The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?
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@savefarris_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
At the end of the day I think we see a salary cap. It saved the NHL, it can save Baseball.
Baseball doesn’t need saving.
Within the last decade, a bottom 5 revenue team won the World Series and the Yankees won zero.
I thought there was a salary cap but the Yankees are so rich they can pay off the fees
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Yeah looking back several years no team has won the WS with a less than league average payroll.
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@jtownelite_x814x_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
Wouldn't SDS have to set up a contract with Fanatics?
only if their current deal with Topps was expiring this offseason which I don't think is the case. Fanatics purchasing the company doesn't change the contract, it just transfers over.
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@ikasnu_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
Yeah looking back several years no team has won the WS with a less than league average payroll.
7/10 of the teams in the last 5 World Series have been top 8 in payroll on opening day. I agree with you, it's more weighted toward the elites than something resembling parity.
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It's still January and still cold in most states. Maybe everyone is just frozen in place and can't do anything atm.
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@thegoaler_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
It's still January and still cold in most states. Maybe everyone is just frozen in place and can't do anything atm.
My alternate theory is that Rob Manfred can't stop smelling his own farts. So he decided to shove his head up his own [censored] and can't figure out how to undo the situation. [censored] Monfort showed up to help, but instead also lodged his head up Robs [censored]. [censored] Monfort then decided nepotism was the way.
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After the free agent frenzy early on and then silence due to the strike makes me think of that scene in Spartacus. After forcing his fight with Crixus and just getting demolished Batiatus is screaming at Spartacus " You had the crowd! "
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I, for one, was around in ‘94 the last time this happened. If you guys don’t think the owners are willing to let this carry on into the season in order to get the player’s association to agree to their terms, I urge you to remember the Montreal Expos had the best record in baseball by a mile that year and never got a chance to go to the postseason.
In other words, I don’t think the owners care, and Mr. Manfred’s actions seem to reflect that. It’s very sad.
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@savefarris_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
At the end of the day I think we see a salary cap. It saved the NHL, it can save Baseball.
Baseball doesn’t need saving.
Within the last decade, a bottom 5 revenue team won the World Series and the Yankees won zero.
Royals? Just my guess. I think baseball has it's issues but I agree, it doesn't need saving, just some attention.
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The man with half an asss speaks truth.
Also Royals were at 122m. About league average. You have to go back to 2003 to find a team with a bottom 5 payroll and that was the Marlins.
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He was probably referencing the Rays who made the WS 2 years ago and didn’t win as a bottom 5 payroll team
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@halfbutt_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
I, for one, was around in ‘94 the last time this happened. If you guys don’t think the owners are willing to let this carry on into the season in order to get the player’s association to agree to their terms, I urge you to remember the Montreal Expos had the best record in baseball by a mile that year and never got a chance to go to the postseason.
In other words, I don’t think the owners care, and Mr. Manfred’s actions seem to reflect that. It’s very sad.
I feel like the owners are against Manfred primarily because he made all those rule changes in 2020. I'm sure there were things said between him and the owners that made negotiations to begin the season that year fall apart until July. Pitchers don't like him because of the sticky crackdown and the juiced baseballs. Atlanta, I'm sure, doesn't like him because of all the money the city lost from the All-Star game. I don't really know the minds of the owners, but I don't like Manfred at all, and I believe that the owners don't like him either.
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@ikasnu_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
The man with half an asss speaks truth.
Also Royals were at 122m. About league average. You have to go back to 2003 to find a team with a bottom 5 payroll and that was the Marlins.
Revenues != Payroll
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@savefarris_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
@ikasnu_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
The man with half an asss speaks truth.
Also Royals were at 122m. About league average. You have to go back to 2003 to find a team with a bottom 5 payroll and that was the Marlins.
Revenues != Payroll
I don't know what != means...
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@ikasnu_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
@savefarris_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
@ikasnu_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
The man with half an asss speaks truth.
Also Royals were at 122m. About league average. You have to go back to 2003 to find a team with a bottom 5 payroll and that was the Marlins.
Revenues != Payroll
I don't know what != means...
Math, dude. Does not equal.
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@dcmo3_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
@ikasnu_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
@savefarris_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
@ikasnu_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
The man with half an asss speaks truth.
Also Royals were at 122m. About league average. You have to go back to 2003 to find a team with a bottom 5 payroll and that was the Marlins.
Revenues != Payroll
I don't know what != means...
Math, dude. Does not equal.
I'm a stooge not a mathematician.
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Supposedly they are supposed to be meeting soon. I always side with the players in these arguments. As much as people like to throw shade at athletes for making X amount of money for playing a game while the owners make significantly more while the athletes are out there doing the work and risking their bodies.
As much as I have been against the DH in the NL at this point I think it might be best for the players. Extend guys careers, add more teams to lists of suitors for guys without a position etc.
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I am not sure that I side with either side honestly. I mean I will side with the minor leaguers somewhat but Otherwise, with the minimum MLB salary over a half a million dollars, it is just the rich vs the richer.
If the players get more and the owners get less of the overall pie then the owners will just raise ticket prices and concession prices, making attending a ballgame even more of a luxury for an average family. The real losers in all of this will most likely be the fans.
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@dolenz_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
I am not sure that I side with either side honestly. I mean I will side with the minor leaguers somewhat but Otherwise, with the minimum MLB salary over a half a million dollars, it is just the rich vs the richer.
If the players get more and the owners get less of the overall pie then the owners will just raise ticket prices and concession prices, making attending a ballgame even more of a luxury for an average family. The real losers in all of this will most likely be the fans.
Fans are always the losers in these lol
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@ikasnu_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
@savefarris_psn said in The Lockout: Are They Even Trying?:
At the end of the day I think we see a salary cap. It saved the NHL, it can save Baseball.
Baseball doesn’t need saving.
Within the last decade, a bottom 5 revenue team won the World Series and the Yankees won zero.
Wait which team was bottom 5?
Kansas City maybe. That's a guess on my part
