Lack of competition = Lack of innovation
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It should be noted that developers do not have free reign to do whatever they want. They're constrained by higher ups...corporate/marketing types.
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@mistergraavy_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
Not to be a [censored] to the devs, but come on maaaan. This game just needs a fresh overhaul. Very stale. No bs I legit can't even tell the difference in the games trailers the last 4ish years.
This may be the first one I legit pass on, or just wait till late season when it's dirt cheap if we even get one
This is the first year they really worked on small details. Not to mention the game looks incredible on PS5 in 4k
What small details and how do you know it to be true?
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@greedyg103_xbl said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@mistergraavy_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
Not to be a [censored] to the devs, but come on maaaan. This game just needs a fresh overhaul. Very stale. No bs I legit can't even tell the difference in the games trailers the last 4ish years.
This may be the first one I legit pass on, or just wait till late season when it's dirt cheap if we even get one
This is the first year they really worked on small details. Not to mention the game looks incredible on PS5 in 4k
Just smooth clay like skin!
Thats just how I prefer my men.
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@rosco-1up_xbl said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@mistergraavy_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
Not to be a [censored] to the devs, but come on maaaan. This game just needs a fresh overhaul. Very stale. No bs I legit can't even tell the difference in the games trailers the last 4ish years.
This may be the first one I legit pass on, or just wait till late season when it's dirt cheap if we even get one
This is the first year they really worked on small details. Not to mention the game looks incredible on PS5 in 4k
What small details and how do you know it to be true?
Well the diving animations are vastly improved a lot of the idle animations are improved they've done a good job with stances and all sorts of those little kind of things and I guess I know because I played the tech test
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@greedyg103_xbl said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@mistergraavy_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
Not to be a [censored] to the devs, but come on maaaan. This game just needs a fresh overhaul. Very stale. No bs I legit can't even tell the difference in the games trailers the last 4ish years.
This may be the first one I legit pass on, or just wait till late season when it's dirt cheap if we even get one
This is the first year they really worked on small details. Not to mention the game looks incredible on PS5 in 4k
Incredible? Those player models are pretty bad. And the players have no rigidity at all. Just smooth clay like skin!
lol exactly
i was expecting a nice update with the PS5 being out for a couple years now
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@thehungryhole said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@greedyg103_xbl said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@mistergraavy_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
Not to be a [censored] to the devs, but come on maaaan. This game just needs a fresh overhaul. Very stale. No bs I legit can't even tell the difference in the games trailers the last 4ish years.
This may be the first one I legit pass on, or just wait till late season when it's dirt cheap if we even get one
This is the first year they really worked on small details. Not to mention the game looks incredible on PS5 in 4k
Incredible? Those player models are pretty bad. And the players have no rigidity at all. Just smooth clay like skin!
lol exactly
i was expecting a nice update with the PS5 being out for a couple years now
I honestly don’t see much happening in terms of updates to the game until they stop making the game for PS4 and Xbox One. Maybe then there will be a major overhaul.
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@raylewissb47_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@thehungryhole said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@greedyg103_xbl said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@mistergraavy_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
Not to be a [censored] to the devs, but come on maaaan. This game just needs a fresh overhaul. Very stale. No bs I legit can't even tell the difference in the games trailers the last 4ish years.
This may be the first one I legit pass on, or just wait till late season when it's dirt cheap if we even get one
This is the first year they really worked on small details. Not to mention the game looks incredible on PS5 in 4k
Incredible? Those player models are pretty bad. And the players have no rigidity at all. Just smooth clay like skin!
lol exactly
i was expecting a nice update with the PS5 being out for a couple years now
I honestly don’t see much happening in terms of updates to the game until they stop making the game for PS4 and Xbox One. Maybe then there will be a major overhaul.
Madden, 2K, Fifa, and NHL all have overhauled their graphics all while remaining on old gen systems. Also when the Show went to PS4 there was a large leap in graphics all while (you guessed it) still making the game on PS3. That is not what’s holding them back.
They probably won’t ditch the PS4 for a couple more years. Meaning we would have been in the Current Gen (Next Gen) for about 4 years. That is an unacceptable timeframe to experience a jump in graphics when the character models look 10 years old sir. And all the other games have simplr things like hair physics. Why must us baseball fans be treated like peasants ?
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Arcade baseball games are not in competition with sim baseball games. SDS has no competition. If you think so, you are not old enough to remember what it was like 18-20 years ago.
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@rosco-1up_xbl said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
You're looking at wrong. It's not that the devs don't work. In fact they're probably being taking advantage of, and being nickled and dimed.
The fact is, there is no need for a company to invest its earnings into making a better product when dummies will poor money into the one they already have. The game has been broken and unfixed for how long? and the dummies dump millions into it for virtual nothingness. They;re taking advantage of human FOMO. Fear of Missing Out. I'm not sure the problem will ever go away. People are stupid. Sports gaming is dead. It's just a racket now.
100% agree
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@nflman2033_mlbts said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
Arcade baseball games are not in competition with sim baseball games. SDS has no competition. If you think so, you are not old enough to remember what it was like 18-20 years ago.
Lol SMB3 is hardly arcade
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@greedyg103_xbl said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@raylewissb47_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@thehungryhole said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@greedyg103_xbl said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@mistergraavy_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
Not to be a [censored] to the devs, but come on maaaan. This game just needs a fresh overhaul. Very stale. No bs I legit can't even tell the difference in the games trailers the last 4ish years.
This may be the first one I legit pass on, or just wait till late season when it's dirt cheap if we even get one
This is the first year they really worked on small details. Not to mention the game looks incredible on PS5 in 4k
Incredible? Those player models are pretty bad. And the players have no rigidity at all. Just smooth clay like skin!
lol exactly
i was expecting a nice update with the PS5 being out for a couple years now
I honestly don’t see much happening in terms of updates to the game until they stop making the game for PS4 and Xbox One. Maybe then there will be a major overhaul.
Madden, 2K, Fifa, and NHL all have overhauled their graphics all while remaining on old gen systems. Also when the Show went to PS4 there was a large leap in graphics all while (you guessed it) still making the game on PS3. That is not what’s holding them back.
They probably won’t ditch the PS4 for a couple more years. Meaning we would have been in the Current Gen (Next Gen) for about 4 years. That is an unacceptable timeframe to experience a jump in graphics when the character models look 10 years old sir. And all the other games have simplr things like hair physics. Why must us baseball fans be treated like peasants ?
Also have studios ten times the size of SDS wake up
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@hustlinowl_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@greedyg103_xbl said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@raylewissb47_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@thehungryhole said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@greedyg103_xbl said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@mistergraavy_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
Not to be a [censored] to the devs, but come on maaaan. This game just needs a fresh overhaul. Very stale. No bs I legit can't even tell the difference in the games trailers the last 4ish years.
This may be the first one I legit pass on, or just wait till late season when it's dirt cheap if we even get one
This is the first year they really worked on small details. Not to mention the game looks incredible on PS5 in 4k
Incredible? Those player models are pretty bad. And the players have no rigidity at all. Just smooth clay like skin!
lol exactly
i was expecting a nice update with the PS5 being out for a couple years now
I honestly don’t see much happening in terms of updates to the game until they stop making the game for PS4 and Xbox One. Maybe then there will be a major overhaul.
Madden, 2K, Fifa, and NHL all have overhauled their graphics all while remaining on old gen systems. Also when the Show went to PS4 there was a large leap in graphics all while (you guessed it) still making the game on PS3. That is not what’s holding them back.
They probably won’t ditch the PS4 for a couple more years. Meaning we would have been in the Current Gen (Next Gen) for about 4 years. That is an unacceptable timeframe to experience a jump in graphics when the character models look 10 years old sir. And all the other games have simple things like hair physics. Why must us baseball fans be treated like peasants ?
Also have studios ten times the size of SDS wake up
SDS improved graphics year one of the PS4 while still supporting PS3. Wake up! Stop acting like this isn’t possible.
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@hustlinowl_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
Lol SMB3 is hardly arcade
I beg to differ.
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@savefarris_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@hustlinowl_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
Lol SMB3 is hardly arcade
I beg to differ.
what a great nostalgic memory seeing this artwork
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@hustlinowl_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@nflman2033_mlbts said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
Arcade baseball games are not in competition with sim baseball games. SDS has no competition. If you think so, you are not old enough to remember what it was like 18-20 years ago.
Lol SMB3 is hardly arcade
Maybe, but its hardly what I would call competition for the baseball sim market.
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@greedyg103_xbl said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@hustlinowl_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@greedyg103_xbl said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@raylewissb47_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@thehungryhole said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@greedyg103_xbl said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@mistergraavy_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
Not to be a [censored] to the devs, but come on maaaan. This game just needs a fresh overhaul. Very stale. No bs I legit can't even tell the difference in the games trailers the last 4ish years.
This may be the first one I legit pass on, or just wait till late season when it's dirt cheap if we even get one
This is the first year they really worked on small details. Not to mention the game looks incredible on PS5 in 4k
Incredible? Those player models are pretty bad. And the players have no rigidity at all. Just smooth clay like skin!
lol exactly
i was expecting a nice update with the PS5 being out for a couple years now
I honestly don’t see much happening in terms of updates to the game until they stop making the game for PS4 and Xbox One. Maybe then there will be a major overhaul.
Madden, 2K, Fifa, and NHL all have overhauled their graphics all while remaining on old gen systems. Also when the Show went to PS4 there was a large leap in graphics all while (you guessed it) still making the game on PS3. That is not what’s holding them back.
They probably won’t ditch the PS4 for a couple more years. Meaning we would have been in the Current Gen (Next Gen) for about 4 years. That is an unacceptable timeframe to experience a jump in graphics when the character models look 10 years old sir. And all the other games have simple things like hair physics. Why must us baseball fans be treated like peasants ?
Also have studios ten times the size of SDS wake up
SDS improved graphics year one of the PS4 while still supporting PS3. Wake up! Stop acting like this isn’t possible.
smh supporting a single console wake up
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@surfinsantacruz_xbl said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
They do have competition - at least on gamepass. Another baseball game released on gamepass today. I will not mention the name as it's a competitor but , they do have competition.
I'll say it, since SMB3 is not a competitor. It's an arcade version of baseball with sim elements, but The Show does not have a competitor in the console baseball sim space, period.
Unless OOTP decides to enter the console space, then maybe a conversation can be had about competition
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@greedyg103_xbl said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@hustlinowl_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@greedyg103_xbl said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@raylewissb47_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@thehungryhole said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@greedyg103_xbl said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@mistergraavy_psn said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
@doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in Lack of competition = Lack of innovation:
Not to be a [censored] to the devs, but come on maaaan. This game just needs a fresh overhaul. Very stale. No bs I legit can't even tell the difference in the games trailers the last 4ish years.
This may be the first one I legit pass on, or just wait till late season when it's dirt cheap if we even get one
This is the first year they really worked on small details. Not to mention the game looks incredible on PS5 in 4k
Incredible? Those player models are pretty bad. And the players have no rigidity at all. Just smooth clay like skin!
lol exactly
i was expecting a nice update with the PS5 being out for a couple years now
I honestly don’t see much happening in terms of updates to the game until they stop making the game for PS4 and Xbox One. Maybe then there will be a major overhaul.
Madden, 2K, Fifa, and NHL all have overhauled their graphics all while remaining on old gen systems. Also when the Show went to PS4 there was a large leap in graphics all while (you guessed it) still making the game on PS3. That is not what’s holding them back.
They probably won’t ditch the PS4 for a couple more years. Meaning we would have been in the Current Gen (Next Gen) for about 4 years. That is an unacceptable timeframe to experience a jump in graphics when the character models look 10 years old sir. And all the other games have simple things like hair physics. Why must us baseball fans be treated like peasants ?
Also have studios ten times the size of SDS wake up
SDS improved graphics year one of the PS4 while still supporting PS3. Wake up! Stop acting like this isn’t possible.
Disagree with this take. Literally every sports game at the tail end of a generation is usually night and day from its version at the start. Go back and play MLB The Show 14, then play The Show 21.
SDS as long as they've worked on The Show have never done any bold visual changes in a single year because you don't do drastic changes as a sports sim, that's not how it works. OOTP doesn't do drastic overhauls either, and that's their closest competitor that also puts out a new game every year.
Here's some links I gathered to kind of show you the progression of the game visually through last gen, and maybe because people buy it every year they don't necessarily notice things but if you take gap years between games maybe things stand out more:
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MLB 14 was a performance bump on PS4 but the visuals didn't change much outside of improvements to textures and lighting. This is fine for the first game on PS4. The only next-gen feature with this version was being able to transfer career mode saves from PS3 to PS4.
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MLB 15 started including dynamic lighting and improved stadium models
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MLB 17 to my knowledge was the first big visual overhaul since they specifically mentioned in the feature reveals for that launch that they had implemented better mocap, newer lighting and shaders after ditching legacy PS3 code. They even mention that it was a three year project for the studio to work on before deciding it was ready. I want to say that MLB 17 is essentially what you can consider to be the modern day version of MLB The Show that the team's been iterating on steadily with visuals from '18-'21, whether that's better lighting, shading, presentations, etc.
I just think the studio going third party with MLB and putting out games on Switch and XBOX really warped everybody's expectations because they've traditionally only put their games out on Sony consoles. I'm not expecting a 4K version of Aaron Judge with raytraced lighting at Yankee Stadium as part of the second iteration of The Show on a next-gen console, but I would definitely expect them to steadily leverage next gen hardware in a way that strengthens the engine they are already using year over year until they stop working on a last-gen version of The Show.
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