a no sell version is a HUGE WIN. If there’s a card you want, You can earn it nomatter your skill level…Now, As far as the outrage that it’s not fair that players that can make WS or go 12-0 get a sellable version - It’s absolutely fair…It’s hard to go 12-0, It’s hard to make WS. Doing so SHOULD earn you something extra. This is fair for all parties.
Your whole post still doesn't explain why you shouldn't be able to sell the card from the program really. In that game if they had the program you would have been able to get it and sell it or keep it
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Bro you literally d ride the dudes so much you attack anybody saying negative stuff about the game at any time. The. You come on here d riding some more. Why do you think anybody cares what your opinion is? Maybe your 4 or 5 other flunkys but nobody else should care.
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I love terrible takes from the 1%. They act like their WS cards had no value, you guys get the cards day 1 or 2 when they have MAXIMUM value, who cares if by the end of the program they are 40k? (Which is still alot of stubs to many players). Same goes for BR, a bad player having to reset over and over again to get 3 points progress in the line where the WS quality players are sitting on 11-0 runs and getting the BR card immediately when it's value is 500k +
These players want the gatekeeping back, plain and simple. If they can get the game back to BR cards costing offline players 400k+ they don't have to grind anything outside of BR/Ranked to earn stubs cause they'll have a limitless supply of 12-0 cards. Maybe there should be a 3x cap for BR rewards so that the 1% know how the rest of us feel huh?
Less then 90% of the player base has the ability to get to WS and even less to go 12-0, if you just push away all those players who is left in these online modes? SDS should be working to make online play more accessible to players, not less. I thought it wouldn't be til set 3 when most players realize just how many of their favorite cards are going away and have to do another boring grind with [censored] cards to get a new set of the same dudes to use again, but these changes may just forward the massive dropoff in player numbers. As a hardcore offline (sometimes online) player I'm pretty much ready to go after all these greedy changes. Pretending they aren't getting as bad as Madden/2k is dumb, they are doing everything possible to make you have to buy stubs to play the game.
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@GradektheBard said in The new BR/WS reward setup is fair.:
@IrishFist412_XBL said in The new BR/WS reward setup is fair.:
Several years ago the WS reward was Chipper Jones & man did I want that card BAD. Problem was - At that time I wasn’t yet a WS caliber player & there was no reward path. Only way for me to get him was to put in a buy now order for a million stubs & wait in line. By the time I earned a million stubs & put in the buy order, There was no way I was going to get one before the year ended. 4 months I waited & my order never got filled before the next show dropped….So please believe me when I say that being able to earn a no sell version is a HUGE WIN. If there’s a card you want, You can earn it nomatter your skill level…Now, As far as the outrage that it’s not fair that players that can make WS or go 12-0 get a sellable version - It’s absolutely fair…It’s hard to go 12-0, It’s hard to make WS. Doing so SHOULD earn you something extra. This is fair for all parties.
So give those players a stub voucher instead of gatekeeping cards. Less than 1% make WS/go 12-0, not good to design content for only 1% of customers.
Where are you getting your numbers. Less than 1%? Please site your sources because I make WS every year and I’m certainly not a 1 percenter.
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This whole argument of “Well back in my day…” is bogus. You don’t introduce something and then take it away mid game cycle. You have a consumer base that is now accustomed to a certain status quo. It should be no surprise they are very upset.
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Not to mention half of the season reward path packs are non-sellable as well. Very little ways for offline players to earn stubs these days.
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Count me in the camp as ok with this as well. This probably “should” have been the setup on Day 1 when they introduced an alternative path to earn these cards vs having to pay 1M stubs (and wait in line) in prior years. Flipping is still very much in play to earn stubs so credit to the elite who earn these cards the “hard” way imo.
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Part of me thinks, "If you can't get to WS or go 12-0, then be thankful you can still get one of the cards, even if it's no-sell."
Part of me thinks, "Designing a reward path that applies to 1-5% of the game base is not respectful towards that game base."
There's truth to both of these. SDS is trying to find the middle ground between funneling players to purchase stubs and spoiling them with free content. They're doing it on the fly, which looks really bad.
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@GoTitans3_XBL said in The new BR/WS reward setup is fair.:
Bro you literally d ride the dudes so much you attack anybody saying negative stuff about the game at any time. The. You come on here d riding some more. Why do you think anybody cares what your opinion is? Maybe your 4 or 5 other flunkys but nobody else should care.
You’re an angry little elf!
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@Firestormx_MLBTS said in The new BR/WS reward setup is fair.:
You do get something extra, a 90+ card that sells for 150k stubs. That's a $100 value. The only thing this will do is drive more people away from online.
Which player/card is this?
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@RaysBraves_PSN said in The new BR/WS reward setup is fair.:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in The new BR/WS reward setup is fair.:
You do get something extra, a 90+ card that sells for 150k stubs. That's a $100 value. The only thing this will do is drive more people away from online.
Which player/card is this?
When you go 12-0 in BR, you get the Flawless reward plus a 90+ LS.
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@IrishFist412_XBL said in The new BR/WS reward setup is fair.:
Several years ago the WS reward was Chipper Jones & man did I want that card BAD. Problem was - At that time I wasn’t yet a WS caliber player & there was no reward path. Only way for me to get him was to put in a buy now order for a million stubs & wait in line. By the time I earned a million stubs & put in the buy order, There was no way I was going to get one before the year ended. 4 months I waited & my order never got filled before the next show dropped….So please believe me when I say that being able to earn a no sell version is a HUGE WIN. If there’s a card you want, You can earn it nomatter your skill level…Now, As far as the outrage that it’s not fair that players that can make WS or go 12-0 get a sellable version - It’s absolutely fair…It’s hard to go 12-0, It’s hard to make WS. Doing so SHOULD earn you something extra. This is fair for all parties.
This is not a win.
You grind 10+ hours for a card you should be able to sell it. There was literally nothing wrong with the system before except the 12-0 goons couldn't get 500k for going flawless. Why do games continue to listen to streamers that have their own agendas. How about we get dedicated servers and see how many of these people can go flawless then?
Anyone going flawless more than likely has LS collections done. It was usually at least a 100k total for your flawless. Wasn't good enough for the .01% though so let's make that non-sellable. Good idea. smh
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I’m fine with it! I used to be a pretty good competitive player. I made WS 4 or 5 times in ‘17. It was very tough……as it should be! That same year was the ONLY time I went 12-0. Also went 12-1 on two other occasions. It was double tough and to be honest I had a bit of luck on my side in my 12-0 run. I no longer have the patience for all that. I’m perfectly happy hanging between 500-700. With all that being said, if you make WS or go 12-0 you should be rewarded with a sellable card. Those that complete the program (like me), you’re being rewarded with a very nice card but you should not be able to sell it. Completing a program just means you played long enough to get it.
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RS rewards I can understand not being sellable as anyone can complete the program much like any program which are all no sell so that makes sense, you could apply the same logic to BR the difference is that you pay the entry fee
If they had reduce the entry fee to say 500 stubs and applied the no sell option then I think tye program reward no sell theory applies.
I still do beleive that SDS in 23 us in experiment mode with sets and season so this will be one of many changes we see so be prepared for other stuff...just my 2 cents
