Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?
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@raesone_psn said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
@rabid55wolverine said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
@raesone_psn said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
@rabid55wolverine said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
@raesone_psn said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
@rabid55wolverine said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
@raesone_psn said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
No, what MLB should have done is abolish exclusive rights and allow multiple developers to develop baseball games for any platform. It's common knowledge that any form of market competition will always benefit the consumer, and any lack of competition will always hurt the consumer. Which is why cartel behavior by any (group of) organization(s) is penalized quite severely, to ensure that consumers aren't being taken advantage of in a non-freemarket setting. This whole exclusive rights in the video game industry started off with good intentions, like drawing new customers by developing a masterpiece game (for example someone buys a playstation just to be able to play God of War or The Last of Us). But this idea has been taken advantage of by every professional sports league by handing out exclusive rights to certain developers (EA, 2K, SDS) not because they want to make sure the fans of those leagues get the best enjoyable product possible for them to play, but to milk them for each and every penny that they are willing to put into the game. A negative side effect is the developers becoming lazy and unmotivated to improve their product, because they know they have exclusive rights. So no matter the complaints, the power they have by being the only one on the market, hurts the consumers and in my opinion should become illegal.
I dont think that San Diego Studios has an exclusivity deal with MLB. I could be wrong but I don't think they do. Same as NHL with EA. They don't have one there either but there is no company willing to get in financial trouble to try and take on the big boy. Don't think 2k has the NBA exclusive either because NBA by EA was out and crashed hard because it couldn't compete with 2k and no one bought it.
https://www.si.com/.amp/nba/2019/01/15/nba-2k-take-two-licensing-agreement
Making the fees for licensing this high is essentially the same thing as giving exclusive rights, because no company in the world is able to match it with the risks involved. They could give developers the opportunity to develop whatever they want and ask a percentage for every copy sold in return, but that would be peanuts compared to these staggering amounts. Don't get fooled by corporate greed.
They absolutely could do it that way but it is what it is. It's not exclusivity is all I was saying.
It really technically is the same thing. If you fail to understand that principle, then I'd be more than happy to provide you with an additional example of how a system might be considered fair according to laws but in reality really isn't but had been exploited by a maze.
Keep talking down to me as much as you please but technically and it is 100% isn't the same. I know what you are saying, what I said is that there is not an exclusive contract. ANYONE who wants to make the game can if they Pony up the money so there is no exclusivity. I get that the money for a license is amazingly high stopping 99.9% of companies from making the game but that doesn't change the fact of what I said.
What does is matter how it is called - if the effect is the very same? Don't be so blind.
If it didn't matter you wouldn't be arguing so to you it does but again, keep talking down to me, I'm sure it makes you feel better
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Lets be honest, this game had far worse issues before xplay happened
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@bearsfan217_xbl said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
Lets be honest, this game had far worse issues before xplay happened
Xbox, Switch (And should be PC) have, and would have almost zero role in the game's faults. Even serverwise.
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People crying about servers need to buy an Ethernet cable.
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@mrfoodmonsta_psn said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
People crying about servers need to buy an Ethernet cable.
I'd assume a lot of the people upset are the ones playing AGAINST the players without a wired connection.
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@thegoaler_psn said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
Seems like all the weirdness got even worse when this game became cross-platform, imo.
I'm glad XBox users can play since they no longer had a console baseball game, but things did get a bit crazier with the servers especially with new consoles on-board.
Gran Turismo stayed exclusive, so did Forza. Should the show have?
Do they look greedy for expanding?
It's hard to say, but I think what I'm saying is true.Forza was/is still a mess…this is just The Show, really no different than any other year…it will have some semblance of baseball in July.
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Any other developer is free to purchase licensing rights go ahead and step up
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@hustlinowl_psn said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
Any other developer is free to purchase licensing rights go ahead and step up
You of all people I wouldn't expect to understand a thing I said lmao.
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@cdnmoneymaker93_nsw said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
Can we maybe look at a positive here and see some good that game of this. The fact that this change to multiple platform lead to a full fledged feature rich sports game on the Switch. Nintendo sports fan deserve so much better and finally got one and one that works very well. I love love MLB on the switch and being able to play switch and then move over to Xbox and everything is there.
It’s good for Nintendo owners, but this means next gen won’t see a new engine/bump in graphics for a while because the game has to cater to the lowest common denominator. Not a knock on the Switch, but it is what it is.
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@hustlinowl_psn said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
Any other developer is free to purchase licensing rights go ahead and step up
EA and 2K seem scared. I repeat. Seem.
Reluctant may be a better word.
They had Baseball before. I know people that worked on those may be long gone from the company, but those companies did make Baseball games, and may be afraid to challenge SDS, the way no one challenges EA and Madden arcade Football.
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@thegoaler_psn said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
@hustlinowl_psn said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
Any other developer is free to purchase licensing rights go ahead and step up
EA and 2K seem scared. I repeat. Seem.
Reluctant may be a better word.
They had Baseball before. I know people that worked on those may be long gone from the company, but those companies did make Baseball games, but may be afraid to challenge SDS, the way no one challenges EA and Madden arcade FootballHate to say it but this is arcade baseball and has been since ‘17. We have to accept that we are all getting older and SDS has to cater to a younger fanbase.
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@mrfoodmonsta_psn said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
People crying about servers need to buy an Ethernet cable.
Lol. Wired or wireless only affects how well you connect to YOUR connection. Not how well you connect to the server. Or what the servers are doing.
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No, what MLB should have done is abolish exclusive rights and allow multiple developers to develop baseball games for any platform.
A. MLB doesnt want fly-by-night operations to start releasing flash-level games. They wanted to exert some quality control and you really can’t blame them.
It's common knowledge that any form of market competition will always benefit the consumer, and any lack of competition will always hurt the consumer.
B. It’s common knowledge that MLBTS has plenty of competition, from CoD to Madden to Elder Ring to Netflix to D+ to Dr Strange to Spotify to CNN+ (well … not anymore) to MLB itself. All vying for that precious disposable income.
If you can’t see that, you really should look into enrolling in a basic ECON class down at your local community college.
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@savefarris_psn said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
No, what MLB should have done is abolish exclusive rights and allow multiple developers to develop baseball games for any platform.
A. MLB doesnt want fly-by-night operations to start releasing flash-level games. They wanted to exert some quality control and you really can’t blame them.
It's common knowledge that any form of market competition will always benefit the consumer, and any lack of competition will always hurt the consumer.
B. It’s common knowledge that MLBTS has plenty of competition, from CoD to Madden to Elder Ring to Netflix to D+ to Dr Strange to Spotify to CNN+ (well … not anymore) to MLB itself. All vying for that precious disposable income.
If you can’t see that, you really should look into enrolling in a basic ECON class down at your local community college.
This coming from the same guy who couldn’t wrap his head around licensing and patent licensing while playing a game fully licensed by MLB?. As the show historian you should remember our conversation about DDA from ‘19.
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I remember. @Victor_SDS_PSN said I was “basically correct” and that you were 100% wrong.
It was a pretty good day.
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There's no DDA in MLB the Show
I'll prove that all day, every day, and twice on Sunday.
Game is fine across all these additional platforms. They're doing something that most of the other Sports games wish they could do. Allowing people on all platforms to play against people on all platforms. Not the nonsense that EA and 2K do for games like Madden, NBA, Golf etc.
Stadia/PC, Xbox, PS all separate.
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@hoboadam_psn said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
There's no DDA in MLB the Show
I'll prove that all day, every day, and twice on Sunday.
Game is fine across all these additional platforms. They're doing something that most of the other Sports games wish they could do. Allowing people on all platforms to play against people on all platforms. Not the nonsense that EA and 2K do for games like Madden, NBA, Golf etc.
Stadia/PC, Xbox, PS all separate.
I didn’t say there was, in ‘19 I simply stated that EA had developed the technology and that it wouldn’t be impossible for SDS to implement it if they wanted to through patent licensing. We can all argue about it until we are blue in the face but the fact remains the tech is out there and SDS has implemented dynamic difficulty in their games, whether its creeped to the online portion of it is only for them to know.
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Competition will raise the stakes and improve the game. I’m all for ea or any other developer to make another MLB game. It would benefit all of us.
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@savefarris_psn said in Should The Show Have Remained PSN Exclusive?:
I remember. @Victor_SDS_PSN said I was “basically correct” and that you were 100% wrong.
It was a pretty good day.
I remember him preaching there was no DDA in the game which was completely out of touch with the topic, I said it was quite possible for them to acquire the tech through a patent license, you being the pretentious pr*ck that you are claimed it would be impossible, all the while playing a game that uses licensing. Just like you are wrong about your little competition speech. A) it’s not Econ 101 its Business and Marketing and B) what was being discussed was the implementation of a direct competitor which you only mention one possible direct competitor. Replacement competition (which is about half of the competition you named)doesn’t nearly have as big an impact on product development as a direct competitor. You might know that if you went through more than Econ 101 at a community college.
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No cuz then I never would've been able to enjoy this legendary game! people complaining about an online video game being quirky every blue moon are irrational whiners!
