Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!

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@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

Why would they do that? SDS openly rewards cheesers and freezers. These are the chumps that spend real world money on digital cards. SDS may as well change their name to EA sports part 2.

How are correlating people who spend money on stubs with people who dashboard?

Because they are usually not good enough to grind for the big cards, so they just go the short route and buy them.

All the streamers buy stubs, most are very good, , so this statement makes no sense like most things you post.

Now how do you correlate not being good at the game and dashboarding? In my experience more guys with very good records dashboard against me than vice versa.

Looking

So, the fact that I have faced many players who are just as bad as I am at hitting, but somehow have all the meta cards?

Of course, the streamers have them, because they are streaming, and nobody wants to watch someone play with an all bronze lineup. I was specifically stating that that lots of the cheesers and freezers who are worse than me have to buy the cards because they cannot grind them out because they are lazy and would rather cheat than try to get better.

At least I am honest about my hitting, which while it is getting better is still significantly worse than many. But of course you have to have an attitude and throw in the personal attack.

First, show me where I made a personal
Attack. I simply asked you to backup your statement saying the people that dashboard are the same people who buy stubs ( which you are shaming), and both these people do this because they are lousy at the game.

Second, @Ericulous1_PSN , one of the coolest
Guys here stated he is not good at hitting or the game but has basically every card…so you are inferring he must be spending money, cheating , freezing, and dashboarding. I can promise he does none of those things. So you are the one being disrespectful to the community with your wide spread assumptions and insults.

And again you take what I said and completely ignore everything I said and said that I said EVERYONE does it. Yet again, I will say it for you. I said that the cheesers and freezers. Not all the bad hitters. There is a difference.

As for the personal attack reference:

"so this statement makes no sense like most things you post."

Just because you don't agree with what I say doesn't make you automatically right and me automatically wrong. If you don't like what I am saying, then so be it.

And again, you are showing your arrogance by assuming I am insulting the community with my comments. Let those who I am supposedly insulting speak for themselves and stop assuming how they feel. They are capable of stating their own opinions.

I am speaking for myself. Your post lumped me into this group you are admonishing. I buy stubs at start of every game cycle to get things rolling. Yet I don’t dashboard, I have made WS multiple times, I don’t cheat/freeze, or play toxic.

And I stand by my statement that your posts do not make sense based on this one, and the only other one I have seen where you said MLB eliminating the shift won’t help increase batting averages.

Ah, now I see where the hostility is coming from. Again, I specifically said cheesers and freezers. I am well aware that many don't cheese and freeze and still buy stubs and don't fall into this category. I wish people were not offended so easily, but if it's an apology you want, then fine. I am sorry if you felt I was attacking you.

However, I do stand by my comment about shifts not affecting batting averages. I feel that many players are now just too lazy and want to hit nothing but homers. Forcing the shift to be eliminated won't change the all or nothing approach to the plate.

Obviously, we won't know for a couple of years, but the fact that you don't agree does not automatically make you right and me wrong. The reverse also applies. I am not automatically right either.

Also, I appreciate it that you don't dashboard. Unfortunately, I didn't get the same from another player who dashboarded what would have been my first homer since putting Trout in the lineup because I need to get hits from Angels players for my program and lost that.

SDS

@SaveFarris_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

When a player hits a home run, it's clear that the announcer knows it and the crowd knows it, ergo, the program knows it. So just count the [censored] HR and RBIS and Runs from the MOMENT THE BALL LEAVES THE BAT.

Because that’s against MLB rules. Just ask Robin Ventura.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Slam_Single

It’s all Robin Venturas name mentioned with shennanigans

SDS

@macdaddy-o_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

This seems incredibly simple, and I don't understand why SDS can't fix this problem that plagues the game online. When a player hits a home run, it's clear that the announcer knows it and the crowd knows it, ergo, the program knows it. So just count the [censored] HR and RBIS and Runs from the MOMENT THE BALL LEAVES THE BAT. Don't wait for runners to cross the plate, and let little, stupid, [censored] players pull the plug and cheat people of their rightfully earned stats. How hard can that possibly be to program?

I was playing a Ranked Season game, grinding out points for the August players to both A) get the Mookie card for the current program and B) grind out the last points I needed for the Extreme Program and Donaldson card.

I'm playing a tight 0-0 pitcher's duel, the kind of game that anyone who likes baseball can appreciate. Finally, in the bottom of the ninth, I have the bases loaded with two outs. He throws a 2-0 fastball down the middle and I crush it for a grand slam for Alex Bregman, who needs the points. And this complete, disrespectful, hateful troll of a person dashboards the game, so I don't get the HR, RBIs, etc. What a pathetic sore loser. Makes Billy Martin seem like a grateful gentleman.

I'm fed up with this happening -- as are a lot of players -- and it's high time SDS fix it. I spend enough time on this game not to have to lose valuable player points and do more work to achieve what's rightfully been earned. Fix it.

You know what "plagues" this game online? Bad matchups. I'll dashboard you in a second, wanna know why? I'm over 20 games under .500, almost every RS game I play, it's against someone with a winning record. I can actually predict wins and loses before the game starts. SDS should not constantly match me against opponents that are clearly much better than I am. I'm not going to let someone just bash dingers against me. I'll usually give up a run or two, but I'm not playing this game to get blown out of every game.
And your 0-0 "pitcher duel?" Boring. That's practically every game I play. If I knew I had a chance to score, I'd stick around. But I rarely score more than a run or 2, so why keep playing? Most games are 1 swing 1 home run 1 win. I hate those games. Nothing but flyout, groundout, strike out. The game is entirely too stingy with hits and runs. And if your 9th inning grand slam was proceeded by walks and/or hit batters, I'd dashboarded it too. You didn't earn it, the game gifted it to you. So yea, its simple. SDS can improve matchmaking and allow more offensive success. And stop the walks/hit batter setup. I can't believe how many times, late in a game, all of a sudden I can't throw a strike, give up a walk or hit a batter followed by a home run. I'll dashboard that every time. But your right, fix the game.

SDS

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

Why would they do that? SDS openly rewards cheesers and freezers. These are the chumps that spend real world money on digital cards. SDS may as well change their name to EA sports part 2.

How are correlating people who spend money on stubs with people who dashboard?

Because they are usually not good enough to grind for the big cards, so they just go the short route and buy them.

All the streamers buy stubs, most are very good, , so this statement makes no sense like most things you post.

Now how do you correlate not being good at the game and dashboarding? In my experience more guys with very good records dashboard against me than vice versa.

Looking

So, the fact that I have faced many players who are just as bad as I am at hitting, but somehow have all the meta cards?

Of course, the streamers have them, because they are streaming, and nobody wants to watch someone play with an all bronze lineup. I was specifically stating that that lots of the cheesers and freezers who are worse than me have to buy the cards because they cannot grind them out because they are lazy and would rather cheat than try to get better.

At least I am honest about my hitting, which while it is getting better is still significantly worse than many. But of course you have to have an attitude and throw in the personal attack.

First, show me where I made a personal
Attack. I simply asked you to backup your statement saying the people that dashboard are the same people who buy stubs ( which you are shaming), and both these people do this because they are lousy at the game.

Second, @Ericulous1_PSN , one of the coolest
Guys here stated he is not good at hitting or the game but has basically every card…so you are inferring he must be spending money, cheating , freezing, and dashboarding. I can promise he does none of those things. So you are the one being disrespectful to the community with your wide spread assumptions and insults.

And again you take what I said and completely ignore everything I said and said that I said EVERYONE does it. Yet again, I will say it for you. I said that the cheesers and freezers. Not all the bad hitters. There is a difference.

As for the personal attack reference:

"so this statement makes no sense like most things you post."

Just because you don't agree with what I say doesn't make you automatically right and me automatically wrong. If you don't like what I am saying, then so be it.

And again, you are showing your arrogance by assuming I am insulting the community with my comments. Let those who I am supposedly insulting speak for themselves and stop assuming how they feel. They are capable of stating their own opinions.

I am speaking for myself. Your post lumped me into this group you are admonishing. I buy stubs at start of every game cycle to get things rolling. Yet I don’t dashboard, I have made WS multiple times, I don’t cheat/freeze, or play toxic.

And I stand by my statement that your posts do not make sense based on this one, and the only other one I have seen where you said MLB eliminating the shift won’t help increase batting averages.

Ah, now I see where the hostility is coming from. Again, I specifically said cheesers and freezers. I am well aware that many don't cheese and freeze and still buy stubs and don't fall into this category. I wish people were not offended so easily, but if it's an apology you want, then fine. I am sorry if you felt I was attacking you.

However, I do stand by my comment about shifts not affecting batting averages. I feel that many players are now just too lazy and want to hit nothing but homers. Forcing the shift to be eliminated won't change the all or nothing approach to the plate.

Obviously, we won't know for a couple of years, but the fact that you don't agree does not automatically make you right and me wrong. The reverse also applies. I am not automatically right either.

Also, I appreciate it that you don't dashboard. Unfortunately, I didn't get the same from another player who dashboarded what would have been my first homer since putting Trout in the lineup because I need to get hits from Angels players for my program and lost that.

Classy response. I wasn’t needing an apology, I was speaking for others who aren’t great at this game but felt like they were being lumped in with the bad behavior. Appreciate you clarifying.

and fair enough. Logic says batting average should increase with the shift eliminated, but it’s not a Fact and needs to happen before anyone is right or wrong.

Cheers.

SDS

@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

Why would they do that? SDS openly rewards cheesers and freezers. These are the chumps that spend real world money on digital cards. SDS may as well change their name to EA sports part 2.

How are correlating people who spend money on stubs with people who dashboard?

Because they are usually not good enough to grind for the big cards, so they just go the short route and buy them.

All the streamers buy stubs, most are very good, , so this statement makes no sense like most things you post.

Now how do you correlate not being good at the game and dashboarding? In my experience more guys with very good records dashboard against me than vice versa.

Looking

So, the fact that I have faced many players who are just as bad as I am at hitting, but somehow have all the meta cards?

Of course, the streamers have them, because they are streaming, and nobody wants to watch someone play with an all bronze lineup. I was specifically stating that that lots of the cheesers and freezers who are worse than me have to buy the cards because they cannot grind them out because they are lazy and would rather cheat than try to get better.

At least I am honest about my hitting, which while it is getting better is still significantly worse than many. But of course you have to have an attitude and throw in the personal attack.

First, show me where I made a personal
Attack. I simply asked you to backup your statement saying the people that dashboard are the same people who buy stubs ( which you are shaming), and both these people do this because they are lousy at the game.

Second, @Ericulous1_PSN , one of the coolest
Guys here stated he is not good at hitting or the game but has basically every card…so you are inferring he must be spending money, cheating , freezing, and dashboarding. I can promise he does none of those things. So you are the one being disrespectful to the community with your wide spread assumptions and insults.

And again you take what I said and completely ignore everything I said and said that I said EVERYONE does it. Yet again, I will say it for you. I said that the cheesers and freezers. Not all the bad hitters. There is a difference.

As for the personal attack reference:

"so this statement makes no sense like most things you post."

Just because you don't agree with what I say doesn't make you automatically right and me automatically wrong. If you don't like what I am saying, then so be it.

And again, you are showing your arrogance by assuming I am insulting the community with my comments. Let those who I am supposedly insulting speak for themselves and stop assuming how they feel. They are capable of stating their own opinions.

I am speaking for myself. Your post lumped me into this group you are admonishing. I buy stubs at start of every game cycle to get things rolling. Yet I don’t dashboard, I have made WS multiple times, I don’t cheat/freeze, or play toxic.

And I stand by my statement that your posts do not make sense based on this one, and the only other one I have seen where you said MLB eliminating the shift won’t help increase batting averages.

Ah, now I see where the hostility is coming from. Again, I specifically said cheesers and freezers. I am well aware that many don't cheese and freeze and still buy stubs and don't fall into this category. I wish people were not offended so easily, but if it's an apology you want, then fine. I am sorry if you felt I was attacking you.

However, I do stand by my comment about shifts not affecting batting averages. I feel that many players are now just too lazy and want to hit nothing but homers. Forcing the shift to be eliminated won't change the all or nothing approach to the plate.

Obviously, we won't know for a couple of years, but the fact that you don't agree does not automatically make you right and me wrong. The reverse also applies. I am not automatically right either.

Also, I appreciate it that you don't dashboard. Unfortunately, I didn't get the same from another player who dashboarded what would have been my first homer since putting Trout in the lineup because I need to get hits from Angels players for my program and lost that.

Classy response. I wasn’t needing an apology, I was speaking for others who aren’t great at this game but felt like they were being lumped in with the bad behavior. Appreciate you clarifying.

and fair enough. Logic says batting average should increase with the shift eliminated, but it’s not a Fact and needs to happen before anyone is right or wrong.

Cheers.

Thanks for the shout out dude. Now I just need about 175,000 more Pxp for Donaldson :).

SDS

@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@theBlindRhino said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@Dolenz_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@theBlindRhino said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

I think there should be a one hour ban from online play for dashboarding.

So if somebody's power glitches in a storm or the internet drops briefly because of a provider issue they should be punished.

I realize that the overwhelming majority are people quitting but there is no way for SDS to know for sure.

Yes. If it is during a homer. An hour should allow them to figure their connection out.

Let’s be honest. We all play this game way too much. How many times have you lost power or had your connection drop in the middle of an opponents homerun. I can say zero here.

So that argument is a bunch of BS.

Twice, both cat related.

SDS

Bro I'm batting like .200, but have a winning record, and have NOT spent a dime and have all the cards except like 25. And most of them r early year br rewards, like chipper, that cost 60k now. But in getting them a couple a day now. And agsin I'm no money spent. What r u saying about me? Cause I don't do it and I get just as mad. I've lost like 50 hrs and missed br missions because of it multiple times.

SDS

Anytime that anybody on this forum correlates spending real life money on virtual cards because they are not good enough to grind, has a lot to learn. Don't be so obtuse. Is it deliberate?

Anyways, dashboarding is weak and childish. It serves no purpose except as edification for immaturity and being a sore loser. There's no correlation to NMS vs RL money spent.

I can explain mechanics as to why the stats don't count and what lines of program need to run before the reconciliation event of registering the HR occurs for both clients, but it may come out a little boring.

It's not a easy fix based on the structure of how online play works in this product. There's a solution to identify the dashboard but it's going to be a unpopular solution for the "hit and quit" folks that also rush to be the "first" or people that feel it's more efficient to game the game rather than play it as intended. Whole nother debate.

Sorry for the long sentences. It's 4:30 am. Brain engine just getting warmed up...

SDS

@theBlindRhino said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

I think there should be a one hour ban from online play for dashboarding.

Well, thats a problem in genuine freeze offs.

I was playing some y/day, was winning 9-7 bottom of the 8th, it froze. I waited 15 mins, the guy didnt do the right thing, i dashboarded and played another game. I dont deserve a 1 hour ban for that.

SDS

Dashboarding and genuine disconnects create an event on the SDS servers. You are awarded a ritual each time. They don't differentiate between internet and dashboard.

How can they differentiate the two? SQL query.

Disconnect with a win. Disconnect with a loss. Disconnect X number of times a day.

Find the pattern (it's there in the data), suspend the user. Wait for the LOL appeals.

One or even two a day? Probably not habitual.

How can you differentiate quits vs CPU and H2H? Issue a different ritual for each disconnect. You'll be surprised how many people stop dashboarding.

SDS

@lewisnadasurf1_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@theBlindRhino said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

I think there should be a one hour ban from online play for dashboarding.

Well, thats a problem in genuine freeze offs.

I was playing some y/day, was winning 9-7 bottom of the 8th, it froze. I waited 15 mins, the guy didnt do the right thing, i dashboarded and played another game. I dont deserve a 1 hour ban for that.

That’s not the same thing. We
Are talking about dashboarding in the middle of opponents homerun. SDS has to have the ability to know when their RNG has given a homerun and the opponent quits in mid flight.

That is what needs to be addressed.

SDS

All the stupid "power loss" arguments. It doesn't matter if the little crybaby dashboarders don't get punished. Whatever. Being a pile of [censored] is its own punishment.

JUST COUNT THE STATS FOR THE HITTER. Like the OP said, can't be that hard to program in.

SDS

SDS

@macdaddy-o_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

This seems incredibly simple, and I don't understand why SDS can't fix this problem that plagues the game online. When a player hits a home run, it's clear that the announcer knows it and the crowd knows it, ergo, the program knows it. So just count the [censored] HR and RBIS and Runs from the MOMENT THE BALL LEAVES THE BAT. Don't wait for runners to cross the plate, and let little, stupid, [censored] players pull the plug and cheat people of their rightfully earned stats. How hard can that possibly be to program?

I was playing a Ranked Season game, grinding out points for the August players to both A) get the Mookie card for the current program and B) grind out the last points I needed for the Extreme Program and Donaldson card.

I'm playing a tight 0-0 pitcher's duel, the kind of game that anyone who likes baseball can appreciate. Finally, in the bottom of the ninth, I have the bases loaded with two outs. He throws a 2-0 fastball down the middle and I crush it for a grand slam for Alex Bregman, who needs the points. And this complete, disrespectful, hateful troll of a person dashboards the game, so I don't get the HR, RBIs, etc. What a pathetic sore loser. Makes Billy Martin seem like a grateful gentleman.

I'm fed up with this happening -- as are a lot of players -- and it's high time SDS fix it. I spend enough time on this game not to have to lose valuable player points and do more work to achieve what's rightfully been earned. Fix it.

wonderful post mate - i hope SDS wakes up and does something about this too

SDS

@Dolenz_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@theBlindRhino said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

I think there should be a one hour ban from online play for dashboarding.

So if somebody's power glitches in a storm or the internet drops briefly because of a provider issue they should be punished.

I realize that the overwhelming majority are people quitting but there is no way for SDS to know for sure.

I hear this argument all the time, but how often -- really, how often -- do you think someone's power glitches out in the 2-second span between an opponent making contact with a no-doubter and when it lands in the stands? I would wager this is unbelievably, mind-boggingly rare.

I think there should be a little wiggle room. Like, you get 2 warnings for dashboarding/quitting any time the ball is in play, and then you get a 24-hour ban on your 3rd offense, 72-hour on 4th, etc. The warnings could even reset every time there's a new program or a new WS season. If your power is going out more than 2 times per month then you need to call an electrician or something.

That still allows people to rage quit when the ball is not in play and suffer no penalty. Just wait for the HR to drop and then exit out of the game. No one is mad about that. Free W. But I cannot believe that there are more than just a small handful of legitimate power/internet outages during a HR.

SDS

@lewisnadasurf1_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@theBlindRhino said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

I think there should be a one hour ban from online play for dashboarding.

Well, thats a problem in genuine freeze offs.

I was playing some y/day, was winning 9-7 bottom of the 8th, it froze. I waited 15 mins, the guy didnt do the right thing, i dashboarded and played another game. I dont deserve a 1 hour ban for that.

That is not the definition of dashboarding as we are discussing. Most freeze offs don't occur while the ball is in play. Dashboarding, as I see it, it the opponent quickly closing the app before runs are allowed to score.

SDS

Personally, I would like to see SDS put all the cheesers, freezers and dashboarders in their own little division where they can play bunt ball all day long and quit once someone actually swings and hits a homer. Makes for better match ups for the rest of us while letting them suffer the same way they do all of us.

SDS

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@OreoRockstar_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

@darkblue1876_PSN said in Easy Fix for Dashboarding, SDS -- DO IT!!!:

Why would they do that? SDS openly rewards cheesers and freezers. These are the chumps that spend real world money on digital cards. SDS may as well change their name to EA sports part 2.

How are correlating people who spend money on stubs with people who dashboard?

Because they are usually not good enough to grind for the big cards, so they just go the short route and buy them.

All the streamers buy stubs, most are very good, , so this statement makes no sense like most things you post.

Now how do you correlate not being good at the game and dashboarding? In my experience more guys with very good records dashboard against me than vice versa.

Looking

So, the fact that I have faced many players who are just as bad as I am at hitting, but somehow have all the meta cards?

Of course, the streamers have them, because they are streaming, and nobody wants to watch someone play with an all bronze lineup. I was specifically stating that that lots of the cheesers and freezers who are worse than me have to buy the cards because they cannot grind them out because they are lazy and would rather cheat than try to get better.

At least I am honest about my hitting, which while it is getting better is still significantly worse than many. But of course you have to have an attitude and throw in the personal attack.

First, show me where I made a personal
Attack. I simply asked you to backup your statement saying the people that dashboard are the same people who buy stubs ( which you are shaming), and both these people do this because they are lousy at the game.

Second, @Ericulous1_PSN , one of the coolest
Guys here stated he is not good at hitting or the game but has basically every card…so you are inferring he must be spending money, cheating , freezing, and dashboarding. I can promise he does none of those things. So you are the one being disrespectful to the community with your wide spread assumptions and insults.

And again you take what I said and completely ignore everything I said and said that I said EVERYONE does it. Yet again, I will say it for you. I said that the cheesers and freezers. Not all the bad hitters. There is a difference.

As for the personal attack reference:

"so this statement makes no sense like most things you post."

Just because you don't agree with what I say doesn't make you automatically right and me automatically wrong. If you don't like what I am saying, then so be it.

And again, you are showing your arrogance by assuming I am insulting the community with my comments. Let those who I am supposedly insulting speak for themselves and stop assuming how they feel. They are capable of stating their own opinions.

I am speaking for myself. Your post lumped me into this group you are admonishing. I buy stubs at start of every game cycle to get things rolling. Yet I don’t dashboard, I have made WS multiple times, I don’t cheat/freeze, or play toxic.

And I stand by my statement that your posts do not make sense based on this one, and the only other one I have seen where you said MLB eliminating the shift won’t help increase batting averages.

Ah, now I see where the hostility is coming from. Again, I specifically said cheesers and freezers. I am well aware that many don't cheese and freeze and still buy stubs and don't fall into this category. I wish people were not offended so easily, but if it's an apology you want, then fine. I am sorry if you felt I was attacking you.

However, I do stand by my comment about shifts not affecting batting averages. I feel that many players are now just too lazy and want to hit nothing but homers. Forcing the shift to be eliminated won't change the all or nothing approach to the plate.

Obviously, we won't know for a couple of years, but the fact that you don't agree does not automatically make you right and me wrong. The reverse also applies. I am not automatically right either.

Also, I appreciate it that you don't dashboard. Unfortunately, I didn't get the same from another player who dashboarded what would have been my first homer since putting Trout in the lineup because I need to get hits from Angels players for my program and lost that.

There is absolutely no room for your civil, respectful, well-reasoned argument that does not resort to childish name calling and allows for the possibility that either, neither, or both parties could be correct. I'll give you one more chance to make a crass, vulgar, and/or sexist comment before we have to kindly ask you to please take this energy and visit a forum for BBC nature documentaries.